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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:I see Cliff Ombeta is in court Representing?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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2012 wrote:murchr wrote:I see Cliff Ombeta is in court Representing? The biggest fish in the catch. Jaza pengo "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Gathige wrote:2012 wrote:murchr wrote:I see Cliff Ombeta is in court Representing? The biggest fish in the catch. Jaza pengo Ms Omollo?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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I am at a place where I can't follow this one on tv. But a quick observation. Even the most efficient public prosecutor in the world would have a problem prosecuting 54 suspects at a go. Each with legal representation. Our ODPP operates mathogothanio style. It's almost like the plan is to lose the case. Can see the ODPP has settled on Nicholas Mutuku to lead the prosecution team. Don't know much about the guy but I watched him during the Pangani six trial. Dude was out of depth. Apparently he is a PhD holder but Orengo and co. made him look like a paralegal.
Our new DPP has never prosecuted a single case in his life. You may want to temper your optimism with a dose of reality.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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Cliff is a prostitute. Useless man. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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What an impressive CV......then the cartels appeared and ate him alive. And he could end up in jail. https://www.the-star.co....richard-ndubai_c1764552
Quote:The National Youth Service director Richard Ndubai has a PhD in Performance Contracting, Measurement and Public Service Delivery from the University of Nairobi.
Ndubai holds a Masters in Public Administration (MPA) from Harvard University, Massachusetts, USA. He did his Bachelor of Commerce (Accounting - Honors) at the University of Nairobi.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Lakini watu wakue serious. If you expect anything from this Jubilee government other than adjournments and the world cup, you really are the kumira kumira people. The last time I was arrested at the same Muthaiga Police Station, I was not allowed babies on board the black maria that took me to court. Neither was I driven in a Prado to and from the police station. This is a gov't of hope. We hoped for Laptops and that hope died. Stadiums lakini, tukapata Miguna. Now we hope for someone to be jailed for stealing your money. Hopefully, this is different. Actually I wouldn't hold my breath. But let's keep hope alive. Tuko Pamoja? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Started - Reading of the charges "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:Started - Reading of the charges Looking at the confusion in that court, the cases are going nowhere. You cannot charge 40+++ in one case, you must evalaute and settle on who to fry nicely !!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/14/2011 Posts: 834 Location: nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:
I am at a place where I can't follow this one on tv. But a quick observation. Even the most efficient public prosecutor in the world would have a problem prosecuting 54 suspects at a go. Each with legal representation. Our ODPP operates mathogothanio style. It's almost like the plan is to lose the case. Can see the ODPP has settled on Nicholas Mutuku to lead the prosecution team. Don't know much about the guy but I watched him during the Pangani six trial. Dude was out of depth. Apparently he is a PhD holder but Orengo and co. made him look like a paralegal.
Our new DPP has never prosecuted a single case in his life. You may want to temper your optimism with a dose of reality.
where is the like button in wazua. This is a great observation
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Started - Reading of the charges Looking at the confusion in that court, the cases are going nowhere. You cannot charge 40+++ in one case, you must evalaute and settle on who to fry nicely !!! That's the popular talk on twitter. They are not being prosecuted jointly today. They are taking a plea, guilty or not guilty alafu kila mtu na yake. so far 8 have taken a plea "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Started - Reading of the charges Looking at the confusion in that court, the cases are going nowhere. You cannot charge 40+++ in one case, you must evalaute and settle on who to fry nicely !!! 20 in court today. 40 lawyers. 3 Landrovers, 5 Subarus. 34 warrants of arrest. 1 case, 1 Judge 500k cash bail. We are being groomed for the next Governor of Nakuru. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Njunge wrote:Cliff is a prostitute. Useless man. Appearing for Ndubai (accused no.2) Seeking bail Tactic no1. Try to kill the case on technicalities "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Started - Reading of the charges Looking at the confusion in that court, the cases are going nowhere. You cannot charge 40+++ in one case, you must evalaute and settle on who to fry nicely !!! That's the popular talk on twitter. They are not being prosecuted jointly today. They are taking a plea, guilty or not guilty alafu kila mtu na yake. so far 8 have taken a plea I know how the court work, 1/2/3 month(s) down the line, (after like 2 mentions and no hearing  )those cases will be consolidated. You can take that to ..... In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:Started - Reading of the charges Looking at the confusion in that court, the cases are going nowhere. You cannot charge 40+++ in one case, you must evalaute and settle on who to fry nicely !!! That's the popular talk on twitter. They are not being prosecuted jointly today. They are taking a plea, guilty or not guilty alafu kila mtu na yake. so far 8 have taken a plea I know how the court work, 1/2/3 month(s) down the line, (after like 2 mentions and no hearing )those cases will be consolidated. You can take that to ..... Judge Odunga "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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murchr wrote:Njunge wrote:Cliff is a prostitute. Useless man. Appearing for Ndubai (accused no.2) Seeking bail Tactic no1. Try to kill the case on technicalities He is like a maggot. Always popping up where there is rot/dead meat. Remember, that pastor's accident?? ....someone tell him life is not all about money
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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FRM2011 wrote:
I am at a place where I can't follow this one on tv. But a quick observation. Even the most efficient public prosecutor in the world would have a problem prosecuting 54 suspects at a go. Each with legal representation. Our ODPP operates mathogothanio style. It's almost like the plan is to lose the case. Can see the ODPP has settled on Nicholas Mutuku to lead the prosecution team. Don't know much about the guy but I watched him during the Pangani six trial. Dude was out of depth. Apparently he is a PhD holder but Orengo and co. made him look like a paralegal.
Our new DPP has never prosecuted a single case in his life. You may want to temper your optimism with a dose of reality.
The reality is, knowing how the police and judiciary work in Kenya, these arrests are likely just a huge extortion scheme. The police and judiciary will hound these 54 people until they share a significant portion of that 9b loot. Then the cases will evaporate.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Mike Ock wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
I am at a place where I can't follow this one on tv. But a quick observation. Even the most efficient public prosecutor in the world would have a problem prosecuting 54 suspects at a go. Each with legal representation. Our ODPP operates mathogothanio style. It's almost like the plan is to lose the case. Can see the ODPP has settled on Nicholas Mutuku to lead the prosecution team. Don't know much about the guy but I watched him during the Pangani six trial. Dude was out of depth. Apparently he is a PhD holder but Orengo and co. made him look like a paralegal.
Our new DPP has never prosecuted a single case in his life. You may want to temper your optimism with a dose of reality.
The reality is, knowing how the police and judiciary work in Kenya, these arrests are likely just a huge extortion scheme. The police and judiciary will hound these 54 people until they share a significant portion of that 9b loot. Then the cases will evaporate.  WORD
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Ara it seems the new DPP might not be as terrible as the last one. Quote:The prosecution says it has 10 files on different matters and different transactions on the money involved in the scandal and wants each file treated separately in terms of bail application. That's according to Citizen Get each individually on a single case would be perfect. Washa ninyamaze sasa nione hii maneno. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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