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Patel Dam in Nakuru
Mtafiti
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 12:12:29 PM
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Pray Pray Pray . @Masukuma, safe?
Mukiri
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 1:21:53 PM
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Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated

Proverbs 19:21
masukuma
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 2:04:14 PM
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Mtafiti wrote:
Pray Pray Pray . @Masukuma, safe?

I am safe IN BAGHDAD smile
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
alma1
#4 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 2:40:04 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Mtafiti
#5 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 3:03:35 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Mtafiti wrote:
Pray Pray Pray . @Masukuma, safe?

I am safe IN BAGHDAD smile


Safe and Baghdad in one sentencesmile ? Keep safe anyway.

Over 30 dead!!
hardwood
#6 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 3:32:48 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.
masukuma
#7 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 3:59:41 PM
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Mtafiti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Mtafiti wrote:
Pray Pray Pray . @Masukuma, safe?

I am safe IN BAGHDAD smile


Safe and Baghdad in one sentencesmile ? Keep safe anyway.

Over 30 dead!!

Yes... you guys in AFRICA are dying from Ebola and burst dams!! smile
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
kawi254
#8 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 4:15:25 PM
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hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.


There are several dams in the farm. The one that burst is recent
murchr
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 4:32:37 PM
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Engineering and water management problem
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 4:36:02 PM
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kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.


There are several dams in the farm. The one that burst is recent



Must be this one. Coordinates on google maps -0.096924, 36.146400 . Seems like there was recent excavation, should be a recent dam at a high elevation.
hardwood
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 4:59:45 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.


There are several dams in the farm. The one that burst is recent



Must be this one. Coordinates on google maps -0.096924, 36.146400 . Seems like there was recent excavation, should be a recent dam at a high elevation.


Confirmed that it is the one....

murchr
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 5:01:12 PM
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If the elnino phenomenon develops are we going to be ready for the rains in November?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 5:01:21 PM
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hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.


There are several dams in the farm. The one that burst is recent



Must be this one. Coordinates on google maps -0.096924, 36.146400 . Seems like there was recent excavation, should be a recent dam at a high elevation.


These dams were once forest areas. Those homes people died in were once forest areas.

People like talking about Mau Forest. Take a walk in Subukia and see how tomatoes and french beans have taken over trees.

When Koigi Wa Wamwere was complaining about this dam, he was removed. By the very same people now complaining. He was called against development. Sasa ona. And they will still go to church on Sunday to pray.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 5:07:05 PM
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alma1 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.


There are several dams in the farm. The one that burst is recent



Must be this one. Coordinates on google maps -0.096924, 36.146400 . Seems like there was recent excavation, should be a recent dam at a high elevation.


These dams were once forest areas. Those homes people died in were once forest areas.

People like talking about Mau Forest. Take a walk in Subukia and see how tomatoes and french beans have taken over trees.

When Koigi Wa Wamwere was complaining about this dam, he was removed. By the very same people now complaining. He was called against development. Sasa ona. And they will still go to church on Sunday to pray.


Wacha uwongo we were not born yesterday
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
alma1
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 5:14:08 PM
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murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.


There are several dams in the farm. The one that burst is recent



Must be this one. Coordinates on google maps -0.096924, 36.146400 . Seems like there was recent excavation, should be a recent dam at a high elevation.


These dams were once forest areas. Those homes people died in were once forest areas.

People like talking about Mau Forest. Take a walk in Subukia and see how tomatoes and french beans have taken over trees.

When Koigi Wa Wamwere was complaining about this dam, he was removed. By the very same people now complaining. He was called against development. Sasa ona. And they will still go to church on Sunday to pray.


Wacha uwongo we were not born yesterday


Endeleeni kukata miti ovyo ovyo tu. Na mundelee kujenga mademu ovyo ovyo.

Ngojeni serekal iwasaidie.

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hardwood
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 5:47:12 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.


There are several dams in the farm. The one that burst is recent



Must be this one. Coordinates on google maps -0.096924, 36.146400 . Seems like there was recent excavation, should be a recent dam at a high elevation.


These dams were once forest areas. Those homes people died in were once forest areas.

People like talking about Mau Forest. Take a walk in Subukia and see how tomatoes and french beans have taken over trees.

When Koigi Wa Wamwere was complaining about this dam, he was removed. By the very same people now complaining. He was called against development. Sasa ona. And they will still go to church on Sunday to pray.


Wacha uwongo we were not born yesterday


Endeleeni kukata miti ovyo ovyo tu. Na mundelee kujenga mademu ovyo ovyo.

Ngojeni serekal iwasaidie.



@alma: Even our ancestors/fore fathers used to live in forests as hunter gatherers or practicing slash and burn the forest agriculture. That said this is purely an engineering issue. Patel may have been very greedy to store all the water and let very little into the spill-way causing the dam (barrier) to collapse due to the weight/force of the water.
Mukiri
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:04:26 PM
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hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Guys already baying for his blood citing dam location irregularly allocated


It's very easy to point a finger to the Muindi.

The amount of trees that people have destroyed in the past 30 years is mind boggling. I can attest to money changing hands daily so that more trees can be cut.

Very unfortunate incident. Even more unfortunate to make it a racist issue. It's a Kenyan tabia issue. From corruption all the way to destroying any tree you can lay your hand on.

Sad


But the dam has been there since colonial times.


There are several dams in the farm. The one that burst is recent



Must be this one. Coordinates on google maps -0.096924, 36.146400 . Seems like there was recent excavation, should be a recent dam at a high elevation.


These dams were once forest areas. Those homes people died in were once forest areas.

People like talking about Mau Forest. Take a walk in Subukia and see how tomatoes and french beans have taken over trees.

When Koigi Wa Wamwere was complaining about this dam, he was removed. By the very same people now complaining. He was called against development. Sasa ona. And they will still go to church on Sunday to pray.


Wacha uwongo we were not born yesterday


Endeleeni kukata miti ovyo ovyo tu. Na mundelee kujenga mademu ovyo ovyo.

Ngojeni serekal iwasaidie.



@alma: Even our ancestors/fore fathers used to live in forests as hunter gatherers or practicing slash and burn the forest agriculture. That said this is purely an engineering issue. Patel may have been very greedy to store all the water and let very little into the spill-way causing the dam (barrier) to collapse due to the weight/force of the water.

Yes. There are complaints of water hoarding, but proponents say that Gideon Moi had tapped water for all and sundry... Which makes me wonder, kwani this area is a beneficiary of how many people? What makes it a focus of so much 'help'? Looks like predominantly Kaleo

Proverbs 19:21
murchr
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:06:21 PM
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"I want to prepare Kenyans mentally that the magnitude of the tragedy is huge. The teams are likely to recover and retrieve more bodies from the debris and mud," Matiang'i told Citizen TV at Wilson.

SAD
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
hardwood
#19 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:00:51 PM
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murchr wrote:
"I want to prepare Kenyans mentally that the magnitude of the tragedy is huge. The teams are likely to recover and retrieve more bodies from the debris and mud," Matiang'i told Citizen TV at Wilson.

SAD


True. The "tsunami" was 500m wide and traveled 10km downstream sweeping through villages at 7.30pm when most were indoors.
hardwood
#20 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:08:12 PM
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The killer dam.....looks very jua kali no wonder it caved in.


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