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Pesa Nane wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:@pesa 8, you sold grudgingly at 15,  we saved your skin boss!!! Idiot is right back @6.60 Kobole(corner saba) has printed Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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sparkly wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:@pesa 8, you sold grudgingly at 15,  we saved your skin boss!!! Idiot is right back @6.60 Almost got back jana @+7 lakini I asked & was warned not to try. Let me wait kidogo. Tempted!!! Technically insolvent. Anyone buying should be ready for further dilution by debt conversions and new share issues. 5.85 Prints, i escaped 2nd massacre In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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mnandii wrote:THE POWER OF ELLIOTT WAVES AND SOCIONOMICS
  If you study carefully the two charts/images and especially between the years 2007 - 2012 you'll come to appreciate the unique qualities of Elliott Waves and Socionomics. But that is only if you don't get blinded by the economics literature you have studied and come to accept as default. Also, your primitive brain (this is a scientific word, sio matusi) aka basal ganglia can blind you from seeing and accepting this evidence of superiority of Elliott. So, this is how it goes: Btw 2007 -2009, the Safcom price chart shows the stock price was falling in value. The same thing(falling profits) is shown in the Profits chart (it is subtle and you may need to look closely). Btw 2009 - 2010 the stock price rose in value to about 6/=. The same goes for profits which shows a bump in 2010. Btw 2010 -2012 again Safcom price fell in price to about 3/=. The profits mirrored this by falling in value btw 2010 -2012. Another interesting thing here is that the profits in 2012 is higher than that in 2009. That implies Elliott's 1st rule that second waves can never fall below the start of first waves. As can be seen from the price chart, blue wave 2 never fell below the start of blue wave 1. From 2012 to presently in 2018 the share price of Safcom has risen dramatically. The profits have risen in tandem with the share price. From the evidence, it is important to also notice that the share price rose/fell first before the profits increased/decreased. This means that you can/should use the share price to predict the direction of the profits. Those who call themselves fundamental analysts do the opposite - like what they are doing right now, trying to figure out from the financials where the price of safcom share should go next. This approach (fundamental analysis) is defeatist. Learn Elliott, apply the rules rigorously (they are only three rules) and see yourself succeed at forecasting much better than even university professors in economics. What you call Socioeconomics in essence is, the fundamental analysis. They are mutually exclusive. If a company's fundamentals flop, it doesn't really matter what TA you come up with, it could be just one marubozu, and case closed. That, and sometimes TA is not picture perfect. When applying it historically, one can force it, however real-time, you need fundies. Fib can give target points, but a break-out is in essence governed by FA
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mnandii wrote:THE POWER OF ELLIOTT WAVES AND SOCIONOMICS
  If you study carefully the two charts/images and especially between the years 2007 - 2012 you'll come to appreciate the unique qualities of Elliott Waves and Socionomics. But that is only if you don't get blinded by the economics literature you have studied and come to accept as default. Also, your primitive brain (this is a scientific word, sio matusi) aka basal ganglia can blind you from seeing and accepting this evidence of superiority of Elliott. So, this is how it goes: Btw 2007 -2009, the Safcom price chart shows the stock price was falling in value. The same thing(falling profits) is shown in the Profits chart (it is subtle and you may need to look closely). Btw 2009 - 2010 the stock price rose in value to about 6/=. The same goes for profits which shows a bump in 2010. Btw 2010 -2012 again Safcom price fell in price to about 3/=. The profits mirrored this by falling in value btw 2010 -2012. Another interesting thing here is that the profits in 2012 is higher than that in 2009. That implies Elliott's 1st rule that second waves can never fall below the start of first waves. As can be seen from the price chart, blue wave 2 never fell below the start of blue wave 1. From 2012 to presently in 2018 the share price of Safcom has risen dramatically. The profits have risen in tandem with the share price. From the evidence, it is important to also notice that the share price rose/fell first before the profits increased/decreased. This means that you can/should use the share price to predict the direction of the profits. Those who call themselves fundamental analysts do the opposite - like what they are doing right now, trying to figure out from the financials where the price of safcom share should go next. This approach (fundamental analysis) is defeatist. Learn Elliott, apply the rules rigorously (they are only three rules) and see yourself succeed at forecasting much better than even university professors in economics. All done after the fact. WB doesn't believe in Charts but fundamentals including good governance. Which chartist comes close to WB? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana wrote:mnandii wrote:THE POWER OF ELLIOTT WAVES AND SOCIONOMICS
  If you study carefully the two charts/images and especially between the years 2007 - 2012 you'll come to appreciate the unique qualities of Elliott Waves and Socionomics. But that is only if you don't get blinded by the economics literature you have studied and come to accept as default. Also, your primitive brain (this is a scientific word, sio matusi) aka basal ganglia can blind you from seeing and accepting this evidence of superiority of Elliott. So, this is how it goes: Btw 2007 -2009, the Safcom price chart shows the stock price was falling in value. The same thing(falling profits) is shown in the Profits chart (it is subtle and you may need to look closely). Btw 2009 - 2010 the stock price rose in value to about 6/=. The same goes for profits which shows a bump in 2010. Btw 2010 -2012 again Safcom price fell in price to about 3/=. The profits mirrored this by falling in value btw 2010 -2012. Another interesting thing here is that the profits in 2012 is higher than that in 2009. That implies Elliott's 1st rule that second waves can never fall below the start of first waves. As can be seen from the price chart, blue wave 2 never fell below the start of blue wave 1. From 2012 to presently in 2018 the share price of Safcom has risen dramatically. The profits have risen in tandem with the share price. From the evidence, it is important to also notice that the share price rose/fell first before the profits increased/decreased. This means that you can/should use the share price to predict the direction of the profits. Those who call themselves fundamental analysts do the opposite - like what they are doing right now, trying to figure out from the financials where the price of safcom share should go next. This approach (fundamental analysis) is defeatist. Learn Elliott, apply the rules rigorously (they are only three rules) and see yourself succeed at forecasting much better than even university professors in economics. All done after the fact. WB doesn't believe in Charts but fundamentals including good governance. Which chartist comes close to WB? Soros. Buffet is all about accumulating and never spending. Living frugal like a miser. What is money (and the process of building wealth) if you can't have a little fun?
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VituVingiSana wrote:mnandii wrote:THE POWER OF ELLIOTT WAVES AND SOCIONOMICS
  If you study carefully the two charts/images and especially between the years 2007 - 2012 you'll come to appreciate the unique qualities of Elliott Waves and Socionomics. But that is only if you don't get blinded by the economics literature you have studied and come to accept as default. Also, your primitive brain (this is a scientific word, sio matusi) aka basal ganglia can blind you from seeing and accepting this evidence of superiority of Elliott. So, this is how it goes: Btw 2007 -2009, the Safcom price chart shows the stock price was falling in value. The same thing(falling profits) is shown in the Profits chart (it is subtle and you may need to look closely). Btw 2009 - 2010 the stock price rose in value to about 6/=. The same goes for profits which shows a bump in 2010. Btw 2010 -2012 again Safcom price fell in price to about 3/=. The profits mirrored this by falling in value btw 2010 -2012. Another interesting thing here is that the profits in 2012 is higher than that in 2009. That implies Elliott's 1st rule that second waves can never fall below the start of first waves. As can be seen from the price chart, blue wave 2 never fell below the start of blue wave 1. From 2012 to presently in 2018 the share price of Safcom has risen dramatically. The profits have risen in tandem with the share price. From the evidence, it is important to also notice that the share price rose/fell first before the profits increased/decreased. This means that you can/should use the share price to predict the direction of the profits. Those who call themselves fundamental analysts do the opposite - like what they are doing right now, trying to figure out from the financials where the price of safcom share should go next. This approach (fundamental analysis) is defeatist. Learn Elliott, apply the rules rigorously (they are only three rules) and see yourself succeed at forecasting much better than even university professors in economics. All done after the fact. WB doesn't believe in Charts but fundamentals including good governance. Which chartist comes close to WB? I have not changed any data in the charts. Do check yourself. Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Unfortunately the fundamentalists who are trying argue their case now conveniently avoid the facts as availed in the charts. Why? The question is simple , do you see any correlation btw the price chart and the performance of the company. If a fundamentalist can answer this clearly without any unnecessary details then thumbs up to you. Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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mnandii wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:mnandii wrote:THE POWER OF ELLIOTT WAVES AND SOCIONOMICS
  If you study carefully the two charts/images and especially between the years 2007 - 2012 you'll come to appreciate the unique qualities of Elliott Waves and Socionomics. But that is only if you don't get blinded by the economics literature you have studied and come to accept as default. Also, your primitive brain (this is a scientific word, sio matusi) aka basal ganglia can blind you from seeing and accepting this evidence of superiority of Elliott. So, this is how it goes: Btw 2007 -2009, the Safcom price chart shows the stock price was falling in value. The same thing(falling profits) is shown in the Profits chart (it is subtle and you may need to look closely). Btw 2009 - 2010 the stock price rose in value to about 6/=. The same goes for profits which shows a bump in 2010. Btw 2010 -2012 again Safcom price fell in price to about 3/=. The profits mirrored this by falling in value btw 2010 -2012. Another interesting thing here is that the profits in 2012 is higher than that in 2009. That implies Elliott's 1st rule that second waves can never fall below the start of first waves. As can be seen from the price chart, blue wave 2 never fell below the start of blue wave 1. From 2012 to presently in 2018 the share price of Safcom has risen dramatically. The profits have risen in tandem with the share price. From the evidence, it is important to also notice that the share price rose/fell first before the profits increased/decreased. This means that you can/should use the share price to predict the direction of the profits. Those who call themselves fundamental analysts do the opposite - like what they are doing right now, trying to figure out from the financials where the price of safcom share should go next. This approach (fundamental analysis) is defeatist. Learn Elliott, apply the rules rigorously (they are only three rules) and see yourself succeed at forecasting much better than even university professors in economics. WB doesn't believe in Charts but fundamentals including good governance. Which chartist comes close to WB? I have not changed any data in the charts. Do check yourself. They are not noisy but busy doing more meaningful research. Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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Quote: What you call Socioeconomics in essence is, the fundamental analysis. They are mutually exclusive. If a company's fundamentals flop, it doesn't really matter what TA you come up with, it could be just one marubozu, and case closed. That, and sometimes TA is not picture perfect. When applying it historically, one can force it, however real-time, you need fundies. Fib can give target points, but a break-out is in essence governed by FA
You could do well to point any data that has been forced as you claim. Please note that the data I use I did not generate. Both the price chart and the profit figures are publicly available data. What I have done is to put them in context - which is what Elliott is all about. Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,350 Location: Nairobi
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mnandii wrote:Unfortunately the fundamentalists who are trying argue their case now conveniently avoid the facts as availed in the charts. Why? The question is simple , do you see any correlation btw the price chart and the performance of the company. If a fundamentalist can answer this clearly without any unnecessary details then thumbs up to you. In the longer term, ceteris paribus, the share price follows profits/performance. These short term variations mean little. Anyway, different strokes... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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