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Capital gains tax to be increased from 5% to 20%
mikanjoroge
#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:03:33 AM
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Will bunge agree to pass this law?
How do you think this will affect property prices. Will sellers just transfer cost to buyer?
Will investors shy away from buying land and property?
Should I sell my shares before the effective date to avoid this 20% penalty? Is that why NSE index is on downward trend?

I also read elsewhere VAT is going up on fuel and unga. Is Gova too broke?

"If Parliament approves the far-reaching proposals, it could also see the capital gains tax rate rise from five per cent to 20 per cent.
..."

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/To...563732-1iefq6/index.html
Ericsson
#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:06:26 AM
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mikanjoroge wrote:
Will bunge agree to pass this law?
How do you think this will affect property prices. Will sellers just transfer cost to buyer?
Will investors shy away from buying land and property?
Should I sell my shares before the effective date to avoid this 20% penalty? Is that why NSE index is on downward trend?

I also read elsewhere VAT is going up on fuel and unga. Is Gova too broke?

"If Parliament approves the far-reaching proposals, it could also see the capital gains tax rate rise from five per cent to 20 per cent.
..."

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/To...563732-1iefq6/index.html


This law doesn't affect the NSE.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
KulaRaha
#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:31:09 AM
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Foolishness in desperation = KRA
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
mlennyma
#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:36:38 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Foolishness in desperation = KRA

Kenyans are alone nobody to defend them,you know the class who pocket the biggest chunks of the taxes are not wanjikus
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
whiteowl
#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:57:55 AM
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Frog in a boiling pot.When you agree to a new tax being introduced you've already lost the war.Govt can now crank it to 20%,30% and even 50% with little or no resistance.
Speculz
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:04:06 AM
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Wonder what will happen when KRA and treasury exhaust all this desperate measures to increase taxes, when the taxes we already pay are blatantly misused, those cheering for the 5% increase in PAYE taxation for high earners, don't forget KRA will eventually come for you in your bracket. Anyway forward will depend on a suitable environment for conducting business and not just on paper.
"You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
mnandii
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:11:48 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Foolishness in desperation = KRA

Kenyans are alone nobody to defend them,you know the class who pocket the biggest chunks of the taxes are not wanjikus


Add to this the fact that interest on the Chinese loans will increase significantly from July, Public servants to start paying pensions of 7.5% on their salaries in October, more Eurobond issues, corporate tax increases .....
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mlennyma
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:21:01 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
Frog in a boiling pot.When you agree to a new tax being introduced you've already lost the war.Govt can now crank it to 20%,30% and even 50% with little or no resistance.

Only one man could mount meaningful resistance but today he is moving with a convoy of high end cars and high security
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
wukan
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:25:02 AM
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Kenyans and their love of socialist freebies free education, free health care...serikali saidia plus the wasteful public service and political class.

To paraphrase the iron lady be careful asking the govt to do everything for you because one day it will take everything from you. You are cattle in the tax farm.
Ericsson
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:49:09 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
Frog in a boiling pot.When you agree to a new tax being introduced you've already lost the war.Govt can now crank it to 20%,30% and even 50% with little or no resistance.

Only one man could mount meaningful resistance but today he is moving with a convoy of high end cars and high security


Aka Tinga,Pamba
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
KulaRaha
#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:58:18 AM
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Where is the kumira kumira brigade?

Look what you have done.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
kawi254
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:11:01 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Where is the kumira kumira brigade?

Look what you have done.


Irregardless of who won debts will still have to be paid by taxes.

Dawa ya deni ni kulipa
KulaRaha
#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:20:22 AM
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kawi254 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Where is the kumira kumira brigade?

Look what you have done.


Irregardless of who won debts will still have to be paid by taxes.

Dawa ya deni ni kulipa


Kumira kumira!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
kayhara
#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:26:46 PM
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There is a limit to how much citizens are willing to pay tax, too little the government makes no money, too high and citizens abandon the item or service being taxed,GoK saw what happened with the earlier capital gains on shares, and the other tax on used cars and recently the tax on cheap liquor.
To Each His Own
murchr
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:30:38 PM
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kayhara wrote:
There is a limit to how much citizens are willing to pay tax, too little the government makes no money, too high and citizens abandon the item or service being taxed,GoK saw what happened with the earlier capital gains on shares, and the other tax on used cars and recently the tax on cheap liquor.


Njiraini has run out of ideas, he should retire this country is not short of people. KRA has come up with nothing substantive since Waweru.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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gatoho
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2018 6:52:53 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Where is the kumira kumira brigade?

Look what you have done.


Irregardless of who won debts will still have to be paid by taxes.

Dawa ya deni ni kulipa


Kumira kumira!


Blowing-your-nose Blowing-your-nose!!
Foresight..
mikanjoroge
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2018 10:29:49 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Where is the kumira kumira brigade?

Look what you have done.


Dealing with the new news and are speechless due to the Sonko-Miguna marriage shocker.
mulla
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2018 12:42:35 PM
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mikanjoroge wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Where is the kumira kumira brigade?

Look what you have done.


Dealing with the new news and are speechless due to the Sonko-Miguna marriage shocker.

If this marriage happens its a confirmation that this guy doesn't know what he is doing and is overwhelmed by the job...and to consider the sea of all the corporate types he could choose!!!
Metaur
#19 Posted : Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:40:16 PM
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Do you know any country in the world which have like 20% on capital gains ? Capital gains - means tax for rich people. I assume it will never be like that. Income, some county/state and sort of added sale tax is for rest of the world - poor ones, they will never do that I think, but let me know;)
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