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WPP Scangroup FY17
Pesa Nane
#11 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2018 5:11:47 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
ScanGroup keeps on bulking up and it has become a regional (not just Kenyan) and possibly and African powerhouse.
That said, is it "investable" [returns] based on the current price?
That's the question I struggle with... The PER seems expensive but am I missing something?

Buying buying and more buying but effects not reflecting, not even on the revenue!
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Ericsson
#12 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:46:40 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ScanGroup keeps on bulking up and it has become a regional (not just Kenyan) and possibly and African powerhouse.
That said, is it "investable" [returns] based on the current price?
That's the question I struggle with... The PER seems expensive but am I missing something?

Buying buying and more buying but effects not reflecting, not even on the revenue!


The buying and buying has been a way of WPP increasing its stake and squeezing out minority shareholders
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:09:20 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ScanGroup keeps on bulking up and it has become a regional (not just Kenyan) and possibly and African powerhouse.
That said, is it "investable" [returns] based on the current price?
That's the question I struggle with... The PER seems expensive but am I missing something?

Buying buying and more buying but effects not reflecting, not even on the revenue!

I still have some shares from the teeny allocation during the IPO but my net cost is zero coz I sold some when prices jumped. I like the story of growth of a local firm though a lot of the growth has come from acquisitions using shares rather than internal growth. WPP has been increasing its stake by selling its subsidiaries to Scan. What % does BT still own?
Anyway, I will watch it but I have no plans of buying more in the near future. There are more attractive firms at good prices.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Pesa Nane
#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:33:37 PM
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WPP Scangroup Proposes to acquire an additional 10.0% stake in Kantar TNS
WPP Scangroup announced its intention to acquire an additional 10.0% of the shares in Kantar TNS
owned by International Research and Marketing Group Holdings Limited (IRMGH). This will see the advertising company acquire an 80.0% stake in Kantar TNS. The consideration for the purchase will be in cash

DBIB Research
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Wondergirl
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2018 1:37:11 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ScanGroup keeps on bulking up and it has become a regional (not just Kenyan) and possibly and African powerhouse.
That said, is it "investable" [returns] based on the current price?
That's the question I struggle with... The PER seems expensive but am I missing something?

Buying buying and more buying but effects not reflecting, not even on the revenue!

I still have some shares from the teeny allocation during the IPO but my net cost is zero coz I sold some when prices jumped. I like the story of growth of a local firm though a lot of the growth has come from acquisitions using shares rather than internal growth. WPP has been increasing its stake by selling its subsidiaries to Scan. What % does BT still own?
Anyway, I will watch it but I have no plans of buying more in the near future. There are more attractive firms at good prices.

@very many things, please do tel..."here are more attractive firms at good prices.[/quote]". and not Kenolsmile I have it in my portifolio..
Ebenyo
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:07:55 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ScanGroup keeps on bulking up and it has become a regional (not just Kenyan) and possibly and African powerhouse.
That said, is it "investable" [returns] based on the current price?
That's the question I struggle with... The PER seems expensive but am I missing something?

The problem with ad agencies is that it falls under creative arts hence ascertaining economic value of the entity largely depends on knowledge of the creative capacity of the ad agency noting that massive talent shifts have previously led to collapse of well established companies. This one is not for the faint hearted

Yes, if BT can keep the talent (& connections) on-board then it makes sense. Anyway, I did buy some scan back in the day but with other opportunities at lower PEs and which seem less risky, I'll stick with others BUT I will keep an eye on Scan.



I also plan to remove two stocks from my portfolio next year.I will keep an eye on this one and TPSEA for possible replacement.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:10:23 AM
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Wondergirl wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
ScanGroup keeps on bulking up and it has become a regional (not just Kenyan) and possibly and African powerhouse.
That said, is it "investable" [returns] based on the current price?
That's the question I struggle with... The PER seems expensive but am I missing something?

Buying buying and more buying but effects not reflecting, not even on the revenue!

I still have some shares from the teeny allocation during the IPO but my net cost is zero coz I sold some when prices jumped. I like the story of growth of a local firm though a lot of the growth has come from acquisitions using shares rather than internal growth. WPP has been increasing its stake by selling its subsidiaries to Scan. What % does BT still own?
Anyway, I will watch it but I have no plans of buying more in the near future. There are more attractive firms at good prices.

@very many things, please do tel..."here are more attractive firms at good prices.
". and not Kenolsmile I have it in my portifolio..[/quote]
Of course KK
Equity
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Mike Ock
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:22:31 AM
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