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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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With the number of suicide on the rise, is euthanasia a consideration? Last year, it is said over 800,000 people committed suicide. But that's not why I'm starting this but because of Australian, David Goodall. He is set to die tomorrow through euthanasia in Switzerland where it is legal. The man is 104 years and he says his life lost meaning in 1997. At 104, I think someone has earned the right to decide on their life, they are not teenagers. Currently, the British parliament is discussing legalizing euthanasia. Sadly, it can be open to abuse like in Belgium where 6% of the deaths are through euthanasia. What are your thoughts?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:With the number of suicide on the rise, is euthanasia a consideration? Last year, it is said over 800,000 people committed suicide.
But that's not why I'm starting this but because of Australian, David Goodall. He is set to die tomorrow through euthanasia in Switzerland where it is legal. The man is 104 years and he says his life lost meaning in 1997. At 104, I think someone has earned the right to decide on their life, they are not teenagers.
Currently, the British parliament is discussing legalizing euthanasia. Sadly, it can be open to abuse like in Belgium where 6% of the deaths are through euthanasia. What are your thoughts? Waigua niuguthie... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:With the number of suicide on the rise, is euthanasia a consideration? Last year, it is said over 800,000 people committed suicide.
But that's not why I'm starting this but because of Australian, David Goodall. He is set to die tomorrow through euthanasia in Switzerland where it is legal. The man is 104 years and he says his life lost meaning in 1997. At 104, I think someone has earned the right to decide on their life, they are not teenagers.
Currently, the British parliament is discussing legalizing euthanasia. Sadly, it can be open to abuse like in Belgium where 6% of the deaths are through euthanasia. What are your thoughts? Waigua niuguthie...  waigua niuguthie, withiere... Wehererie adu mathiina...
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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With valid reasons, it is a great initiative. There are terminally ill patients going through immense physical pain with no hope of turn around. In such instances, it should be accepted. Great care must however suffice to avoid its exploitation by people going through rough life patches. adolescent teenagers could abuse it, people going through divorce or in rough marriages, jobless people, etc..... Goodall should write some memoirs to shed light on his feelings in the next few hours before lights go out on him.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,703
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I guess some things are done for publicity. A man has the strength to enter a plane and travel from Australia to Switzerland lakini ameshindwa kukunywa dawa ya munanda (cattle dip). A simple google search can also yield very many results showing ways of doing it yourself. There is no law that prevents anyone who genuinely wants to die from killing himself.
Dying is one of the least complicated things to do. You do not need a doctor or a clinic. In the hospital all you need to do is give the instructions "DO NOT RESUSCITATE" and when the time come you go in peace without making a fuss. Watu huwa wanawekelea madaktari kazi za ujinga.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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Kusadikika wrote:I guess some things are done for publicity. A man has the strength to enter a plane and travel from Australia to Switzerland lakini ameshindwa kukunywa dawa ya munanda (cattle dip). A simple google search can also yield very many results showing ways of doing it yourself. There is no law that prevents anyone who genuinely wants to die from killing himself.
Dying is one of the least complicated things to do. You do not need a doctor or a clinic. In the hospital all you need to do is give the instructions "DO NOT RESUSCITATE" and when the time come you go in peace without making a fuss. Watu huwa wanawekelea madaktari kazi za ujinga. He hasn't been a good student with his several suicide attempts Quote:In recent years, Dr Goodall's physical condition has continued to deteriorate along with his quality of life and, after several attempts to end his own life in the past 12 months, the 104-year-old decided to travel to Switzerland where voluntary assisted dying is legal.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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There are no surprises left. A living man telling another, not to come for his funeral, denotes a man who knows when and how he'll go out. McCain has told Trump not to attend his funeral. Me thinks he'll also dictate how he goes out. It is a sad day when life becomes more of pain than pleasure. That notwithstanding, it is He who gave you life that should have the ultimate say of when to snuff it out. We can't play God, even with our own lives!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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I support DNR and Euthanasia. It is humane. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:With the number of suicide on the rise, is euthanasia a consideration? Last year, it is said over 800,000 people committed suicide.
But that's not why I'm starting this but because of Australian, David Goodall. He is set to die tomorrow through euthanasia in Switzerland where it is legal. The man is 104 years and he says his life lost meaning in 1997. At 104, I think someone has earned the right to decide on their life, they are not teenagers.
Currently, the British parliament is discussing legalizing euthanasia. Sadly, it can be open to abuse like in Belgium where 6% of the deaths are through euthanasia. What are your thoughts? All this is the vacuity of a world view of despair. 1. 'Because many people commit suicide, then it should be legalized and given a euphemism.' Because morality has become a matter of polls, then human life too has become subject not just to the polls, but to the powers of the state. Clearly, this is an abrogation of the bill of rights! 2. 'There's such an age when one loses the meaning of life'. Clearly this is another falsehood. The meaning of life is lost when the forces acting upon us and the fields in which we engage are uninspiring. Thus the problem here is one of the worlds we have created as much as the worldviews of the creators. This clamor for the state's approval for death is the worst thing a free and responsible citizenship can do.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:I support DNR and Euthanasia. It is humane. Sounds like a line from the 'Animal farm'.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Kayhara, I understand some of what is being said in the videos and posts here.
Can you imagine that I've lived on the edge of killing myself for almost three decades?
But everyday I find healing.
I know that one of these coming days I may find myself against the state. And I've already started my death meditation.
But on that fateful day it will be the state that shall kill me. It shall be a day when the state shall commit a crime against me and itself.
In both videos that you've provided, we see of cases of depression and mental disorder being mentioned. From my experience this is to be expected, because our states have very oppressive mental health laws and ideas.
And the sad part is that we can hardly see that all this suicide and desire to die is a result of oppression from and by our states.
Pain is conquerable, but we live in a world that idolizes it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Is Goodall still with us?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2009 Posts: 130
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2012 wrote:Is Goodall still with us? http://bit.ly/2rACehI
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