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CNN's Anthony Bourdain - Parts UnKnown
KulaRaha
#21 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 9:01:55 AM
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Very very sad...his shows were so inspiring...I'd always watch for the city/country I was travelling to for hints and tips.

I envied this man.....what a life he had, but it seems its all smoke and mirrors.

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masukuma
#22 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 9:26:40 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Very very sad...his shows were so inspiring...I'd always watch for the city/country I was travelling to for hints and tips.

I envied this man.....what a life he had, but it seems its all smoke and mirrors.


I don't think it was smoke and mirrors... it just wasn't the whole picture. He appreciated that he was living the dream and that his job was the best job in the world but it came at a cost. it cost him hos personal life... being 250 days on the road is not healthy. waking up looking at some beautiful views in Berzakistan is no cure for loneliness.
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2012
#23 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 11:14:23 AM
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masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

BBI will solve it
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masukuma
#24 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 12:13:28 PM
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2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

Think about it... I am not saying that all humans are social but rather being social helped us survive in ages gone by a human who opted not to hang round his tribe- died!! plus we are not talking about you @2012 we are talking about him and he confesses that being 250 days every year on the road kinda messes up people. I can see where he is coming from on that as someone with a family and young kids aspiring to be a proper father but is forced to be on the road many months of the year... it's not an easy life.

secondly, about the afterlife - it's a fairly new (and useful concept). We have been socialized to think about it from a very young age. want to test? just read your bible and see... it was not there in older days... it sprung up later. akina abraham (if the existed) did not have such a concept... heck you will notice it gets sneaked in as Sheol which is the fate of everyone (good and evil, animal and man) then get's polished until there is an abode for good humans to live (streets of gold and other things) and a different place for bad people... fire, brimstone and gnashing of teeth. nothing about the fate of animals later in the bible. the concept of the devil as well... it's not there through out but a rather new concept. Hindus believe in reincarnation and thus don't remember what they did before just that what they are enjoying/suffering now is a product of previous but forgotten good or bad.
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2012
#25 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 2:08:39 PM
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masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

Think about it... I am not saying that all humans are social but rather being social helped us survive in ages gone by a human who opted not to hang round his tribe- died!! plus we are not talking about you @2012 we are talking about him and he confesses that being 250 days every year on the road kinda messes up people. I can see where he is coming from on that as someone with a family and young kids aspiring to be a proper father but is forced to be on the road many months of the year... it's not an easy life.

secondly, about the afterlife - it's a fairly new (and useful concept). We have been socialized to think about it from a very young age. want to test? just read your bible and see... it was not there in older days... it sprung up later. akina abraham (if the existed) did not have such a concept... heck you will notice it gets sneaked in as Sheol which is the fate of everyone (good and evil, animal and man) then get's polished until there is an abode for good humans to live (streets of gold and other things) and a different place for bad people... fire, brimstone and gnashing of teeth. nothing about the fate of animals later in the bible. the concept of the devil as well... it's not there through out but a rather new concept. Hindus believe in reincarnation and thus don't remember what they did before just that what they are enjoying/suffering now is a product of previous but forgotten good or bad.



Forced by whom? The guy said (claimed)he had more than enough money. We all knew he was rich.

I disagree with you on the afterlife being a new concept. There's evidence against that in the ancient tombs of Egypt and South America. Also, all African cultures and religions believed in the afterlife. Even jihadists believe you get 7 virgins after (I've always wondered if they remain virgins after he deflowers them or he gets another seven then the first 7 are handed over to the new arrival... Story for another time n' thread).

BBI will solve it
:)
harrydre
#26 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 3:20:38 AM
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masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

Think about it... I am not saying that all humans are social but rather being social helped us survive in ages gone by a human who opted not to hang round his tribe- died!! plus we are not talking about you @2012 we are talking about him and he confesses that being 250 days every year on the road kinda messes up people. I can see where he is coming from on that as someone with a family and young kids aspiring to be a proper father but is forced to be on the road many months of the year... it's not an easy life.

secondly, about the afterlife - it's a fairly new (and useful concept). We have been socialized to think about it from a very young age. want to test? just read your bible and see... it was not there in older days... it sprung up later. akina abraham (if the existed) did not have such a concept... heck you will notice it gets sneaked in as Sheol which is the fate of everyone (good and evil, animal and man) then get's polished until there is an abode for good humans to live (streets of gold and other things) and a different place for bad people... fire, brimstone and gnashing of teeth. nothing about the fate of animals later in the bible. the concept of the devil as well... it's not there through out but a rather new concept. Hindus believe in reincarnation and thus don't remember what they did before just that what they are enjoying/suffering now is a product of previous but forgotten good or bad.


Something must have happened not just the travel. He could have worked over summer and travel with family as they shoot the episodes ( schools close for like 3 months)

So iko kitu.
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masukuma
#27 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:55:22 AM
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harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

Think about it... I am not saying that all humans are social but rather being social helped us survive in ages gone by a human who opted not to hang round his tribe- died!! plus we are not talking about you @2012 we are talking about him and he confesses that being 250 days every year on the road kinda messes up people. I can see where he is coming from on that as someone with a family and young kids aspiring to be a proper father but is forced to be on the road many months of the year... it's not an easy life.

secondly, about the afterlife - it's a fairly new (and useful concept). We have been socialized to think about it from a very young age. want to test? just read your bible and see... it was not there in older days... it sprung up later. akina abraham (if the existed) did not have such a concept... heck you will notice it gets sneaked in as Sheol which is the fate of everyone (good and evil, animal and man) then get's polished until there is an abode for good humans to live (streets of gold and other things) and a different place for bad people... fire, brimstone and gnashing of teeth. nothing about the fate of animals later in the bible. the concept of the devil as well... it's not there through out but a rather new concept. Hindus believe in reincarnation and thus don't remember what they did before just that what they are enjoying/suffering now is a product of previous but forgotten good or bad.


Something must have happened not just the travel. He could have worked over summer and travel with family as they shoot the episodes ( schools close for like 3 months)

So iko kitu.

Am I the only one who read his interviews? why are you doubting and it came from his own mouth?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#28 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:16:31 AM
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2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

Think about it... I am not saying that all humans are social but rather being social helped us survive in ages gone by a human who opted not to hang round his tribe- died!! plus we are not talking about you @2012 we are talking about him and he confesses that being 250 days every year on the road kinda messes up people. I can see where he is coming from on that as someone with a family and young kids aspiring to be a proper father but is forced to be on the road many months of the year... it's not an easy life.

secondly, about the afterlife - it's a fairly new (and useful concept). We have been socialized to think about it from a very young age. want to test? just read your bible and see... it was not there in older days... it sprung up later. akina abraham (if the existed) did not have such a concept... heck you will notice it gets sneaked in as Sheol which is the fate of everyone (good and evil, animal and man) then get's polished until there is an abode for good humans to live (streets of gold and other things) and a different place for bad people... fire, brimstone and gnashing of teeth. nothing about the fate of animals later in the bible. the concept of the devil as well... it's not there through out but a rather new concept. Hindus believe in reincarnation and thus don't remember what they did before just that what they are enjoying/suffering now is a product of previous but forgotten good or bad.



Forced by whom? The guy said (claimed)he had more than enough money. We all knew he was rich.

I disagree with you on the afterlife being a new concept. There's evidence against that in the ancient tombs of Egypt and South America. Also, all African cultures and religions believed in the afterlife. Even jihadists believe you get 7 virgins after (I've always wondered if they remain virgins after he deflowers them or he gets another seven then the first 7 are handed over to the new arrival... Story for another time n' thread).


yes... Boss the Afterlife is a construct to ensure people self regulate while living! you make a bad move - even if I (the law maker) don't catch you ... utapatikana tu! The all observing eye is recording and utapatikana after you die and you will SUFFFER!!
The very fact that all 'afterlifes' are so different from each other points to the fact that they are all fiction. The only thing that 'universal' theories of afterlife exist simply point to the fact that there is a universal need for the human brain to understand and explain what happens after death - then each brain/set of brains creates it's own fiction to explain it. The human brain fears the unknown and naturally plugs that unknown with an answer that cannot be proven true or false... at least at the time of conceptualizing the fictitious answer.

Ati - forced by who? - Hotel California my fren! The guy talked about it... read what he said! The very fact that what you call 'successful' people kill themselves and you don't understand why - implies that the heuristics you use to come to answers have failed you at this point and instead of pushing it to the unquestionable unknowns as we have done in ages gone by referring to afterlifes, divinity, curses e.t.c. open yourself to new understanding... study depression and why it occurs.
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harrydre
#29 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:44:46 AM
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masukuma wrote:
harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

Think about it... I am not saying that all humans are social but rather being social helped us survive in ages gone by a human who opted not to hang round his tribe- died!! plus we are not talking about you @2012 we are talking about him and he confesses that being 250 days every year on the road kinda messes up people. I can see where he is coming from on that as someone with a family and young kids aspiring to be a proper father but is forced to be on the road many months of the year... it's not an easy life.

secondly, about the afterlife - it's a fairly new (and useful concept). We have been socialized to think about it from a very young age. want to test? just read your bible and see... it was not there in older days... it sprung up later. akina abraham (if the existed) did not have such a concept... heck you will notice it gets sneaked in as Sheol which is the fate of everyone (good and evil, animal and man) then get's polished until there is an abode for good humans to live (streets of gold and other things) and a different place for bad people... fire, brimstone and gnashing of teeth. nothing about the fate of animals later in the bible. the concept of the devil as well... it's not there through out but a rather new concept. Hindus believe in reincarnation and thus don't remember what they did before just that what they are enjoying/suffering now is a product of previous but forgotten good or bad.


Something must have happened not just the travel. He could have worked over summer and travel with family as they shoot the episodes ( schools close for like 3 months)

So iko kitu.

Am I the only one who read his interviews? why are you doubting and it came from his own mouth?


I will leave this here.

https://www.yourtango.co...een-with-before-he-died


http://www.showbiz411.co...flaunting-new-boyfriend



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masukuma
#30 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:29:08 AM
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harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

Think about it... I am not saying that all humans are social but rather being social helped us survive in ages gone by a human who opted not to hang round his tribe- died!! plus we are not talking about you @2012 we are talking about him and he confesses that being 250 days every year on the road kinda messes up people. I can see where he is coming from on that as someone with a family and young kids aspiring to be a proper father but is forced to be on the road many months of the year... it's not an easy life.

secondly, about the afterlife - it's a fairly new (and useful concept). We have been socialized to think about it from a very young age. want to test? just read your bible and see... it was not there in older days... it sprung up later. akina abraham (if the existed) did not have such a concept... heck you will notice it gets sneaked in as Sheol which is the fate of everyone (good and evil, animal and man) then get's polished until there is an abode for good humans to live (streets of gold and other things) and a different place for bad people... fire, brimstone and gnashing of teeth. nothing about the fate of animals later in the bible. the concept of the devil as well... it's not there through out but a rather new concept. Hindus believe in reincarnation and thus don't remember what they did before just that what they are enjoying/suffering now is a product of previous but forgotten good or bad.


Something must have happened not just the travel. He could have worked over summer and travel with family as they shoot the episodes ( schools close for like 3 months)

So iko kitu.

Am I the only one who read his interviews? why are you doubting and it came from his own mouth?


I will leave this here.

https://www.yourtango.co...een-with-before-he-died


http://www.showbiz411.co...flaunting-new-boyfriend





Yes... seemed like another of his relationships was imploding....

Quote:
As much as Bourdain loved his job — which had him traveling about 250 days a year — he often described life on the road as lonely. “I’m living the dream,” Bourdain told People in 2016. “I have the best job in the world and I’m very grateful for that. And I don’t plan on walking away from that any time soon, I can assure you — but it comes at a cost.”

His marriage to Ottavia Busia ended earlier that year with his schedule being partly to blame. “I now wake up alone in lot of faraway places looking at beautiful vistas and doing interesting things,” he said. “But the truth is I’m alone for most of that time.”

Busia and Bourdain are parents to Ariane, now 11. In an interview with the magazine a few months ago, he said he felt “some responsibility” to “at least try to live” for her.

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2012
#31 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:08:50 AM
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harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
harrydre wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
There's just such a finality with death that I don't get why people commit. Now, what guarantees does Bourdain have that what comes after is better? I know there's an argument that there's nothing after but everything points against that argument, plus what if you find it's worse than what you had here and it's not as easy to get out?

What arguments are these?


Every logical or unlogical thing I've heard about death points to some sort of an afterlife. Simple thing is what does your sixth sense tell you? If there was nothing after for sure, most people would have left by now.
Anyway on a different topic on the same matter, why is loneliness seen as a cause? How does relationships with other people bring satisfaction to ones' life? I'm the kind of person who finds satisfaction from creating things and developing solutions but not in small talk...

Think about it... I am not saying that all humans are social but rather being social helped us survive in ages gone by a human who opted not to hang round his tribe- died!! plus we are not talking about you @2012 we are talking about him and he confesses that being 250 days every year on the road kinda messes up people. I can see where he is coming from on that as someone with a family and young kids aspiring to be a proper father but is forced to be on the road many months of the year... it's not an easy life.

secondly, about the afterlife - it's a fairly new (and useful concept). We have been socialized to think about it from a very young age. want to test? just read your bible and see... it was not there in older days... it sprung up later. akina abraham (if the existed) did not have such a concept... heck you will notice it gets sneaked in as Sheol which is the fate of everyone (good and evil, animal and man) then get's polished until there is an abode for good humans to live (streets of gold and other things) and a different place for bad people... fire, brimstone and gnashing of teeth. nothing about the fate of animals later in the bible. the concept of the devil as well... it's not there through out but a rather new concept. Hindus believe in reincarnation and thus don't remember what they did before just that what they are enjoying/suffering now is a product of previous but forgotten good or bad.


Something must have happened not just the travel. He could have worked over summer and travel with family as they shoot the episodes ( schools close for like 3 months)

So iko kitu.

Am I the only one who read his interviews? why are you doubting and it came from his own mouth?


I will leave this here.

https://www.yourtango.co...een-with-before-he-died


http://www.showbiz411.co...flaunting-new-boyfriend





Divorce, cheating and being dumped is the order of the day in the western world. It's like catching a cold. I don't think this would be the cause. Huyu ni kuchoka na maisha.

BBI will solve it
:)
murchr
#32 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:23:46 PM
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He was in Nairobi on his last days with Kamau Bell. And no Kamau ain't Kenyan, but he has come to appreciate being associated with Kenya.

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#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 26, 2018 10:43:22 AM
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murchr wrote:
He was in Nairobi on his last days with Kamau Bell. And no Kamau ain't Kenyan, but he has come to appreciate being associated with Kenya.



Can't wait to watch the full episode.
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