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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#10041 Posted : Monday, June 04, 2018 3:37:58 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka - Weren't buddy passes being given/sold to "buddies" so it wasn't just the employee BUT potential paying pax?
How much did a buddy pass pax pay?
If a buddy pax is only paying for taxes [which are given to GoK or other jurisdictions] then KQ has no advantage.

Were buddy passes being misused?

Loopholes leading to revenue leakage. It is even better for the plane to fly empty rather than these Ngunze's half baked ideas.

This guy called Mikosz knows exactly the underlying issues affecting the financial performance of the Airline. I wish he continues on this role for 5+ years.
Mikosz ran an airline. Neither Naikuni nor Ngunze did so. Experience helps.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
maka
#10042 Posted : Monday, June 04, 2018 3:50:53 PM
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obiero wrote:
@maka why would a KQ staff want to fly haphazardly rather than concentrate on his/her job.. plus stating that revenue would be zero isn’t true. incase the staff genuinely needs to fly, he/she would still pay up at market rate


Let's say am flying to the states... I pay full fare on KQ to Amsterdam then I get a subsidized rate on Delta because it's on Skyteam... Even employees will stop flying KQ... Anyway it will not be scrapped for good that am 100% sure now...
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maka
#10043 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 12:17:46 PM
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New Ground Services Director (62 years)comes in from KLM... Takes over from Musila who moved to Technical Dept.
possunt quia posse videntur
ArrestedDev
#10044 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 1:47:06 PM
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maka wrote:
New Ground Services Director (62 years)comes in from KLM... Takes over from Musila who moved to Technical Dept.


What position did Musila moved to? KLM now taking a tight grip of KQ. At 62, that is a retiree from KLM.
Chaka
#10045 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 2:00:30 PM
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May be retirement age huko Holland is 70 years young?
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
New Ground Services Director (62 years)comes in from KLM... Takes over from Musila who moved to Technical Dept.


What position did Musila moved to? KLM now taking a tight grip of KQ. At 62, that is a retiree from KLM.

maka
#10046 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:04:30 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
New Ground Services Director (62 years)comes in from KLM... Takes over from Musila who moved to Technical Dept.


What position did Musila moved to? KLM now taking a tight grip of KQ. At 62, that is a retiree from KLM.


Director Technical
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maka
#10047 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:08:45 AM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Musimo wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
1) US pushed to September...
2) 2 dreamliners coming back home...

1. Bad news
2. Good news

Are the dreamliners being returned early or is it as a result of end of lease period? as per this link, the dreamliners should be back 2019 at the earliest...
https://www.businessdail...64090-lxu0kn/index.html
What about the 777s? will they be sold off or come back with a potential to fly NBO-JFK? I think the code share with delta will grant them a very good connectivity network with the americas

Habari ndio hii https://www.businessdail...8052-4v0r0cz/index.html


Must have had a clause for early recall... Coz without those 2 planes there is only 1 extra dreamliner on standby the one that used to go to Hanoi and HK...

777 honestly sijui... The 1st 6 months on that route will be loss making...

Going cowboy to USA seems risky but I wish KQ good luck and Godspeed. USD 999 on Economy to JFK is dirt cheap


Compe...


possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#10048 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:35:52 AM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Musimo wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
1) US pushed to September...
2) 2 dreamliners coming back home...

1. Bad news
2. Good news

Are the dreamliners being returned early or is it as a result of end of lease period? as per this link, the dreamliners should be back 2019 at the earliest...
https://www.businessdail...64090-lxu0kn/index.html
What about the 777s? will they be sold off or come back with a potential to fly NBO-JFK? I think the code share with delta will grant them a very good connectivity network with the americas

Habari ndio hii https://www.businessdail...8052-4v0r0cz/index.html


Must have had a clause for early recall... Coz without those 2 planes there is only 1 extra dreamliner on standby the one that used to go to Hanoi and HK...

777 honestly sijui... The 1st 6 months on that route will be loss making...

Going cowboy to USA seems risky but I wish KQ good luck and Godspeed. USD 999 on Economy to JFK is dirt cheap


Compe...



Rwandair is overly ambitious. And remember as Chinua said.. Too much ambition kills

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
maka
#10049 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:54:25 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Musimo wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
1) US pushed to September...
2) 2 dreamliners coming back home...

1. Bad news
2. Good news

Are the dreamliners being returned early or is it as a result of end of lease period? as per this link, the dreamliners should be back 2019 at the earliest...
https://www.businessdail...64090-lxu0kn/index.html
What about the 777s? will they be sold off or come back with a potential to fly NBO-JFK? I think the code share with delta will grant them a very good connectivity network with the americas

Habari ndio hii https://www.businessdail...8052-4v0r0cz/index.html


Must have had a clause for early recall... Coz without those 2 planes there is only 1 extra dreamliner on standby the one that used to go to Hanoi and HK...

777 honestly sijui... The 1st 6 months on that route will be loss making...

Going cowboy to USA seems risky but I wish KQ good luck and Godspeed. USD 999 on Economy to JFK is dirt cheap


Compe...



Rwandair is overly ambitious. And remember as Chinua said.. Too much ambition kills


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Endelea kuimba tu...
possunt quia posse videntur
VituVingiSana
#10050 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 12:02:59 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,077
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Musimo wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
1) US pushed to September...
2) 2 dreamliners coming back home...

1. Bad news
2. Good news

Are the dreamliners being returned early or is it as a result of end of lease period? as per this link, the dreamliners should be back 2019 at the earliest...
https://www.businessdail...64090-lxu0kn/index.html
What about the 777s? will they be sold off or come back with a potential to fly NBO-JFK? I think the code share with delta will grant them a very good connectivity network with the americas

Habari ndio hii https://www.businessdail...8052-4v0r0cz/index.html


Must have had a clause for early recall... Coz without those 2 planes there is only 1 extra dreamliner on standby the one that used to go to Hanoi and HK...

777 honestly sijui... The 1st 6 months on that route will be loss making...

Going cowboy to USA seems risky but I wish KQ good luck and Godspeed. USD 999 on Economy to JFK is dirt cheap


Compe...



Rwandair is overly ambitious. And remember as Chinua said.. Too much ambition kills
People who live in Glass Houses should not throw stones. I don’t think a single frequency to USA is overly ambitious.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#10051 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:11:41 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,657
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Musimo wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
1) US pushed to September...
2) 2 dreamliners coming back home...

1. Bad news
2. Good news

Are the dreamliners being returned early or is it as a result of end of lease period? as per this link, the dreamliners should be back 2019 at the earliest...
https://www.businessdail...64090-lxu0kn/index.html
What about the 777s? will they be sold off or come back with a potential to fly NBO-JFK? I think the code share with delta will grant them a very good connectivity network with the americas

Habari ndio hii https://www.businessdail...8052-4v0r0cz/index.html


Must have had a clause for early recall... Coz without those 2 planes there is only 1 extra dreamliner on standby the one that used to go to Hanoi and HK...

777 honestly sijui... The 1st 6 months on that route will be loss making...

Going cowboy to USA seems risky but I wish KQ good luck and Godspeed. USD 999 on Economy to JFK is dirt cheap


Compe...



Rwandair is overly ambitious. And remember as Chinua said.. Too much ambition kills
People who live in Glass Houses should not throw stones. I don’t think a single frequency to USA is overly ambitious.


The airline, which is 99% owned by the Government of Rwanda, will fly this route using Airbus A330 which was acquired in 2017.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Metch
#10052 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 1:15:53 PM
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Joined: 12/22/2015
Posts: 224
Location: Mombasa, Kenya
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Musimo wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
1) US pushed to September...
2) 2 dreamliners coming back home...

1. Bad news
2. Good news

Are the dreamliners being returned early or is it as a result of end of lease period? as per this link, the dreamliners should be back 2019 at the earliest...
https://www.businessdail...64090-lxu0kn/index.html
What about the 777s? will they be sold off or come back with a potential to fly NBO-JFK? I think the code share with delta will grant them a very good connectivity network with the americas

Habari ndio hii https://www.businessdail...8052-4v0r0cz/index.html


Must have had a clause for early recall... Coz without those 2 planes there is only 1 extra dreamliner on standby the one that used to go to Hanoi and HK...

777 honestly sijui... The 1st 6 months on that route will be loss making...

Going cowboy to USA seems risky but I wish KQ good luck and Godspeed. USD 999 on Economy to JFK is dirt cheap


Compe...



Rwandair is overly ambitious. And remember as Chinua said.. Too much ambition kills


Rwandair wanakula nyama KQ wakimeza mate Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Start!
tandich
#10053 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 4:16:15 PM
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Posts: 199
I stumbled upon this article a couple of weeks ago.

RwandAir Bankrupting Rwanda
Open Letter To Presidents Yoweri Museveni And John Magufuli


Is there any profitable and self-sufficient airline in Africa/the World?
obiero
#10054 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 8:57:23 PM
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Location: nairobi
tandich wrote:
I stumbled upon this article a couple of weeks ago.

RwandAir Bankrupting Rwanda
Open Letter To Presidents Yoweri Museveni And John Magufuli


Is there any profitable and self-sufficient airline in Africa/the World?

There is none. That's why KQ is taking over KAA.. Ndio sasa tuonane macho kwa macho with Ethiopian

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#10055 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 9:34:55 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
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Location: nairobi

22.06.2018

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
maka
#10056 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 10:04:00 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
tandich wrote:
I stumbled upon this article a couple of weeks ago.

RwandAir Bankrupting Rwanda
Open Letter To Presidents Yoweri Museveni And John Magufuli


Is there any profitable and self-sufficient airline in Africa/the World?



Qantas....

KQ would have been very very far we all know what happened...

ION...



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obiero
#10057 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:09:17 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,484
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
tandich wrote:
I stumbled upon this article a couple of weeks ago.

RwandAir Bankrupting Rwanda
Open Letter To Presidents Yoweri Museveni And John Magufuli


Is there any profitable and self-sufficient airline in Africa/the World?



Qantas....

KQ would have been very very far we all know what happened...

ION...




Does Ethiopia even need 100 planes. Anyways, congratulations

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#10058 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:15:26 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,077
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
tandich wrote:
I stumbled upon this article a couple of weeks ago.

RwandAir Bankrupting Rwanda
Open Letter To Presidents Yoweri Museveni And John Magufuli


Is there any profitable and self-sufficient airline in Africa/the World?

There is none. That's why KQ is taking over KAA.. Ndio sasa tuonane macho kwa macho with Ethiopian

My macho would rather look upon those lasses of Ethiopian... Drool Drool Drool
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Seles83
#10059 Posted : Friday, June 08, 2018 7:48:46 AM
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Location: OZ
The Jambo Jet is a redemption path for KQ, perhaps they can borrow a leave from Air Asia and get a grip of the business... Lots of Capital injection required from government couple with multi billion upgrade of JKIA.

JKIA is a national disgrace especially when you visit other developing countries airports.
More monies, more problems...
obiero
#10060 Posted : Friday, June 08, 2018 9:20:00 AM
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Location: nairobi
Seles83 wrote:
The Jambo Jet is a redemption path for KQ, perhaps they can borrow a leave from Air Asia and get a grip of the business... Lots of Capital injection required from government couple with multi billion upgrade of JKIA.

JKIA is a national disgrace especially when you visit other developing countries airports.

It would be interesting to find out which other African airports you are referring to..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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