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KenolKobil 2018 and beyond
VituVingiSana
#101 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2018 7:49:03 AM
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heri wrote:
@vvs, when will KK close the share register for dividends

I do not know. I will let you know when I find out.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#102 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:12:14 AM
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Tik tok 20
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#103 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 11:44:46 AM
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I am not a seller at 20. I think the EPS will exceed (ceteris paribus) 2.50 for 2018 now that the junk (KPRL, Segman) has been cleaned out in 2017.
I kept the faith smile in Ohana's stewardship. Now he needs to sell KK at 25+ Applause Applause Applause

It's a tough industry. I was also a fan of Segman but he became greedy with hedges. It's a travesty he got paid 700mn for running the firm down!
Ohana seems to have stayed away from hedging and does a lot of Inventory Management.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#104 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 11:47:27 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I am not a seller at 20. I think the EPS will exceed (ceteris paribus) 2.50 in 2018 now that the junk (KPRL, Segman) has been cleaned out in 2017.
I kept the faith ;-) in Ohana's stewardship. Now he needs to sell KK at 25+

Applause Applause you beat me in optimism ...on Kk your words are like a constitution
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#105 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 12:18:49 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I am not a seller at 20. I think the EPS will exceed (ceteris paribus) 2.50 in 2018 now that the junk (KPRL, Segman) has been cleaned out in 2017.
I kept the faith ;-) in Ohana's stewardship. Now he needs to sell KK at 25+

Applause Applause you beat me in optimism ...on Kk your words are like a constitution

Ceteris Paribus. If the prices of oil remain high, GoK may defer the VAT on fuel. It's about politics.
Fuel consumption is inelastic to a high degree. Folks will economize, make fewer trips, use more public transport, etc BUT the usage may reduce just not a huge drop.

KK is a strong player with a strong balance sheet and support from many financiers. I think smaller players will be squeezed out OR they will start evading taxes. This might be a good time for KK to pick up more stations to maintain (not grow) volumes.

My "predictions" (ceteris paribus) for 2018 which can easily turn out to be WRONG on KK
- Local (KE) volumes (fuel) will be maintained
- More local (KE) stations will be acquired/rebranded
- Growth in LPG volume sales
- Diluted EPS (with Ohana's 88mn (5%) share options) should be 2.50 [I hope for 2.75+ but the higher oil prices will hurt]
- Some issues/problems with the app. Teething problems.
- Increased financing costs driven by higher prices
- Loss in Burundi
- Breakeven to barely profitable in Ethiopia since KK has shed off many poorly performing stations.
- Net debt (loans less inventory) will not increase EXCEPT for an acquisition
- An acquisition may be announced in 2018 as KK has financiers lined up

EPS of 2.50 x 8 PER = 20 which is rather modest. It's not as much a bargain it was 1 year ago.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#106 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 6:58:09 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I am not a seller at 20. I think the EPS will exceed (ceteris paribus) 2.50 in 2018 now that the junk (KPRL, Segman) has been cleaned out in 2017.
I kept the faith ;-) in Ohana's stewardship. Now he needs to sell KK at 25+

Applause Applause you beat me in optimism ...on Kk your words are like a constitution


We believed this day will come, and it has. Thank you kk, thank you ohana.

Aly khan has tweeted about rajabaly brothers stake building to be behind this
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Angelica _ann
#107 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 7:29:12 PM
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Congrats guys on KK, you kept the faith from about 7 bob. It was patience at its best. Fundamentals don't lie!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
mlennyma
#108 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:21:57 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I am not a seller at 20. I think the EPS will exceed (ceteris paribus) 2.50 in 2018 now that the junk (KPRL, Segman) has been cleaned out in 2017.
I kept the faith ;-) in Ohana's stewardship. Now he needs to sell KK at 25+

Applause Applause you beat me in optimism ...on Kk your words are like a constitution


We believed this day will come, and it has. Thank you kk, thank you ohana.

Aly khan has tweeted about rajabaly brothers stake building to be behind this

who are this brothers? some details about them?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ericsson
#109 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:35:06 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Congrats guys on KK, you kept the faith from about 7 bob. It was patience at its best. Fundamentals don't lie!!!


Reverse gear in motion
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Wondergirl
#110 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:54:11 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Congrats guys on KK, you kept the faith from about 7 bob. It was patience at its best. Fundamentals don't lie!!!


Reverse gear in motion

Good.
Shaking off speculators, a new floor will be made.
smile I'm learning, but do I say....
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