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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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NOT buying SCOM at IPO thinking it was way overpriced and the number of shares (billions and billions if I remember correctly) were way too massive for my comfort. Looking back I should have bought up whatever my allotment would have been and then on the first day of trading, buy daily until I exhausted all my available funds, then just sit and hold for the next 50 years. Of course hindsight is always 20-20. Who knew a little company that helped you send money by phone and make calls would turn into a monster of a behemoth that literally powers Kenya.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/22/2015 Posts: 224 Location: Mombasa, Kenya
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 Laughing coz I can relate. #Murphy'slaw Start!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/22/2015 Posts: 224 Location: Mombasa, Kenya
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MugundaMan wrote:NOT buying SCOM at IPO thinking it was way overpriced and the number of shares (billions and billions if I remember correctly) were way too massive for my comfort. Looking back I should have bought up whatever my allotment would have been and then on the first day of trading, buy daily until I exhausted all my available funds, then just sit and hold for the next 50 years. Of course hindsight is always 20-20. Who knew a little company that helped you send money by phone and make calls would turn into a monster of a behemoth that literally powers Kenya. To be fair to you Mugundaman, who knew? So what did you invest in instead of Safaricom and how did that go? Start!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Metch wrote:
To be fair to you Mugundaman, who knew?
So what did you invest in instead of Safaricom and how did that go?
True @ Metch. Bought ICDC when it was still called ICDC and trading in the single digits (yes!). Doubled my money and sold off thinking I was a genius. Wapi? It too continued to soar like blazes to the point I just had to get back in. That was around the time it started getting into all these crazy numbers of joint ventures that were increasing its NAV big time each year. Then came the rebrand into Centum, the announcements about Amu Power and a host of other pipeline projects. Come to think of it selling off before it exploded in value (and pipeline projects) was yet another one of my biggest regrets. Then again who knew the scale of projects and joint ventures that were to come. Moral of the story seems if you buy into a solid (in Kenya read politically connected and -hopefully- well managed company) early just go sleep, do other things, vacation in Turkana, etc for about 10 years+ without pulling the trigger on the stock. I call it the Kibunga Kamau investing strategy. Does not take a rocket scientist (or God forbid a chartist/TA guy) to accomplish.
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Rank: Hello Joined: 4/19/2018 Posts: 7 Location: Nairobi
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Buying KPLC at 15 and then at 10bob, I have not sold the shares yet but am thinking of cashing out at a loss
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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Edwin Smith wrote:Buying KPLC at 15 and then at 10bob, I have not sold the shares yet but am thinking of cashing out at a loss Wow. MSC, plus KPLC.. Truly you have gotten the short end of the stick at NSE, but do not loose hope there is money to be made in the market, just depends on information! The one with the least information will always fall short in market asymmetry law
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/14/2013 Posts: 20 Location: Copenhagen
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I once bought big quantity of Britam at 32 and the price went down so much within less than a year. I offloaded them at 25 after a year of anticipation of price surge without any success Problems can be very complicated, solutions cannot be.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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nyakosh wrote:I once bought big quantity of Britam at 32 and the price went down so much within less than a year. I offloaded them at 25 after a year of anticipation of price surge without any success @nyakosh it happens to the best of us.. take heart and solace in the fact that it could have been worse
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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nyakosh wrote:I once bought big quantity of Britam at 32 and the price went down so much within less than a year. I offloaded them at 25 after a year of anticipation of price surge without any success @nyakosh it happens to the best of us.. take heart and solace in the fact that it could have been worse
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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nyakosh wrote:I once bought big quantity of Britam at 32 and the price went down so much within less than a year. I offloaded them at 25 after a year of anticipation of price surge without any success @nyakosh it happens to the best of us.. take heart and solace in the fact that it could have been worse
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/11/2014 Posts: 72 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Edwin Smith wrote:Buying KPLC at 15 and then at 10bob, I have not sold the shares yet but am thinking of cashing out at a loss Wow. MSC, plus KPLC.. Truly you have gotten the short end of the stick at NSE, but do not loose hope there is money to be made in the market, just depends on information! The one with the least information will always fall short in market asymmetry law Sure thing Bulls make money,bears make money and pigs get slaughtered.
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Rank: Hello Joined: 4/19/2018 Posts: 7 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Edwin Smith wrote:Buying KPLC at 15 and then at 10bob, I have not sold the shares yet but am thinking of cashing out at a loss Wow. MSC, plus KPLC.. Truly you have gotten the short end of the stick at NSE, but do not loose hope there is money to be made in the market, just depends on information! The one with the least information will always fall short in market asymmetry law Those two were bad but the good thing is they were like 20% of my investment. KCB, Equity and Safaricom levels out the loss in a big way.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2009 Posts: 256
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Not knowing when to quit time and again:
MSC-left with a 25% loss (170K) in 2013, having accumulated from 2005.
KQ-left with a 40% loss (117K) in 2011 after mistakenly betting on the 2010 World Cup in SA to lift their profitability and share price. Naikuni couldn't turn that windfall into profits.
CARB-passed up an opportunity to cash in when it was at its highest in 2014 following a bonus and split. It started falling soon after in 2015 and has never recovered.
KPLC-Decided to hang on to Mama Ngina's coat tails when she boarded in 2013, thinking her influence would benefit all the shareholders. If I was to bail out today, I would incur a 30% loss (117K)
These days I closely follow the counsel from @vvs and other FAs in Wazua. No more GoK stocks and most of the so called "growth stocks" for me, except KK. Focusing mainly on dividend yields.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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Monk wrote:Not knowing when to quit time and again:
MSC-left with a 25% loss (170K) in 2013, having accumulated from 2005.
KQ-left with a 40% loss (117K) in 2011 after mistakenly betting on the 2010 World Cup in SA to lift their profitability and share price. Naikuni couldn't turn that windfall into profits.
CARB-passed up an opportunity to cash in when it was at its highest in 2014 following a bonus and split. It started falling soon after in 2015 and has never recovered.
KPLC-Decided to hang on to Mama Ngina's coat tails when she boarded in 2013, thinking her influence would benefit all the shareholders. If I was to bail out today, I would incur a 30% loss (117K)
These days I closely follow the counsel from @vvs and other FAs in Wazua. No more GoK stocks and most of the so called "growth stocks" for me, except KK. Focusing mainly on dividend yields.
Pole sana, but hope is eternal. My average buy price on KQ is KES 24.2; if I were to sell KQ today, I would be KES 976,000 in the red. Sema hasara! But im not making any false/early moves until I read the Open Offer circular
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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obiero wrote:winmak wrote:obiero wrote:More confessions are needed.. Its good for the soul. Only hope that KQ doesn't become my testimony soon It will... SHINDWE! KQ will make you poor as market makers prey on you...Only market makers mint money on trading KQ. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 503
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Still holding on to my ARM cement shares. I've seen the prices tumble from an all time high of Ksh 90 to the current low levels of 7 bob. Can't sell now so I might as well stay in for another 5 years.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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deadpoet wrote:Still holding on to my ARM cement shares. I've seen the prices tumble from an all time high of Ksh 90 to the current low levels of 7 bob. Can't sell now so I might as well stay in for another 5 years. What's your entry price? John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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deadpoet wrote:Still holding on to my ARM cement shares. I've seen the prices tumble from an all time high of Ksh 90 to the current low levels of 7 bob. Can't sell now so I might as well stay in for another 5 years. What's your entry price? John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 503
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Spikes wrote:deadpoet wrote:Still holding on to my ARM cement shares. I've seen the prices tumble from an all time high of Ksh 90 to the current low levels of 7 bob. Can't sell now so I might as well stay in for another 5 years. What's your entry price? 44 bob post-split.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:winmak wrote:obiero wrote:More confessions are needed.. Its good for the soul. Only hope that KQ doesn't become my testimony soon It will... SHINDWE! KQ will make you poor as market makers prey on you...Only market makers mint money on trading KQ. Only a poor man fears poverty. Once you know how to make money, such thoughts are banished
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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