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Ruto OWES TNA/central a political debt in 2022
Angelica _ann
#21 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 8:58:02 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Hon Ngunjiri Wambugu agrees with me. That Looto should pay the debt (nusu mkate) he owes okuyos in 2022.....

https://www.the-star.co....thing-ngunjiri_c1774046

Quote:
In 2013, William Ruto made certain demands to Uhuru so that he could rally the Kalenjin to support Uhuru for the Presidency.

Among the demands Ruto made was that the position of Deputy President be given to a Kalenjin; that Kalenjins get certain positions in the Cabinet; that Kalenjins are employed in parastatals; and that he - on behalf of the Kalenjin community - have a general say in how Uhuru’s Government would be run.

Uhuru agreed.

Based on this agreement Ruto then went out and rallied the Kalenjins to support Uhuru Kenyatta. The rest is history.

So let’s understand something. Ruto - & the Kalenjin - did not support Uhuru Kenyatta for nothing.

They did it because Uhuru Kenyatta made certain promises to them - and they believed him. Uhuru then delivered on these promises. Kalenjin interests have been taken care of since Uhuru got into office.

Let me re-emphasise this.

William Ruto did not support Uhuru for nothing. Uhuru promised certain things to Ruto. Ruto supported Uhuru because of these promises. Uhuru delivered on these promises.

Today I see my Kikuyu colleagues ‘Tanga Tanga-ing’ everywhere rallying our region to support Ruto in 2022. I have just one question for them.

‘#KimaniIchungwa, #RigathiGachagua & Co; what demands have you made on William Ruto on behalf of our community, in return for our votes that you are promising him in 2022? Are those demands personal to your squad alone - or do they include the rest of us?’

To emphasise - Ruto asked; actually Ruto demanded; certain things from Uhuru Kenyatta prior to supporting him in 2013; for himself and for his people. Uhuru promised to meet these demands if they won. Ruto delivered the Kalenjin vote. They won. Uhuru delivered on the demands Ruto had made.

Now am asking - what have kina Ichungwa, Rigathi & Co asked Ruto for, in return for our Kikuyu votes that they are promising him? Has Ruto agreed? Is what they have been promised just for themselves - or also for us - ‘their’ people? This we need to know before we are all put in a basket and taken to Sugoi.


He has not refused. You must trust him, just the same way he trusted UMK!!! But first let us elect him PORK as we had promised him.
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hardwood
#22 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 9:57:04 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Hon Ngunjiri Wambugu agrees with me. That Looto should pay the debt (nusu mkate) he owes okuyos in 2022.....

https://www.the-star.co....thing-ngunjiri_c1774046

Quote:
In 2013, William Ruto made certain demands to Uhuru so that he could rally the Kalenjin to support Uhuru for the Presidency.

Among the demands Ruto made was that the position of Deputy President be given to a Kalenjin; that Kalenjins get certain positions in the Cabinet; that Kalenjins are employed in parastatals; and that he - on behalf of the Kalenjin community - have a general say in how Uhuru’s Government would be run.

Uhuru agreed.

Based on this agreement Ruto then went out and rallied the Kalenjins to support Uhuru Kenyatta. The rest is history.

So let’s understand something. Ruto - & the Kalenjin - did not support Uhuru Kenyatta for nothing.

They did it because Uhuru Kenyatta made certain promises to them - and they believed him. Uhuru then delivered on these promises. Kalenjin interests have been taken care of since Uhuru got into office.

Let me re-emphasise this.

William Ruto did not support Uhuru for nothing. Uhuru promised certain things to Ruto. Ruto supported Uhuru because of these promises. Uhuru delivered on these promises.

Today I see my Kikuyu colleagues ‘Tanga Tanga-ing’ everywhere rallying our region to support Ruto in 2022. I have just one question for them.

‘#KimaniIchungwa, #RigathiGachagua & Co; what demands have you made on William Ruto on behalf of our community, in return for our votes that you are promising him in 2022? Are those demands personal to your squad alone - or do they include the rest of us?’

To emphasise - Ruto asked; actually Ruto demanded; certain things from Uhuru Kenyatta prior to supporting him in 2013; for himself and for his people. Uhuru promised to meet these demands if they won. Ruto delivered the Kalenjin vote. They won. Uhuru delivered on the demands Ruto had made.

Now am asking - what have kina Ichungwa, Rigathi & Co asked Ruto for, in return for our Kikuyu votes that they are promising him? Has Ruto agreed? Is what they have been promised just for themselves - or also for us - ‘their’ people? This we need to know before we are all put in a basket and taken to Sugoi.


He has not refused. You must trust him, just the same way he trusted UMK!!! But first let us elect him PORK as we had promised him.



He must put the 50% (nusu mikate) on the table first before discussions can proceed. Just like ohuru aliwekelea mikate kwa meza prior to 2013 election. As they say it difficult to help someone to hunt when you are not assured of even getting some matumbo from the swara.
2012
#23 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 12:05:09 PM
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In my opinion, there are two scenarios to determine if UK owes WSR or not.

1. Owes: If WSR made UK PORK

2. Not: If UK made WRS DPORK

It's that simple.

BBI will solve it
:)
Angelica _ann
#24 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 12:31:31 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
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2012 wrote:
In my opinion, there are two scenarios to determine if UK owes WSR or not.

1. Owes: If WSR made UK PORK

2. Not: If UK made WRS DPORK

It's that simple.


Baba made UMK PORK smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
2012
#25 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 1:15:30 PM
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Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
2012 wrote:
In my opinion, there are two scenarios to determine if UK owes WSR or not.

1. Owes: If WSR made UK PORK

2. Not: If UK made WRS DPORK

It's that simple.


Baba made UMK PORK smile


Baba Gidi or Baba baba?

Baba baba made baba Jimmy PORK, baba Gidi made UK PORK.

BBI will solve it
:)
Swenani
#26 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2018 1:28:01 PM
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2012 wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
2012 wrote:
In my opinion, there are two scenarios to determine if UK owes WSR or not.

1. Owes: If WSR made UK PORK

2. Not: If UK made WRS DPORK

It's that simple.


Baba made UMK PORK smile


Baba Gidi or Baba baba?

Baba baba made baba Jimmy PORK, baba Gidi made UK PORK.

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hardwood
#27 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2019 1:44:44 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
hardwood wrote:
Hon Ngunjiri Wambugu agrees with me. That Looto should pay the debt (nusu mkate) he owes okuyos in 2022.....

https://www.the-star.co....thing-ngunjiri_c1774046

Quote:
In 2013, William Ruto made certain demands to Uhuru so that he could rally the Kalenjin to support Uhuru for the Presidency.

Among the demands Ruto made was that the position of Deputy President be given to a Kalenjin; that Kalenjins get certain positions in the Cabinet; that Kalenjins are employed in parastatals; and that he - on behalf of the Kalenjin community - have a general say in how Uhuru’s Government would be run.

Uhuru agreed.

Based on this agreement Ruto then went out and rallied the Kalenjins to support Uhuru Kenyatta. The rest is history.

So let’s understand something. Ruto - & the Kalenjin - did not support Uhuru Kenyatta for nothing.

They did it because Uhuru Kenyatta made certain promises to them - and they believed him. Uhuru then delivered on these promises. Kalenjin interests have been taken care of since Uhuru got into office.

Let me re-emphasise this.

William Ruto did not support Uhuru for nothing. Uhuru promised certain things to Ruto. Ruto supported Uhuru because of these promises. Uhuru delivered on these promises.

Today I see my Kikuyu colleagues ‘Tanga Tanga-ing’ everywhere rallying our region to support Ruto in 2022. I have just one question for them.

‘#KimaniIchungwa, #RigathiGachagua & Co; what demands have you made on William Ruto on behalf of our community, in return for our votes that you are promising him in 2022? Are those demands personal to your squad alone - or do they include the rest of us?’

To emphasise - Ruto asked; actually Ruto demanded; certain things from Uhuru Kenyatta prior to supporting him in 2013; for himself and for his people. Uhuru promised to meet these demands if they won. Ruto delivered the Kalenjin vote. They won. Uhuru delivered on the demands Ruto had made.

Now am asking - what have kina Ichungwa, Rigathi & Co asked Ruto for, in return for our Kikuyu votes that they are promising him? Has Ruto agreed? Is what they have been promised just for themselves - or also for us - ‘their’ people? This we need to know before we are all put in a basket and taken to Sugoi.


True. Support is not automatic. He must give TNA 50% of govt. The TNA/URP agreement was a 20yr affair, Ohuru akule yake kumi, uilliam akule yake kumi. We are now approaching half time in 2022 and also need to know who in TNA is to be 2022 Deputy President as per the arrangement. 2013-2021 was first half of TNA/URP agreement, 2022-2032 will be 2nd round.
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