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hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle...  I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man??
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Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 folks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2012 Posts: 139
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It should be the 5 folks dam as the other 2 were never built. Having the dams all full is similar to having the Tana plus all other smaller tributaries and seasonal rivers flowing towards the Tana Delta. Abit of Geography- a delta is a generally flat area that floods during the rainy season- world over, it is not a new phenomenon. With the guys at Tana river, this should be a yearly migration to higher ground, it is just that last few years the rains have not been heavy making guys settle for longer periods. Pastoralist should tell you about grazing cattle in river valleys during flash floods or sand harvesters getting caught by flash floods. The dams have actually helped the impact of flooding, what we should accept that 2018 has been an outlier- I may be wrong but its the wettest year in recorded history where nature comes to retrace its path. Cutting down trees and bushland has contributed to overland flow of water as it's not trapped enhancing the flooding. harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,502 Location: nairobi
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shadowinvestor wrote:harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... It should be the 5 folks dam as the other 2 were never built. Having the dams all full is similar to having the Tana plus all other smaller tributaries and seasonal rivers flowing towards the Tana Delta. Abit of Geography- a delta is a generally flat area that floods during the rainy season- world over, it is not a new phenomenon. With the guys at Tana river, this should be a yearly migration to higher ground, it is just that last few years the rains have not been heavy making guys settle for longer periods. Pastoralist should tell you about grazing cattle in river valleys during flash floods or sand harvesters getting caught by flash floods. The dams have actually helped the impact of flooding, what we should accept that 2018 has been an outlier- I may be wrong but its the wettest year in recorded history where nature comes to retrace its path. Cutting down trees and bushland has contributed to overland flow of water as it's not trapped enhancing the flooding. Hahaha. Watoto wa 844 kweli ni blunder
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,502 Location: nairobi
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shadowinvestor wrote:harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... It should be the 5 folks dam as the other 2 were never built. Having the dams all full is similar to having the Tana plus all other smaller tributaries and seasonal rivers flowing towards the Tana Delta. Abit of Geography- a delta is a generally flat area that floods during the rainy season- world over, it is not a new phenomenon. With the guys at Tana river, this should be a yearly migration to higher ground, it is just that last few years the rains have not been heavy making guys settle for longer periods. Pastoralist should tell you about grazing cattle in river valleys during flash floods or sand harvesters getting caught by flash floods. The dams have actually helped the impact of flooding, what we should accept that 2018 has been an outlier- I may be wrong but its the wettest year in recorded history where nature comes to retrace its path. Cutting down trees and bushland has contributed to overland flow of water as it's not trapped enhancing the flooding. Hahaha. Watoto wa 844 kweli ni blunder
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Escapism, another thing, the walls are very strong and the spill ways were built to release the pressure when the dams are full. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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The irony of all this is we were just dying the other day of ukame. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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shadowinvestor wrote:It should be the 5 folks dam as the other 2 were never built. Having the dams all full is similar to having the Tana plus all other smaller tributaries and seasonal rivers flowing towards the Tana Delta. Abit of Geography- a delta is a generally flat area that floods during the rainy season- world over, it is not a new phenomenon. With the guys at Tana river, this should be a yearly migration to higher ground, it is just that last few years the rains have not been heavy making guys settle for longer periods. Pastoralist should tell you about grazing cattle in river valleys during flash floods or sand harvesters getting caught by flash floods. The dams have actually helped the impact of flooding, what we should accept that 2018 has been an outlier- I may be wrong but its the wettest year in recorded history where nature comes to retrace its path. Cutting down trees and bushland has contributed to overland flow of water as it's not trapped enhancing the flooding. harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Njesu! Why seven Forks? You know a fork? The instrument we use for eating? It is a broad piece of metal with one end split into narrow sharp spikes.... Before they built Kindaruma power station, the Tan river had naturally split into seven forks that then rejoined back into one river near the place where the dam wall is now located. Those of us who were in school in the 1970s were taught that this dam is called "The Seven Forks Dam"....because it was built at the place where the river used to have 7 forks. That name gained popularity and when other dams were later built, they were all together named "Seven Forks Dams" The truth is that the name Seven Forks has nothing to do with the number of dams! It is the river that used to have 7 forks at the sit where Kindaruma now sits. Imagine if they now built a dam at 14 Falls on the Athi River. We might call it the 14 Falls dam...and later start talking about "The 14 Falls Complex" It wouldn't mean that there are 14 dams.... The Chinese 3-Gorges dam....
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2012 Posts: 139
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By the time we went to school, the forks were 5  chiaroscuro wrote:shadowinvestor wrote:It should be the 5 folks dam as the other 2 were never built. Having the dams all full is similar to having the Tana plus all other smaller tributaries and seasonal rivers flowing towards the Tana Delta. Abit of Geography- a delta is a generally flat area that floods during the rainy season- world over, it is not a new phenomenon. With the guys at Tana river, this should be a yearly migration to higher ground, it is just that last few years the rains have not been heavy making guys settle for longer periods. Pastoralist should tell you about grazing cattle in river valleys during flash floods or sand harvesters getting caught by flash floods. The dams have actually helped the impact of flooding, what we should accept that 2018 has been an outlier- I may be wrong but its the wettest year in recorded history where nature comes to retrace its path. Cutting down trees and bushland has contributed to overland flow of water as it's not trapped enhancing the flooding. harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Njesu! Why seven Forks? You know a fork? The instrument we use for eating? It is a broad piece of metal with one end split into narrow sharp spikes.... Before they built Kindaruma power station, the Tan river had naturally split into seven forks that then rejoined back into one river near the place where the dam wall is now located. Those of us who were in school in the 1970s were taught that this dam is called "The Seven Forks Dam"....because it was built at the place where the river used to have 7 forks. That name gained popularity and when other dams were later built, they were all together named "Seven Forks Dams" The truth is that the name Seven Forks has nothing to do with the number of dams! It is the river that used to have 7 forks at the sit where Kindaruma now sits. Imagine if they now built a dam at 14 Falls on the Athi River. We might call it the 14 Falls dam...and later start talking about "The 14 Falls Complex" It wouldn't mean that there are 14 dams.... The Chinese 3-Gorges dam....
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Yaani there were no 7 dams? Wacha nivute kiti nisome
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Too much sensationalism about the dam overflow mpaka chonolists are camping at the dam and reporting live. It's the height of stupidity.
They expected to see a huge tsunami moving downstream after the "overflow" and they seem to be very disappointed nothing dramatic has happened. They need to learn some science.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,502 Location: nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:Yaani there were no 7 dams? Wacha nivute kiti nisome lol
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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chiaroscuro wrote:shadowinvestor wrote:It should be the 5 folks dam as the other 2 were never built. Having the dams all full is similar to having the Tana plus all other smaller tributaries and seasonal rivers flowing towards the Tana Delta. Abit of Geography- a delta is a generally flat area that floods during the rainy season- world over, it is not a new phenomenon. With the guys at Tana river, this should be a yearly migration to higher ground, it is just that last few years the rains have not been heavy making guys settle for longer periods. Pastoralist should tell you about grazing cattle in river valleys during flash floods or sand harvesters getting caught by flash floods. The dams have actually helped the impact of flooding, what we should accept that 2018 has been an outlier- I may be wrong but its the wettest year in recorded history where nature comes to retrace its path. Cutting down trees and bushland has contributed to overland flow of water as it's not trapped enhancing the flooding. harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Njesu! Why seven Forks? You know a fork? The instrument we use for eating? It is a broad piece of metal with one end split into narrow sharp spikes.... Before they built Kindaruma power station, the Tan river had naturally split into seven forks that then rejoined back into one river near the place where the dam wall is now located. Those of us who were in school in the 1970s were taught that this dam is called "The Seven Forks Dam"....because it was built at the place where the river used to have 7 forks. That name gained popularity and when other dams were later built, they were all together named "Seven Forks Dams" The truth is that the name Seven Forks has nothing to do with the number of dams! It is the river that used to have 7 forks at the sit where Kindaruma now sits. Imagine if they now built a dam at 14 Falls on the Athi River. We might call it the 14 Falls dam...and later start talking about "The 14 Falls Complex" It wouldn't mean that there are 14 dams.... The Chinese 3-Gorges dam.... River Fork - A place where a river divides into several parts. In the case of Tana river, the river forks are the other smaller rivers that damp waters into the Tana - eg Sagana, Thika- (drain into Masinga dam), Thiba (drains into Gitaru), then after Kiambere there are rivers Mutonga, Rojwero, Thuci, Tula laga, Galole laga etc that just flow into the Tana uncontrollably. These rivers are responsible for the flooding when we hear of dams upstream being not full. The two dams, Grand falls & Mutonga are meant to regulate these rivers.  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:Too much sensationalism about the dam overflow mpaka chonolists are camping at the dam and reporting live. It's the height of stupidity.
They expected to see a huge tsunami moving downstream after the "overflow" and they seem to be very disappointed nothing dramatic has happened. They need to learn some science. Yes the media has no clue even in the reporting. They expected the Patel dam situation but in this case the water goes to pile up in Garissa and Garsen "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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hardwood wrote:Too much sensationalism about the dam overflow mpaka chonolists are camping at the dam and reporting live. It's the height of stupidity.
They expected to see a huge tsunami moving downstream after the "overflow" and they seem to be very disappointed nothing dramatic has happened. They need to learn some science. The drank in my local was today saying that the flooding can only happen if the inflow into the dam is of high magnitude and the quantity of inflow and outflow (flooding) are directly proportionate  The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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ZZE123 wrote:hardwood wrote:Too much sensationalism about the dam overflow mpaka chonolists are camping at the dam and reporting live. It's the height of stupidity.
They expected to see a huge tsunami moving downstream after the "overflow" and they seem to be very disappointed nothing dramatic has happened. They need to learn some science. The drank in my local was today saying that the flooding can only happen if the inflow into the dam is of high magnitude and the quantity of inflow and outflow (flooding) are directly proportionate In local jargon they are very right! ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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