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VituVingiSana
#471 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:23:33 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,351
Location: Nairobi
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
cyruskulei
#472 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 12:15:56 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/9/2010
Posts: 320
Location: kenya
VituVingiSana wrote:
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?



Lots of negative energy. Relax.
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

Fyatu
#473 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 12:34:04 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
Average demand for cement in East africa is about 10million metric tonnes vs installed capacity of < 20million metric tonnes. In Nigeria its about 90 million. Prior to 2017 cement demand in Kenya was growing at 10% y-t-y suggesting a modest demand of 20 million metric in 10 yrs.

Cement business is profitable and that is why if you stand on Mombasa road counting cars, you will now see shiny trailers branded Rai cement ferrying clinker to a new factory in rift valley(this was not the case 1 year ago). Further, Bamburi is increasing capacity in kenya and Uganda. Savannah, national cement(simba),Mombasa cement are increasing capacity. If you look at the number of tall buildings coming up in Westlands alone or count the number of mud-walled houses in Nyeri county(poverty is real in these parts despite the pride of these people) you will see that we are still a long way to go in terms of cement consumption.I have not even considered the 10,000 kilometers road annuity ,SGR,Turkana oil fields, LAPPSET etc.As they say, the best investment strategy when it comes to equities can be abbreviated BBC i.e., Beer, Bank and Cement
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
VituVingiSana
#474 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 12:39:06 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,351
Location: Nairobi
cyruskulei wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?


Lots of negative energy. Relax.
Sawa @ArapPaunrana Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Ni maswali tu. Answers are appreciated smile
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Fyatu
#475 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 12:50:00 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
VituVingiSana wrote:
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?


Please see these two links(below).

2018 numbers source East African


December 2017 numbers. Source construction Kenya

Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
cyruskulei
#476 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 2:02:01 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/9/2010
Posts: 320
Location: kenya
cyruskulei wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?



Lots of negative energy. Relax.


This counter has made people money very fast. If u bought last week @2.5 and say you managed to buy 100k shares, then now @3.65, just in a week u have made more than 100,000.00. Better than any other. The concept of buy low and sell high happens here and now.
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

Spikes
#477 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 3:25:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
cyruskulei wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?



Lots of negative energy. Relax.


This counter has made people money very fast. If u bought last week @2.5 and say you managed to buy 100k shares, then now @3.65, just in a week u have made more than 100,000.00. Better than any other. The concept of buy low and sell high happens here and now.


Rocket rally prophecy has come to pass overcrowding @Obiero's fear uncertainty and doubt aka FUD.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#478 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 3:28:59 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,229
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?



Lots of negative energy. Relax.


This counter has made people money very fast. If u bought last week @2.5 and say you managed to buy 100k shares, then now @3.65, just in a week u have made more than 100,000.00. Better than any other. The concept of buy low and sell high happens here and now.


Rocket rally prophecy has come to pass overcrowding @Obiero's fear uncertainty and doubt aka FUD.

Rocket indeed. I have seen the spike. All the best though, look closely at the volumes and remember there are many times the number of people who want to get out as those interested in coming in..

sparkly
#479 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 8:20:26 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?



Lots of negative energy. Relax.


This counter has made people money very fast. If u bought last week @2.5 and say you managed to buy 100k shares, then now @3.65, just in a week u have made more than 100,000.00. Better than any other. The concept of buy low and sell high happens here and now.


Rocket rally prophecy has come to pass overcrowding @Obiero's fear uncertainty and doubt aka FUD.

Rocket indeed. I have seen the spike. All the best though, look closely at the volumes and remember there are many times the number of people who want to get out as those interested in coming in..


@Obiero sell KQ and jump in before it's too late. This is the only share rising in a tanking market.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#480 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2018 10:53:44 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,351
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Juojo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Juojo wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
, @fyatu I saw the Atlas thread... Why repeat the same mistake? We have alot of Gems at the NSE... Companies like this are not worth it... That HFCK is Gonna explode after the rate cap is removed.... It's a nice contrarian play... Almost same industry as ARM Cement!


@deal Atlas proposition of chancho project was too good to ignore. However, as it turned out, those wazungus were outright criminals that exploited week elements at CMA. I invested in ARM after visiting their factory in Athi river and observing that operations were ongoing i.e., clinker was coming in aand ready mix concrete was coming out. I don't intend to add more shares but rather will hold and weather the storm...it is highly unlikely ARM will go the Atlas way. All indications are that all assets in Tanzania wil be sold and focus will be Kenya and Rwanda. Also CDC have initiated a turnaround thus the proverbial corner is not far off


Shame on you Shame on you ARM does not produce readymix concrete. You must have visited the wrong factory


So what do you call the product they are delivering HERE and other upcoming skyscrappers of Nairobi almost on a daily basis

https://twitter.com/RhinoCement/status/941646666762997760
#FakeNews Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Just kidding. I have no idea. I am following the saga coz it is fascinating!
Good luck!


Trust me. i have procured readymix in this market. They don't have a single readymix plant. They just sell cement to some guy who produces on their behalf. They are just a readymix broker who has a brand in the industry. Usidanganywe na posts za Shoshomedia

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
How does that work on a practical basis?
ARM supplies cement to another guy [who?] who then mixes in the extras and then sends it back to ARM?
Then ARM sells it to consumers?
Why can't ARM make their own readymix?
Who vouches for the quality?

ARM was the #3 cement when it listed firm but it has been eclipsed by others... ARM could have easily been #2 had it grown slowly and steadily.

What % market share do the various cement firms have in Kenya?



Lots of negative energy. Relax.


This counter has made people money very fast. If u bought last week @2.5 and say you managed to buy 100k shares, then now @3.65, just in a week u have made more than 100,000.00. Better than any other. The concept of buy low and sell high happens here and now.


Rocket rally prophecy has come to pass overcrowding @Obiero's fear uncertainty and doubt aka FUD.

Rocket indeed. I have seen the spike. All the best though, look closely at the volumes and remember there are many times the number of people who want to get out as those interested in coming in..

Isn't this the same philosophy/strategy you advocated for KQ?
The difference is that it actually happened in ARM vs KQ. Plus if @xxxxx is right then there's more to come for ARM over the next 12-18 months.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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