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Quote:Justice Alfred Mabeya of the High Court ruled that the land rightfully belonged to Afrison Export & Import Ltd and Huelands Ltd and ordered that the owners be compensated Sh4,086,633,330.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Also the land has never been subdivided. When one subdivides land, he or she surrenders the mother title and new titles are issued for the new plots. This never happened. So the govt can't claim that the land was subdivided and it was given 10% to build schools because no subdivision has ever taken place.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:Could someone explain to those of us with simple minds how the land ownership was transferred from the Official receiver to Mr Mburu? That's where it's all murky. The commissioner of lands clearly stated these properties were liquidated with KPTC making payments for the land. The 2012 ruling could reveal more I will peruse the Kenya Law Reports to read it later Pure Thuggery how the plot changed to LR No.7879/24 containing 37.4 acres yet the land was not sub-divided.... Below find the link to Mabeya's ruling http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/87075
Even thuggery requires a little intelligence 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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wukan wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:Could someone explain to those of us with simple minds how the land ownership was transferred from the Official receiver to Mr Mburu? That's where it's all murky. The commissioner of lands clearly stated these properties were liquidated with KPTC making payments for the land. The 2012 ruling could reveal more I will peruse the Kenya Law Reports to read it later Pure Thuggery how the plot changed to LR No.7879/24 containing 37.4 acres yet the land was not sub-divided.... Below find the link to Mabeya's ruling http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/87075
Even thuggery requires a little intelligence The ruling concerns the houses. That was sorted a long time ago. The issue at hand is the schools and compensation for the 13.7 acres. Don't mix issues. Awinjo?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:wukan wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:Could someone explain to those of us with simple minds how the land ownership was transferred from the Official receiver to Mr Mburu? That's where it's all murky. The commissioner of lands clearly stated these properties were liquidated with KPTC making payments for the land. The 2012 ruling could reveal more I will peruse the Kenya Law Reports to read it later Pure Thuggery how the plot changed to LR No.7879/24 containing 37.4 acres yet the land was not sub-divided.... Below find the link to Mabeya's ruling http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/87075
Even thuggery requires a little intelligence The ruling concerns the houses. That was sorted a long time ago. The issue at hand is the schools and compensation for the 13.7 acres. Don't mix issues. Awinjo? At no time did Mburu subdivide the 13.7 acres. It was all one parcel of 96 acres. If he subdivided it, show us that documentation. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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hardwood wrote:wukan wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:Could someone explain to those of us with simple minds how the land ownership was transferred from the Official receiver to Mr Mburu? That's where it's all murky. The commissioner of lands clearly stated these properties were liquidated with KPTC making payments for the land. The 2012 ruling could reveal more I will peruse the Kenya Law Reports to read it later Pure Thuggery how the plot changed to LR No.7879/24 containing 37.4 acres yet the land was not sub-divided.... Below find the link to Mabeya's ruling http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/87075
Even thuggery requires a little intelligence The ruling concerns the houses. That was sorted a long time ago. The issue at hand is the schools and compensation for the 13.7 acres. Don't mix issues. Awinjo? Awinjo danganya toto jinga....mixing issues is how this thuggery was done. Your buddy Mburu said the following when seeking anticipatory bail Quote:The application was supported by affidavits sworn by the 1st and 4th Applicants. The 1st Applicant deponed that he was a shareholder and director of Afrison Export Limited and Hueland Limited which on 24th September, 2014 filed suit number HCCC 617 of 2012 against the office of the Attorney General pursuant to loss of portions of the property known as L.R. 7879/4 to the State. That by a judgment delivered on 12th February, 2013 the court awarded the companies Kshs. 4,086,683,330/- as compensation for the claim plus costs. However, on 18th March, 2013 after a meeting with the Attorney General a settlement fee of Kshs. 2,400,000,000/- was agreed upon and a consent recorded on 8th April, 2013. Quote:He swore that the 2nd Respondent started investigations into allegations that the Applicants, as directors of Afrison Import Export Limited and Hueland Limited, in collusion with officials from the National Land Commission(NLC) and other public officials fraudulently awarded compensation in the sum of Kshs.3,269,040,600/- as compensation for the compulsory acquisition of a portion of land reference L.R. No. 7879/4, a portion of land that had previously been surrendered to the public and belonging to Ruaraka High School and Drive-In Primary School. That the preliminary investigations had revealed that the said parcel of land was divided in 1983, upon application by the owners, on the condition that they surrender a part of the land in question to the Government free of charge for use as public utilities.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:wukan wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:Could someone explain to those of us with simple minds how the land ownership was transferred from the Official receiver to Mr Mburu? That's where it's all murky. The commissioner of lands clearly stated these properties were liquidated with KPTC making payments for the land. The 2012 ruling could reveal more I will peruse the Kenya Law Reports to read it later Pure Thuggery how the plot changed to LR No.7879/24 containing 37.4 acres yet the land was not sub-divided.... Below find the link to Mabeya's ruling http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/87075
Even thuggery requires a little intelligence The ruling concerns the houses. That was sorted a long time ago. The issue at hand is the schools and compensation for the 13.7 acres. Don't mix issues. Awinjo? Awinjo danganya toto jinga....mixing issues is how this thuggery was done. Your buddy Mburu said the following when seeking anticipatory bail Quote:The application was supported by affidavits sworn by the 1st and 4th Applicants. The 1st Applicant deponed that he was a shareholder and director of Afrison Export Limited and Hueland Limited which on 24th September, 2014 filed suit number HCCC 617 of 2012 against the office of the Attorney General pursuant to loss of portions of the property known as L.R. 7879/4 to the State. That by a judgment delivered on 12th February, 2013 the court awarded the companies Kshs. 4,086,683,330/- as compensation for the claim plus costs. However, on 18th March, 2013 after a meeting with the Attorney General a settlement fee of Kshs. 2,400,000,000/- was agreed upon and a consent recorded on 8th April, 2013. Quote:He swore that the 2nd Respondent started investigations into allegations that the Applicants, as directors of Afrison Import Export Limited and Hueland Limited, in collusion with officials from the National Land Commission(NLC) and other public officials fraudulently awarded compensation in the sum of Kshs.3,269,040,600/- as compensation for the compulsory acquisition of a portion of land reference L.R. No. 7879/4, a portion of land that had previously been surrendered to the public and belonging to Ruaraka High School and Drive-In Primary School. That the preliminary investigations had revealed that the said parcel of land was divided in 1983, upon application by the owners, on the condition that they surrender a part of the land in question to the Government free of charge for use as public utilities. The heart of the matter lies here: 10% of 96 acres = 9.6 acres NOT 13.7 acres that was "grabbed" by govt.
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hardwood wrote:Also the land has never been subdivided. When one subdivides land, he or she surrenders the mother title and new titles are issued for the new plots. This never happened. So the govt can't claim that the land was subdivided and it was given 10% to build schools because no subdivision has ever taken place. Now @hardwood, lets ignore the school land for now. Mburu has been paid by KURA not once but thrice for land that he had already sold. Same crook filed a case against government over the chief's camp claiming they were sitting illegaly on his 4 acres. Actual situation on the ground is eighth of an acre. Why do you want us to believe that on the sub-division issue, Mburu is now telling the truth ? Justice Mabeya was taken care of by Brian Yongo. Its shocking the JSC hasn't taken interest in pursuing the matter further.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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FRM2011 wrote:hardwood wrote:Also the land has never been subdivided. When one subdivides land, he or she surrenders the mother title and new titles are issued for the new plots. This never happened. So the govt can't claim that the land was subdivided and it was given 10% to build schools because no subdivision has ever taken place. Now @hardwood, lets ignore the school land for now. Mburu has been paid by KURA not once but thrice for land that he had already sold. Same crook filed a case against government over the chief's camp claiming they were sitting illegaly on his 4 acres. Actual situation on the ground is eighth of an acre.Why do you want us to believe that on the sub-division issue, Mburu is now telling the truth ? Justice Mabeya was taken care of by Brian Yongo. Its shocking the JSC hasn't taken interest in pursuing the matter further. Just because my 5 bdrm storied house's footprint on my plot is 300m2 doesn't mean my plot as per the title deed is 300m2. The plot is much bigger than area occupied by the house. Infact the plot as per the title deed is nearly 10 times bigger, actually 2024m2 (half acre). It's the same case with the chiefs office. Just because the chiefs office and choo occupy 1/8 acre doesn't mean that the chief doesnt use the surrounding 4 acres for govt business eg to hold barazas, park govt vehicles, huduma centre, recruitment for armed forces, polio vaccinations, harambees, govt tree nursery etc etc. Also how do you expect the chief, being the representative of the president on the ground, to read the president's speech to ruaraka residents on jamhuri day on a 1/8 plot? Can all those thousands in ruaraka and mathare north fit on an 1/8 plot? Infact the govt should acquire more of the land, now that it is available, for future planning and development.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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FRM2011 wrote:hardwood wrote:Also the land has never been subdivided. When one subdivides land, he or she surrenders the mother title and new titles are issued for the new plots. This never happened. So the govt can't claim that the land was subdivided and it was given 10% to build schools because no subdivision has ever taken place. Now @hardwood, lets ignore the school land for now. Mburu has been paid by KURA not once but thrice for land that he had already sold. Same crook filed a case against government over the chief's camp claiming they were sitting illegaly on his 4 acres. Actual situation on the ground is eighth of an acre. Why do you want us to believe that on the sub-division issue, Mburu is now telling the truth ? Justice Mabeya was taken care of by Brian Yongo. Its shocking the JSC hasn't taken interest in pursuing the matter further. He only sold those houses that are behind Barclays bank not the whole land i.e occupying 17.8 acres out of 96 acres. Otherwise that land fronting outering rd is still his and that is why he was compensated. Outering road was curved out of his land and then has been expanded twice taking more of his land. That is why he was paid thrice because on all occasions the govt took his land.
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hardwood wrote:FRM2011 wrote:hardwood wrote:Also the land has never been subdivided. When one subdivides land, he or she surrenders the mother title and new titles are issued for the new plots. This never happened. So the govt can't claim that the land was subdivided and it was given 10% to build schools because no subdivision has ever taken place. Now @hardwood, lets ignore the school land for now. Mburu has been paid by KURA not once but thrice for land that he had already sold. Same crook filed a case against government over the chief's camp claiming they were sitting illegaly on his 4 acres. Actual situation on the ground is eighth of an acre. Why do you want us to believe that on the sub-division issue, Mburu is now telling the truth ? Justice Mabeya was taken care of by Brian Yongo. Its shocking the JSC hasn't taken interest in pursuing the matter further. He only sold those houses that are behind Barclays bank not the whole land i.e occupying 17.8 acres out of 96 acres. Otherwise that land fronting outering rd is still his and that is why he was compensated. Outering road was built and then has been expanded twice. That is why he was paid thrice because on all occasions the govt took his land. Bugger is a billionaire why is he stressing himself. At 60++++ he should be enjoying his wealth coz where he is going is nearer where he has come from!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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These are the questions we are asking here. But it is clear there is some serious record tampering https://www.the-star.co....llion-land-deal_c1792711"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:hardwood wrote:FRM2011 wrote:hardwood wrote:Also the land has never been subdivided. When one subdivides land, he or she surrenders the mother title and new titles are issued for the new plots. This never happened. So the govt can't claim that the land was subdivided and it was given 10% to build schools because no subdivision has ever taken place. Now @hardwood, lets ignore the school land for now. Mburu has been paid by KURA not once but thrice for land that he had already sold. Same crook filed a case against government over the chief's camp claiming they were sitting illegaly on his 4 acres. Actual situation on the ground is eighth of an acre. Why do you want us to believe that on the sub-division issue, Mburu is now telling the truth ? Justice Mabeya was taken care of by Brian Yongo. Its shocking the JSC hasn't taken interest in pursuing the matter further. He only sold those houses that are behind Barclays bank not the whole land i.e occupying 17.8 acres out of 96 acres. Otherwise that land fronting outering rd is still his and that is why he was compensated. Outering road was built and then has been expanded twice. That is why he was paid thrice because on all occasions the govt took his land. Bugger is a billionaire why is he stressing himself. At 60++++ he should be enjoying his wealth coz where he is going is nearer where he has come from!!! He has children and grandchildren to think about. He cares about his offspring unlike many men who just live for the day. Also if you own land whether in ushago or nairobi no one should take even an inch of it without your consent, especially when it is the govt taking your land. You have seen how wananchi protest all over the country demanding compensation before govt embarks on any project on their land eg sgr, roads, dams, Kinangop wind power, Lappset etc. At least Mburu is a gentleman who allowed govt to use his land for 30yrs mpaka he got tired of waiting for compensation and that is why he went to court.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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This thread is becoming a monologue! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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kaka2za wrote:This thread is becoming a monologue! Facts are facts and should be stated for the whole world to see whether in a monologue, dialogue or 'polylogue'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Citizen News @9. Swazuri says Mburu should be paid. The balance should be paid ASAP.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Kwani Mburu amekula mbuzi ya nani? Infact its GK and wanjiku wamekula mbuzi ya Mburu. And they must pay for that mbuzi.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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The DPP has confirmed he has a case. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:The DPP has confirmed he has a case. And Robert Nesta sung.. You can fool some people sometimes, But you can't fool all the people all the time. So now we see the light (What you gonna do?), We gonna stand up for our rights! (Yeah, yeah, yeah!) Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:The DPP has confirmed he has a case. And Robert Nesta sung.. You can fool some people sometimes, But you can't fool all the people all the time. So now we see the light (What you gonna do?), We gonna stand up for our rights! (Yeah, yeah, yeah!) The courts (judiciary) have already ruled the land is private. The parliamentary committee (legislature) has ruled the land is private. The NLc (executive) has ruled the land is private. Even hardwood (wanjiku) agrees that the land is private. So huyu DiPiPi anataka nini? Does he have evidence from mars?
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