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Angelica _ann		#1201 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2018 3:17:22 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901		Ericsson wrote: Market has caught a cold Safcon has refused to go to 35 In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Spikes		#1202 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2018 3:49:45 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		Angelica _ann wrote: Ericsson wrote: Market has caught a cold Safcon has refused to go to 35 So that you can sell and wait a dip to accumulate more for generations to come. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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murchr		#1203 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2018 4:07:31 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979		Angelica _ann wrote: Ericsson wrote: Market has caught a cold Safcon has refused to go to 35 Will not happen until the trade war btn US and China cools off. Kila mtu anachunga mfuko. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Ericsson		#1204 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 11:21:12 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		Spikes wrote: Angelica _ann wrote: Ericsson wrote: Market has caught a cold Safcon has refused to go to 35 So that you can sell and wait a dip to accumulate more for generations to come. Resistance at 27. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Ericsson		#1205 Posted : Friday, June 29, 2018 8:48:47 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		First half of the year is over, How has the trading period being and portfolio compared to end of 2017 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero		#1206 Posted : Friday, June 29, 2018 10:02:23 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi		Ericsson wrote: First half of the year is over, How has the trading period being and portfolio compared to end of 2017 Terrible my brother HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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mulla		#1207 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2018 7:59:48 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301		obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: First half of the year is over, How has the trading period being and portfolio compared to end of 2017 Terrible my brother The bear at the NSE is still in hibernation...since 2015 I think. And the way things are looking it seems the bear is not yet ready to wake up from the slumber. Small traders and businesses are really struggling!!!
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obiero		#1208 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2018 10:36:43 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi		mulla wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: First half of the year is over, How has the trading period being and portfolio compared to end of 2017 Terrible my brother The bear at the NSE is still in hibernation...since 2015 I think. And the way things are looking it seems the bear is not yet ready to wake up from the slumber. Small traders and businesses are really struggling!!! Big businesses too.. Its a tragedy HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Ericsson		#1209 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2018 10:38:07 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		obiero wrote: mulla wrote: obiero wrote: Ericsson wrote: First half of the year is over, How has the trading period being and portfolio compared to end of 2017 Terrible my brother The bear at the NSE is still in hibernation...since 2015 I think. And the way things are looking it seems the bear is not yet ready to wake up from the slumber. Small traders and businesses are really struggling!!! Big businesses too.. Its a tragedy Lack of credit Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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wukan		#1210 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2018 12:49:27 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,568		Ericsson wrote: First half of the year is over, How has the trading period being and portfolio compared to end of 2017 It was a decent first half. My stallions Unga and Total did very well. Once NIC is the donkey in my portfolio
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mlennyma		#1211 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2018 3:23:54 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,175 Location: nairobi		https://www.kenya-today....ach-ruto-end-of-the-year "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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mlennyma		#1212 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2018 3:25:07 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,175 Location: nairobi		mlennyma wrote: https://www.kenya-today.com/politics/london-organization-leaks-plans-impeach-ruto-end-of-the-year it's not bad to share investor advice even if it won't happen "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Ericsson		#1213 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 8:36:42 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		Second half begins today. What are the projections Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Ericsson		#1214 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 8:37:47 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		mlennyma wrote: mlennyma wrote: https://www.kenya-today.com/politics/london-organization-leaks-plans-impeach-ruto-end-of-the-year it's not bad to share investor advice even if it won't happen Mentioning potential risks and threats is a good thing Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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VituVingiSana		#1215 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 12:42:28 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi		KenolKobil will make a profit ;-) Going by Ohana's optimism during the AGM, I would say EPS of 1.25 for 1H Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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wukan		#1216 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 12:44:51 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,568		Ericsson wrote: Second half begins today. What are the projections It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue. The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that. If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000
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VituVingiSana		#1217 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 1:07:23 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi		wukan wrote: Ericsson wrote: Second half begins today. What are the projections It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue. The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that. If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000 Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years. In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying. We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market. We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure. We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"... China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow. I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Ericsson		#1218 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 1:08:04 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		wukan wrote: Ericsson wrote: Second half begins today. What are the projections It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue. The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that. If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000 Dollar weakness not easy as long as FED keeps raising interest rates Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Ericsson		#1219 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 1:13:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI		VituVingiSana wrote: wukan wrote: Ericsson wrote: Second half begins today. What are the projections It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue. The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that. If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000 Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years. In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying. We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market. We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure. We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"... China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow. I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories. I mentioned this a while back and vvs was a fierce opposer.How times change Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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wukan		#1220 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 3:33:39 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,568		VituVingiSana wrote: wukan wrote: Ericsson wrote: Second half begins today. What are the projections It's been a weak quarter to June(Mpesa is doing a promotion-transactions must have really slumped). I expect a continuation of the same for the second half. Rate cap review is not happening this year so the credit crunch will continue. The only NSE bullish signal is if Trump pursues weak dollar policies. So far the trade/tariff wars have not worked to bring back manufacturing to MAGA. Weak dollar is much easier to implement before the mid-term elections. Dollar index is stuck around 95 so watch on that. If that doesn't happen then watch NSE plunge below 3000 Bringing manufacturing back to the USA (from China) is not going to be easy nor will it be immediate. I have to say Trump is doing what many US presidents were afraid of doing. Perhaps the "mad antics" of Trump will only be appreciated after many years. In Kenya, we need a Trump-like approach to many aspects e.g. manufacturing. I look at our supermarket shelves and feel like crying. We need to reduce the amount/value of imports that we can manufacture cost effectively... We need to reduce the level of corruption and costs it takes to bring goods to market. We need to train more Kenyans to do jobs that have been outsourced including maintaining the railway and roads let alone building infrastructure. We need to find more ways to trade with our neighbors. Not an easy task but we need to collaborate with the Ugandans, Rwandans and even Tanzanians to "Make It In East Africa"... China is not our friend. SA is xenophobic and only wants to export to us. Even the Middle East is exporting non-oil goods to us while hardly taking in our exports except vegetables/fruits. India looks out for itself. USA has MAGA. EU only wants our natural resources and what it cannot grow. I am not saying we should close off our economy but we need to make it more profitable to be a manufacturer so more Kenyans invest in factories. I read how Reagan bankrupted the soviet union through the arms race, learnt to respect the US presidency-it's a powerful position. Trump is planning to blow up the WTO As for Kenya manufacturing we have already missed this bus. Remember we were to be a newly industrialized country by 2020 . Ain't happening soon because we are yet to overcome our rural agrarian past. Our urbanization policies are horrendous-our urban centers are glorified villages. Unless you get the urbanization right(like the Asian economies) the economy will not support long-term manufacturing. Our economic set up right from colonial times leans more to consumption not production. We have a structural problem with our economy and our political leadership has refused to do the necessary structural adjustment. So forget manufacturing. It is easier to manufacture in other countries and use kenya as trading outlet.
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