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90% of those who end up in court for drinking muratina sending abusive sms e.t.c cannot afford even bail, they do six months etc because of 30K , alafu unaskia watu wakilialia wakora. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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Much Know wrote:90% of those who end up in court for drinking muratina sending abusive sms e.t.c cannot afford even bail, they do six months etc because of 30K , alafu unaskia watu wakilialia wakora. The other day, two poor Kenyans were jailed for three months for not paying a meal bill of Kshs 150. No lawyer said a word......uuuhhhh. Fak me!!. There was no revenue stream there!! “Law school teaches you one thing above all: how to speak while saying absolutely nothing.” ― Krysten Ritter, Bonfire
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,822 Location: Nakuru
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Much Know wrote:This ahmednasir idiot who just follows rich people in courts and streets and hotels is a Kumbaff!!!!! Where is his big mouth when poor people spend months in remand without bail? How does he manage to charge government hundreds of millions "legal fees" aka "yapping fee" in a poor country like kenya?  A thieve who uses law, and wants to drive all the corruption funds into lawyer hands, hatutakubali, go bail out poor people in Kibera, jinga wewe! Clever lawyers and "laws for the rich" and another set for the poor, atapatikana tu one of this days, My peddi just spent weeks in cells for kitu one stone of weed. The law does not belong to ahamednasir idiotic head, he DARED maraga the same way claiming to be the controller of law and maraga did what the idiot was saying cannot be done. This matapaka is overrated. He was exposed in the presidential petition 2017 where he could not even construct proper sentences...he has thrived for too long in a mediocre Kenyan system of kizungu mingi and the time is nigh for him to get off the high horse. One Chinese woman working in the SGR confided in me that the problem with most African countries colonized by what she called "imperialists" is that they inherited(copy pasted)everything from their colonial masters. She cited the bond/bail justice system peculiar to the British where a rich man could buy justice by the mere fact they could afford bond/bail. If the handshake committee succeeds in recommending a change in the constitution, then the clause that says every suspect has a right to bail/bond should be amended to exclude corruption suspects, terrorists, rapists and murderers. In the meantime kudos to the high sparrow and his wakora network for showing commitment to the fight against corruption...watu wakulwe na chawa huko industrial area Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,585
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Fyatu wrote:Much Know wrote:This ahmednasir idiot who just follows rich people in courts and streets and hotels is a Kumbaff!!!!! Where is his big mouth when poor people spend months in remand without bail? How does he manage to charge government hundreds of millions "legal fees" aka "yapping fee" in a poor country like kenya?  A thieve who uses law, and wants to drive all the corruption funds into lawyer hands, hatutakubali, go bail out poor people in Kibera, jinga wewe! Clever lawyers and "laws for the rich" and another set for the poor, atapatikana tu one of this days, My peddi just spent weeks in cells for kitu one stone of weed. The law does not belong to ahamednasir idiotic head, he DARED maraga the same way claiming to be the controller of law and maraga did what the idiot was saying cannot be done. This matapaka is overrated. He was exposed in the presidential petition 2017 where he could not even construct proper sentences...he has thrived for too long in a mediocre Kenyan system of kizungu mingi and the time is nigh for him to get off the high horse. One Chinese woman working in the SGR confided in me that the problem with most African countries colonized by what she called "imperialists" is that they inherited(copy pasted)everything from their colonial masters. She cited the bond/bail justice system peculiar to the British where a rich man could buy justice by the mere fact they could afford bond/bail. If the handshake committee succeeds in recommending a change in the constitution, then the clause that says every suspect has a right to bail/bond should be amended to exclude corruption suspects, terrorists, rapists and murderers. In the meantime kudos to the high sparrow and his wakora network for showing commitment to the fight against corruption...watu wakulwe na chawa huko industrial area A progression from a separate law for the nigger "black slaves". Pesa tu! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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Bail/bond is a right. No rationale for denying Kenyans their right. Slideshows!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,585
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Angelica _ann wrote:Bail/bond is a right. No rationale for denying Kenyans their right. Slideshows!!! The Magistrate sounds very intelligent, he has explained the legal reasoning. Then of course it bail should be free of charge, the Magistrate said not so in cases of ECONOMIC CRIMES, which he correctly says are worse than murder. Any other crime yes, but grand corruption  economic crime destroys people and nations., this is what people are always yapping about, deal with it so people can talk about other things. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Njunge wrote:Much Know wrote:90% of those who end up in court for drinking muratina sending abusive sms e.t.c cannot afford even bail, they do six months etc because of 30K , alafu unaskia watu wakilialia wakora. The other day, two poor Kenyans were jailed for three months for not paying a meal bill of Kshs 150. No lawyer said a word......uuuhhhh. Fak me!!. There was no revenue stream there!! “Law school teaches you one thing above all: how to speak while saying absolutely nothing.” ― Krysten Ritter, Bonfire In a situation where Alma agrees with Much Know and Njunge the rest of human beings should know they are wrong. Bail/bond is not a right. If it were, then there would be no reason for the lawyers to waste our time in court arguing about it. The Judge can deny bail or make bail very expensive. I hope they grant the bail but give them same amount as they stole. Economic criminals are worse than rapists and murderers combined and should be catwalking in and out of courts as they wish. This type of crime should be dealt with absolutely. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 563 Location: Embakasi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Bail/bond is a right. No rationale for denying Kenyans their right. Slideshows!!! One is free to apply for it but they are not guaranteed to get it. In a place where thought is abandoned, freedom can become a curse.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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Where are those lawyers and the rest who are shouting "rights" wapelekee Anne sausages and bacon?. She's told the judge she is starving. It's as if she is the only inmate or the rest of Kenyans in remand eat ballast for supper. Jinga sana!!. Thanks God, the good judge heard none of that nonsense!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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Njunge wrote:Where are those lawyers and the rest who are shouting "rights" wapelekee Anne sausages and bacon?. She's told the judge she is starving. It's as if she is the only inmate or the rest of Kenyans in remand eat ballast for supper. Jinga sana!!. Thanks God, the good judge heard none of that nonsense! You guys are sadists yawa In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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