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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:When you fly into a mountain at about 300kph, you can't survive. From the video it seems like the plane would have gone over the mountain if it was 50m higher in altitude. Problem is that it could have been flying through clouds and thus couldn't see terrain ahead. Though arent aircraft supposed to have instruments that warn about terrain ahead?
@hardwood, I thought the pilot should have automatically known the correct altitude she should have been at? Is the navigation in this plane model manual? (I'm not implying anything, just ignorant in these matter). Only the black box or voice recorder will tell us what really happened, hoping the plane had one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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No survivors....Sad. RIP. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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hardwood wrote:No survivors....Sad. RIP. Sad Sad Sad  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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hardwood wrote:kenmac wrote:May they Rest In Peace.
The rescue mission was unacceptably slow. Even if there were survivors, they couldn't have lasted the 40 hours of pain and numbing cold.
Shithole country!! How were they to spot the plane while the peaks were covered by clouds?  Am not sure how, but whatever technologies they could get. Use drones with night vision or metal detectors or whatever could accelerate the process. If the same crash happened in another country, do you think it would have taken 40 hours? Even motorbikes have trackers nowadays. All I want, if ever am in a plane and it crashes, I should be found in the shortest time possible, dead or alive.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/4/2008 Posts: 1,289 Location: Nairobi
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I do not understand how small minded our media fellas are. They show no respect to the bereaved families. Capitalfm covered the wailing of relatives as a news item airing the recordings.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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FundamentAli wrote:I do not understand how small minded our media fellas are. They show no respect to the bereaved families. Capitalfm covered the wailing of relatives as a news item airing the recordings. It's not the media. That's how our society is.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/4/2008 Posts: 1,289 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:FundamentAli wrote:I do not understand how small minded our media fellas are. They show no respect to the bereaved families. Capitalfm covered the wailing of relatives as a news item airing the recordings. It's not the media. That's how our society is. I don't think it is the society. Someone had to ask in public for respect to be shown. I remember when a KQ plane clashed in Cote de Voire, a cameraman was busy chasing a wailing relative and there was an outcry about the incident. Surely the media has a role to play on decorum. The editors should be ashamed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:When you fly into a mountain at about 300kph, you can't survive. From the video it seems like the plane would have gone over the mountain if it was 50m higher in altitude. Problem is that it could have been flying through clouds and thus couldn't see terrain ahead. Though arent aircraft supposed to have instruments that warn about terrain ahead?
@hardwood, I thought the pilot should have automatically known the correct altitude she should have been at? Is the navigation in this plane model manual? (I'm not implying anything, just ignorant in these matter). The instruments should have alerted her on terrain proximity. Either equipment wasn't working or the attempt to fly higher failed. We need a serious investigation. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Sad. They died doing what they loved best. Aparently on the fateful day they had flown to maasai mara, Homa Bay, and then to Kitale. Such a big loss. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Meanwhile... Quote:Three Kenya Red Cross staff are fighting for their lives in hospital after their vehicle crashed head-on with a lorry on their way to Njambini, Kinangop, to help with the search of the missing Fly Sax plane in the Aberdares. Wish them quick recovery.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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FundamentAli wrote:I do not understand how small minded our media fellas are. They show no respect to the bereaved families. Capitalfm covered the wailing of relatives as a news item airing the recordings. I thought I was the only one who found it offensive. No interview, just people crying
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The crash was terrible. Bodies decapitated, dismembered, legs torn off etc. Only consolation is that it happened in a flash and thus reduced victims suffering.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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hardwood wrote:The crash was terrible. Bodies decapitated, dismembered, legs torn off etc. Only consolation is that it happened in a flash and thus reduced victims suffering. Horrible way to die. At times media need to censor some of the details in respect for the departed. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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harrydre wrote:hardwood wrote:The crash was terrible. Bodies decapitated, dismembered, legs torn off etc. Only consolation is that it happened in a flash and thus reduced victims suffering. Horrible way to die. At times media need to censor some of the details in respect for the departed. I thought it happens very fast so could be one of the better ways to depart?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 488
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Lolest! wrote:FundamentAli wrote:I do not understand how small minded our media fellas are. They show no respect to the bereaved families. Capitalfm covered the wailing of relatives as a news item airing the recordings. I thought I was the only one who found it offensive. No interview, just people crying They are reporting with misplaced confidence that Elephant is the highest point on the Aberdares.....Mt Satima is.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote:Initial investigations into the plane crash that killed 10 people on Tuesday evening points to a possibility that the ill-fated aircraft may have been misled by the control tower in Nairobi to plunge into a doomed flight path.
After the wreckage of the FlySax aircraft was located yesterday morning strewn in dense mountainous jungle in Aberdare Ranges, emerging details last evening indicated its two pilots may have been led to fly low in zero visibility and crash into the side of the mountain.
Multiple reports from Kenya Wildlife Service, Kenya Police, aviation authorities and various security agencies said there was high possibility the 28-year-old pilot, Captain Barbara Wangeci Kamau who was on the controls, was guided to fly at 11,000 feet instead of 15,000 feet above sea level that would have been the requisite height to clear the brow of the rugged ranges on the flight path. http://www.mediamaxnetwo...-misled-to-death-plunge/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Lolest! wrote: Quote: Initial investigations into the plane crash that killed 10 people on Tuesday evening points to a possibility that the ill-fated aircraft may have been misled by the control tower in Nairobi to plunge into a doomed flight path.
After the wreckage of the FlySax aircraft was located yesterday morning strewn in dense mountainous jungle in Aberdare Ranges, emerging details last evening indicated its two pilots may have been led to fly low in zero visibility and crash into the side of the mountain.
Multiple reports from Kenya Wildlife Service, Kenya Police, aviation authorities and various security agencies said there was high possibility the 28-year-old pilot, Captain Barbara Wangeci Kamau who was on the controls, was guided to fly at 11,000 feet instead of 15,000 feet above sea level that would have been the requisite height to clear the brow of the rugged ranges on the flight path. http://www.mediamaxnetwo...misled-to-death-plunge/ If this is true, someone should resign. KCAA is the organization that is delaying the status of flying direct to the US. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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gk wrote:Lolest! wrote:FundamentAli wrote:I do not understand how small minded our media fellas are. They show no respect to the bereaved families. Capitalfm covered the wailing of relatives as a news item airing the recordings. I thought I was the only one who found it offensive. No interview, just people crying They are reporting with misplaced confidence that Elephant is the highest point on the Aberdares.....Mt Satima is. Roger that. I actually noted that but thought maybe Elephant Point has grown over the years.  Anyway, journalist/reporters in this country are so ill informed and downright lazy.Bure sana
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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murchr wrote:Lolest! wrote: Quote: Initial investigations into the plane crash that killed 10 people on Tuesday evening points to a possibility that the ill-fated aircraft may have been misled by the control tower in Nairobi to plunge into a doomed flight path.
After the wreckage of the FlySax aircraft was located yesterday morning strewn in dense mountainous jungle in Aberdare Ranges, emerging details last evening indicated its two pilots may have been led to fly low in zero visibility and crash into the side of the mountain.
Multiple reports from Kenya Wildlife Service, Kenya Police, aviation authorities and various security agencies said there was high possibility the 28-year-old pilot, Captain Barbara Wangeci Kamau who was on the controls, was guided to fly at 11,000 feet instead of 15,000 feet above sea level that would have been the requisite height to clear the brow of the rugged ranges on the flight path. http://www.mediamaxnetwo...misled-to-death-plunge/ If this is true, someone should resign. KCAA is the organization that is delaying the status of flying direct to the US. Eti someone should resign  We Kenyans have such low standards for accountability. And if you know Kenyans, nobody will resign from this. In a civilized country that's not a sheet-hole, the person would be fired for negligence, investigated and possibly charged with manslaughter depending on the results of the investigation. The entire department would be overhauled and those who remain would be sent for retraining.
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