I like the reasoning that this thread has attracted. I am so happy to learn that most of those that have commented on this matter are very sharp and intelligent. Am so happy to be involved in such.

However, why would humans want to live forever? Why would you want to live up to 100 years? I believe that once i am no longer of any economic or social use, i should just die. to me, living byond 80-85 should be classified as a liability.

Please, humans are invisible to the naked eye.

The live body You see, can't be the human. It may try to instantiate a human. That's all.

It's not that humans just want to live forever.

The case is that they remember that they are eternal.

Not necessarily. Sometimes people bother you and others want you to exit so they can take your hard earned wealth. Also, with love and honest friendship, there's no bother. I personally don't think I'm a bother to anybody, I'm super self reliant and I do not allow people to be a bother to me. Actually, coming to think about it, I don't see people as a bother, just people who need a bit of uplifting and a boost once in a while.

Until fairly recently humans thought the golden age was in the past. there was no new knowledge - until we admitted ignorance and started trying to solve some of these problems. Simple thing like Lightning were once shrouded in mystery.. Mungu atakupiga radi...Thor the god of lightning! We kinda figured out this and now.. we do know how to arrest it. Poverty is another issue - Jesus himself once told his disciples that 'the poor you will always have with you'. slowly by slowly we are realizing that being poor is not a 'divine' problem...it's a technical problem - heck there are countries that really don't have 'poor' in the destitute state we had. people don't die of hunger as it used to be. Who says death is not a 'technical' problem? what if death is like many problems that were once seen as divine such as sterility and even gender selection before and are now 'technical' problems? what if in the next 100 years humans figure out how to live much longer than expected?

I think the word I hate in life is the word tolerance. This was a big reality especially in employment and I hear in marriages and raising kids nowadays. Can you imagine having to tolerate your husband/wife/kids for the rest of your life? What a terrible life. People need to learn to accept, forgive and move on, not tolerate each other. Works perfectly in the work place though because you are somehow lying dependent on someone you might not like to survive. Employers love it. But it's killing you slowly if you stay there for too long. Just a thought as I retire to bed.

That someone would praise others for exuding intelligence then say something alluding otherwise is comical. You think of your grandparents as a bother? You'd hasten their exit? Poor grandparents There is only one commandment with a promise.

You're arguing from a point of ignorance @masukuma.

Divinity and technicality have always been one since the ancients. It's only after the so called 'scientific revolution' that a converse trend gained traction.

Even in the Bible's old Testament death is a technical matter.

And don't you think even now that lightning is divine?

Let's clarify this: For a matter 'A' to qualify as a 'Technical' matter - there should exist a series of steps (finite) that are documented to resolve 'A' and regardless of who executes these steps - 'A' is resolved.
kinda like boiling water, doing that thing with the comb where you rub against your hair and attract pieces of paper, growing food, raising animals, treating malaria, arresting lightning.
For a matter to be 'divine' - it's a matter that relies on a capricious entity who can sometimes be pleased by 'acts' not related to 'A'! for example - not being struck on lightning is a result of not 'committing adultery'. getting wealthy is a product of 'giving tithes'. eradicating malaria from a person's body is a product of 'laying hands on the head of the affected one and chasing demons'. all these would qualify as technical matters if each time a person did the above - the desired consequence would be achieved. but because these acts rely on a 3rd party who (from our end appears 'capricious') - we never get the same results 100 percent of the time.

Can an individual out live or live for as long as a species exists?

A species appears as a force that limits the life span of an individual.

Therefore, if an individual can be differentiated from a species then a new species will have emerged. And that would mean an end or limit of a species.

All species are therefore necessarily limited in space-time.

Therefore an individual must also be limited in space-time.

Humanity can then be an emergent and collective property with different characteristics from person hood.

But humanity would also have to be a subset of something. And in essence humanity would have to be that 'something'...

Our thoughts therefore can only be a short term and linear effort. There must be a limit to our computation and the limits are probably inconclusive.