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xxxxx		#161 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 11:36:08 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503		Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward.
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Juojo		#162 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 3:54:23 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/7/2009 Posts: 41		xxxxx wrote: Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward. very funny view there. 3 bob to print soon Happiness is not the absence of problems, It's the ability to deal with them
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murchr		#163 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 4:11:13 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		xxxxx wrote: Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward. What really went wrong with ARM? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Angelica _ann		#164 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 7:06:46 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935		murchr wrote: xxxxx wrote: Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward. What really went wrong with ARM? High/expensive debt, TZ manenos and competition!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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obiero		#165 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2018 7:37:32 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi		Angelica _ann wrote: murchr wrote: xxxxx wrote: Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward. What really went wrong with ARM? High/expensive debt, TZ manenos and competition!!! It's not only ARM suffering.. Our economy growth 'numbers' don't correspond with reality on the ground KQ ABP 4.26
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Juojo		#166 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2018 9:51:32 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/7/2009 Posts: 41		obiero wrote: Angelica _ann wrote: murchr wrote: xxxxx wrote: Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward. What really went wrong with ARM? High/expensive debt, TZ manenos and competition!!! It's not only ARM suffering.. Our economy growth 'numbers' don't correspond with reality on the ground I like the way we love to sugarcoat mismanagement with economy, mara competition. Let's also agree that CMA has let this country down. How can all this be happening right under their nose. Unless the are also in bed with these managers Happiness is not the absence of problems, It's the ability to deal with them
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Fyatu		#167 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2018 10:12:39 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru		Juojo wrote: obiero wrote: Angelica _ann wrote: murchr wrote: xxxxx wrote: Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward. What really went wrong with ARM? High/expensive debt, TZ manenos and competition!!! It's not only ARM suffering.. Our economy growth 'numbers' don't correspond with reality on the ground I like the way we love to sugarcoat mismanagement with economy, mara competition. Let's also agree that CMA has let this country down. How can all this be happening right under their nose. Unless the are also in bed with these managers You can say that again and again. We have seen listed companies give profit warnings a month to announcing results.Others like Centum have been reportng numbers based on revaluations etc. Others(e.g., Atlas) have shafted wanjiku(me) and disappeared without communication.CMA is either in bed with the CEO/directors of these rogue companies or they are totally incompetent. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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wukan		#168 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2018 10:31:50 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,654		Fyatu wrote: Juojo wrote: obiero wrote: Angelica _ann wrote: murchr wrote: xxxxx wrote: Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward. What really went wrong with ARM? High/expensive debt, TZ manenos and competition!!! It's not only ARM suffering.. Our economy growth 'numbers' don't correspond with reality on the ground I like the way we love to sugarcoat mismanagement with economy, mara competition. Let's also agree that CMA has let this country down. How can all this be happening right under their nose. Unless the are also in bed with these managers You can say that again and again. We have seen listed companies give profit warnings a month to announcing results.Others like Centum have been reportng numbers based on revaluations etc. Others(e.g., Atlas) have shafted wanjiku(me) and disappeared without communication.CMA is either in bed with the CEO/directors of these rogue companies or they are totally incompetent. CMA tried to flex with punishing the likes of Ciano and the courts sanitized them. You are on your own. The best is to follow wazua discussions, wazuans have a knack for calling bandia firms early enough. Pole to those left holding monkeys
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VituVingiSana		#169 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2018 11:34:03 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi		Juojo wrote: obiero wrote: Angelica _ann wrote: murchr wrote: xxxxx wrote: Ericsson wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: Ericsson wrote: Company dead https://www.businessdail...55484-1mjxhd/index.html More drama loading... Don't say you weren't warned I believe there is a serious COLONOSCOPY going on at ARM. The company will be much more viable investment going forward. What really went wrong with ARM? High/expensive debt, TZ manenos and competition!!! It's not only ARM suffering.. Our economy growth 'numbers' don't correspond with reality on the ground I like the way we love to sugarcoat mismanagement with economy, mara competition. Let's also agree that CMA has let this country down. How can all this be happening right under their nose. Unless the are also in bed with these managers CMA is not solely to blame. That "lethargy" comes from the top. Look at GoK's level of borrowing. $3bn Eurobond planned to pay off old loans! The total debt of GoK may hit KES 5,000,000,000,000 [5 Trillion] by 30th Dec 2018. Assume Kenya's population is 50mn so that's 100,000 per Kenyan! This includes the (currently) economically non-productive members of society eg kids, elderly folk. [BTW, I am not saying they are not economically important or anything of the sort just that those who can produce - working age and actively engaged in production - are a significantly smaller % of the population hence the debt per capita is effectively much higher]. GoK needs to reduce its borrowings while cutting down on waste. Nothing new. Look at the recent 10bn NYS scam. It just goes on and on. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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wukan		#170 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2018 11:56:34 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,654		VituVingiSana wrote: CMA is not solely to blame. That "lethargy" comes from the top. Look at GoK's level of borrowing. $3bn Eurobond planned to pay off old loans! The total debt of GoK may hit KES 5,000,000,000,000 [5 Trillion] by 30th Dec 2018. Assume Kenya's population is 50mn so that's 100,000 per Kenyan! This includes the (currently) economically non-productive members of society eg kids, elderly folk. [BTW, I am not saying they are not economically important or anything of the sort just that those who can produce - working age and actively engaged in production - are a significantly smaller % of the population hence the debt per capita is effectively much higher]. GoK needs to reduce its borrowings while cutting down on waste. Nothing new. Look at the recent 10bn NYS scam. It just goes on and on. Some time soon GoK will get to feel the kind of pain it has caused the private sector. It will be a nasty period but something has to give
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