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murchr
#61 Posted : Monday, June 04, 2018 11:13:10 PM
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Detectives probe possible loss of Sh70 billion at Kenya Pipeline
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hardwood
#62 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2018 10:54:20 AM
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murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:




This is window dressing & sugar coating things yet we all know these 'Officers' cannot do stuff without their bosses' approval. We will just go in circles.

Let us start with the Budget Office that exaggerate stuff.


Accounting officers who draw budgets are also stepping aside for fresh vetting.


Accounting, procurement, budget officers etc work under and on the instructions of the CEO and the board. Therefore the stepping aside should have started with the boards of directors and CEOs.


I do not know where you work but in the organizations i have been in there is a Chief Financing Officer (CFO) who guards the company's wallet/purse if you like. The CEO is not even responsible for his petty cash envelop. But then again, those places are not kiosks


This is how things work.
1. The organisation comes up with workplans and a budget for the following financial year. This is done by the CEO and his team of technocrats of course in consultation/approval of the board.
2. CEO submits budget estimates to parent ministry for onward transmission to treasury.
3. Ministry puts together all budgets of all departments/parastatals under it and pass request to treasury.
4. Treasury allocates funds to ministry in a budget that has to be approved by parliament. The budget covers the financial year.
5. Funds released to institution/parastatal.
6. CEO and his team now executes the various activities on the workplan as per approved budget to fulfill the mandate of the organisation.
7. For supply of various goods and services CEO asks Tender committee to sit and identify suppliers.
8. Suppliers awarded tenders with the approval of the CEO.
9. Procurement/supply dept follow up to ensure goods and services are supplied.
10. Supplier submits invoice to the organisation.
11. CEO asks finance department to pay.
12. Finance officer prepares payment vouchers.
13. Internal audit confirms that payment is OK.
14. CEO as one of the signatories of the bank account has to sign the vouchers/cheques. Finance officer/chief accountant also signatory.
15. Money paid to the supplier.
16. At the end of the financial year CEO submits a report accounting for all funds spent by the organisation.
17. Chief govt auditor sends his external audit team to the organisation to look at the books and prepare a report.
18. Chief auditor presents report on govt expenditure for the financial year.

As you can see from the above there is no way even 1m can be stolen by "ngirita" without the knowledge and facilitation of elements within the organisation....unless ngirita breaks into the safe at the FO's office.


hardwood
#63 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2018 10:58:48 AM
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murchr wrote:

The law wrote:

44. Responsibilities of the accounting officer
(1) An accounting officer of a public entity shall be primarily responsible for
ensuring that the public entity complies with the Act.
(2) In the performance of the responsibility under subsection (1), an accounting
officer shall—
    (a) ensure that procurements of goods, works and services of the public
    entity are within approved budget of that entity;
    (b) constitute all procurement and asset disposal committees within a
    procuring entity in accordance with the Act;
    (c) ensure procurement plans are prepared in conformity with the
    medium term fiscal framework and fiscal policy objectives and, subject
    to subsection (3), submit them to the National Treasury;
    (d) ensure proper documentation of procurement proceedings and safe
    custody of all procurement records in accordance with the Act;
    (e) ensure compliance with sections 68, 147, 148 and 149 of the Public
    Finance Management Act, 2012 (No. 18 of 2012);
    (f) approve and sign all contracts of the procuring entity;
    (g) ensure the procurement and asset disposal process of the public
    entity shall comply with this Act;
    (h) ensure that the procurement processes are handled by different
    professional offices in respect of procurements, initiation, processing
    and receipt of goods, works and services;
    (i) submit to the Authority the part in its procurement plan demonstrating
    application of preference and reservations schemes in relation to the
    procurement budget within sixty days after commencement of the
    financial year; and
    (j) ensure compliance with any other responsibilities assigned by this Act
    or any other Act of Parliament or as may be prescribed in Regulations.

(3) The procurement plans prepared by the national security organs shall be
exempted from submission to the National Treasury.

(4) An accounting officer involved in a procurement transaction on exploitation
of natural resources shall comply with provisions of Article 71 of the Constitution
and any other written law.

45. Corporate decisions and segregation of responsibilities

(1) For the purpose of ensuring that the accounting officer's decisions are made
in a systematic and structured way, an accounting officer shall establish systems
and procedures to facilitate decision making for procurement and asset disposal.

(2) The procedures required under subsection (1), shall be consistent with this
Act and the Regulations.

(3) All procurement processes shall be—
    (a) within the approved budget of the procuring entity and shall be
    planned by the procuring entity concerned through an annual
    procurement plan;
    (b) undertaken by a procuring entity as per the threshold matrix
    prescribed; and
    (c) undertaken in strict adherence to Article 227 of the Constitution.


(4) All asset disposal processes shall be handled by different persons in
respect of identification, consolidation, preparation of a disposal plan, pricing and
the disposal itself.

(5) For the avoidance of doubt, all public officers or State officers involved in
procurement or asset disposal processes shall bear responsibility for their actions
and omissions.






The accounting officer is not the same as the accountant within an organisation. In the ministry the accounting officer is the PS. In a parastatal the accounting officer is the CEO. Remember Waigoro saying Mangiti was the accounting officer for the ministry?
Angelica _ann
#64 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2018 11:05:06 AM
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hardwood
#65 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2018 11:19:18 AM
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https://www.the-star.co....or-nys-scandal_c1763765
Quote:
Public Service and Youth PS Lillian Omollo who stepped aside said her department paid Sh9 billion to suppliers as pending bills from her predecessors.

Omollo told the National Assembly Public Accounts Committee on Friday her office paid the suppliers Sh6.2 billion in Financial Year 2016-17 and Sh2.8 billion in 2017-18.

She said she paid an additional Sh6.6 billion to cohorts, an amount that had accrued for three years before she assumed office in December 18, 2015.

The accounting officer then was PS Peter Mangiti, the holder of authority to incur expenditure was then NYS DG Githinji and CS Anne Waiguru, Omollo told the committee chaired by Ugunja MP Opiyo Wandayi.

“The situation we inherited in NYS when we took offi ce from December 18, 2015, and for director general in January 2016, was one of absolute confusion in all matters relating to procurement and fi nancial statements,” she said.

Omollo said some of the 1,600 suppliers who submitted delivery notes to her office have been threatening her over the pending bills.

“We spend sleepless nights over their threats, consistent calls and intimidation. This has become part of our daily way of life. We have 1,600 delivery notes from suppliers whom we have listed, but if you have not followed the procurement process, I won’t pay,” she said.

Yesterday, Omollo rubbished claims that NYS lost Sh9 billion, saying that she has, together with Ndubai, revolutionised the service and sealed all loopholes for misappropriation of funds.

A loss of Sh9 billion would mean NYS was technically and operationally closed for the two financial years, she said.

“If the colossal amounts of money have been lost and were completely undetected by the Auditor General’s office, it indeed raises a lot of questions, which we too are keen to understand and unravel.”

She said the Auditor General had given her department a clean bill of health in its 2016-17 report.

The report stated in part: “...based on the audit procedures performed, I can confirm that nothing has come to my attention to cause me to believe that public money has [not] been applied lawfully and in an effective way.”
Swenani
#66 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2018 12:13:08 PM
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9 birrion being stolen in one FY and there is no impact on the organization means that stealing plans were mooted at the budgeting phase and it's not only the procurement people to be held accountable but the budget reviewers and approvers as well
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
murchr
#67 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 4:34:16 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#68 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 4:53:10 PM
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hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:

The law wrote:

44. Responsibilities of the accounting officer
(1) An accounting officer of a public entity shall be primarily responsible for
ensuring that the public entity complies with the Act.
(2) In the performance of the responsibility under subsection (1), an accounting
officer shall—
    (a) ensure that procurements of goods, works and services of the public
    entity are within approved budget of that entity;
    (b) constitute all procurement and asset disposal committees within a
    procuring entity in accordance with the Act;
    (c) ensure procurement plans are prepared in conformity with the
    medium term fiscal framework and fiscal policy objectives and, subject
    to subsection (3), submit them to the National Treasury;
    (d) ensure proper documentation of procurement proceedings and safe
    custody of all procurement records in accordance with the Act;
    (e) ensure compliance with sections 68, 147, 148 and 149 of the Public
    Finance Management Act, 2012 (No. 18 of 2012);
    (f) approve and sign all contracts of the procuring entity;
    (g) ensure the procurement and asset disposal process of the public
    entity shall comply with this Act;
    (h) ensure that the procurement processes are handled by different
    professional offices in respect of procurements, initiation, processing
    and receipt of goods, works and services;
    (i) submit to the Authority the part in its procurement plan demonstrating
    application of preference and reservations schemes in relation to the
    procurement budget within sixty days after commencement of the
    financial year; and
    (j) ensure compliance with any other responsibilities assigned by this Act
    or any other Act of Parliament or as may be prescribed in Regulations.

(3) The procurement plans prepared by the national security organs shall be
exempted from submission to the National Treasury.

(4) An accounting officer involved in a procurement transaction on exploitation
of natural resources shall comply with provisions of Article 71 of the Constitution
and any other written law.

45. Corporate decisions and segregation of responsibilities

(1) For the purpose of ensuring that the accounting officer's decisions are made
in a systematic and structured way, an accounting officer shall establish systems
and procedures to facilitate decision making for procurement and asset disposal.

(2) The procedures required under subsection (1), shall be consistent with this
Act and the Regulations.

(3) All procurement processes shall be—
    (a) within the approved budget of the procuring entity and shall be
    planned by the procuring entity concerned through an annual
    procurement plan;
    (b) undertaken by a procuring entity as per the threshold matrix
    prescribed; and
    (c) undertaken in strict adherence to Article 227 of the Constitution.


(4) All asset disposal processes shall be handled by different persons in
respect of identification, consolidation, preparation of a disposal plan, pricing and
the disposal itself.

(5) For the avoidance of doubt, all public officers or State officers involved in
procurement or asset disposal processes shall bear responsibility for their actions
and omissions.






The accounting officer is not the same as the accountant within an organisation. In the ministry the accounting officer is the PS. In a parastatal the accounting officer is the CEO. Remember Waigoro saying Mangiti was the accounting officer for the ministry?


No doubt about that, thats why its Lilian on the hot seat not Sicily.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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aemathenge
#69 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2018 5:48:01 PM
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murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:

The accounting officer is not the same as the accountant within an organisation.

In the ministry the accounting officer is the PS.

In a parastatal the accounting officer is the CEO.

Remember Waigoro saying Mangiti was the accounting officer for the ministry?


No doubt about that, thats why its Lilian on the hot seat not Sicily.

CC.
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murchr
#70 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 6:36:27 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#71 Posted : Friday, June 08, 2018 10:24:10 AM
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Biggest theft is at the counties...

https://www.the-star.co....ears-of-sh81bn_c1769744

Quote:
Kenyans risk losing up to Sh81 billion from the counties pending bills, the Senate Committee has said.

The Senate Parliamentary Accounts Committee yesterday raised the red flag in a possible loss of billions of shillings.

The team said only 10 per cent of the bills are genuine.

It said the country is staring at a mega scandal bigger than the current NYS, NCPB, Kenya Pipeline and Kenya Power scandals combined.

"We might be talking of a fraud of huge proportions," he said.

"The rot might be bigger than what is happening in the national government."

Controller of Budget Agnes Odhiambo, in her 2016-17 report, totalled non-paid bills in the counties at Sh99 billion.
murchr
#72 Posted : Friday, June 08, 2018 4:39:02 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Cornelius Vanderbiltt
#73 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:32:44 PM
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and the hits keep on comming over and over again


murchr
#74 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 4:23:01 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#75 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 4:24:35 PM
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Cornelius Vanderbiltt wrote:
and the hits keep on comming over and over again




Our thieves are out of this world. Vandalizing high voltage cables inside a National park must take alot of guts. Hauogopi simba, moto ya stima ama risasi ya poacher/ranger.......Shame on you Applause

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#76 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 4:59:57 PM
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murchr wrote:


With the current hits and upper cuts going on, I now understand the last election cycle.

These thieves were soooooo invested in their robbery, they were not worried about calling people kimundu. Kama wakenya watapigana, sawa tu.

I mean this is unbelievable. Kila siku, kitu?
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#77 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 5:25:26 PM
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Vetting to go on.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#78 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2018 6:20:24 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#79 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2018 6:26:01 PM
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murchr wrote:


How do you write this under a caption of you greeting and laughing with one of the worst ......


Then again poor Hassan, amepewa kitu so far??????
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Sansa
#80 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2018 7:41:07 PM
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murchr wrote:


Lifestyle audit already ongoing via #weknowyoursalary on twitter! From what I have seen so far, I don't know if we will have anyone to do the audit. Everyone is tainted.
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