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Equity bank collapse: Impact...
Tusker Baridi
#61 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 4:32:00 AM
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Sawa Mukiha.
Wendz
#62 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 10:57:00 AM
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mmmmmh.... yaaani,even a post in investment section has 'tribalism' in it?

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Tycoon!
#63 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 11:52:00 AM
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@ Mainat,cheers for the PDF on Equity i have skimmed a quickie n its looks like a good read.

@ Mukiha the facts you bring out are very enlightening. am sure many guys here are shareholders and customers and no one would like to lose their money.

@ TB congratulations on choosing not to become a kikuyu or kaleo before u were born but u made the wise choice of becoming watever tribe u r. Those who chose to be these tribes am sure are damn in ur eyes...shame on them!! n thanks for warning us albeit without facts

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tony stark
#64 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 12:21:00 PM
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@ All,the unfashionable bashing of TB trying to put his point across is nonsense,he raised a valid point. Mwangi was a director in a failed bank? Non of the pro equity responders have challenged that point. That is one of the pillars of his arguments that the board can not be trusted because the ceo was a thief and like most economic criminals in kenya they are repeat offenders because there is no repurcussion.

@ Muhika,njunge and other investors of old. Please repond to that point!

@ MainaT ...... Proof is a concept that does not exist in kenya. Association should be enough evidence of guilt when it comes to economic crimes in kenya,case in point ... Who is guilty in goldenberg??

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mukiha
#65 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:26:00 PM
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@Tony Stark:

Here are some excerpts from 'Understanding the Re-birth of Equity Building Society in Kenya',by Gerhard Coetzee,Kamau Kabbucho & Andrew Mnjama,on behalf of Microsave [2002]:

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'When we asked Equity stakeholders to identify the key factors that have led to the success of the institution,.....both management and staff trace the start of the turnaround to the self-awareness and management skills training provided by the two consultants,James Mwangi and Nancy Nyambici,in 1993/94.'

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'The CBK rating report of December 1993 stated that Equity was technically insolvent.....The CBK did not request the closure of Equity as the Central Bank was merely the inspection function,and only the Registrar of Building Societies had the power to close the institution. It was argued that since there were no complaints from clients,Equity should be given the chance to turn around.'

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'During the Board meeting called to discuss the CBK inspection report in April 1992,the three directors developed an action plan that included injection of capital.....James Mwangi,through his contacts with the CEO,deposited Ksh 3,4 million with Equity and an additional Ksh 4 million from his associates,which saved the building society from eminent collapse due to cash flow problems.'

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So now we know that JM put in sh4m and not the sh200m brandished around here! And,oh yes he was senior Finance Manager at Trade Bank; not a Director...perhaps now we should ask where he got the sh4m from......

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tony stark
#66 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 7:39:00 PM
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@ Muhika ..... Thanks! Fears laid to rest!

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tuthaligo
#67 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:09:00 PM
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sahau sahau
MAINAH
#68 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 8:35:00 AM
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i know will go under due the fact that these days their customer care services has gone down 120%,they have longest queue in the banking halls and ATM's.Few attendants,system breakdown every end month at the ATM's


MAINAH
mukiha
#69 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 8:59:00 AM
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@MAINAH
There is a difference between collapsing and reduced profitability.

The factors you have highlighted will result in reduced profitability,but not a collapse of the bank.

Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow)
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
PKoli
#70 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 9:12:00 AM
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I think the management of Equity has heard all the noise made and they obviously working on resolving the teething issues. I think the Ugandan branches will conrtibute possitively to their bottom line.

Anyone knows when they will announceQ1 results? Reason for the delay?


PKoli
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