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SGR Progress thus far
hardwood
#1191 Posted : Saturday, March 24, 2018 9:43:50 PM
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Many many yrs ago in Europe when the first railways were being built there was alot of opposition from horse owners who had dominated the transport industry. They argued that the new railway was expensive and would never make a profit. That what the cargo industry needed were stronger and faster horses not expensive railways. Also that the reli was inefficient coz the horse could move cargo from the harbour/docks to a customers doorstep which the reli couldn't do.
Fast forward. It's the reli that pushed Europe to the first world.

So what will our kids be saying 50yrs from now about our decision to build the SGR? Will they say we should have invested in "stronger horses"? What if our parents had built the sgr 30yrs ago .... now we would be talking about bullet trains between mbs and Nairobi like they have in Germany and japan.

FYI the sgr is being funded by the railway development levy charged on all imports. This means the sgr will be fully paid for even if it doesnt move even a single kg of cargo.

Also note that mzungu wants Africa to remain unspoilt/undeveloped so that when he tours Africa he finds an exotic place forgotten in time, the way the early explorers and colonists found it. That is why the lunatic express is so popular to mzungu. No wonder the prevalence of articles in the msungu media like The Economist rubishing the new reli.
hardwood
#1192 Posted : Saturday, March 24, 2018 10:13:07 PM
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KIFWA, the union for cargo agents and forwarders is on record as saying that they would rather die than use sgr.... even if it was free. That they would rather make sure the customer pays the usual 80k to move a container by road from mbs to nrb than use a free sgr. So this sgr cargo is just about vested interests and not economics. The agents in mbs and cfs want to keep their jobs and business and that's why they are trying to frustrate the sgr. The gov't should deal with this issue the way it dealt with the oil transport issue. The gov't built a pipeline and ordered that all oil be transported via the pipeline. The oil clearing agents had to move from mbs to nairobi, nakuru, eld, kisumu. The same should happen to all other cargo. Kenyans are tired of paying for destruction caused to the road by all those trucks on mbs road. Not to mention the terrible traffic jams and accidents caused by cargo trucks.
hardwood
#1193 Posted : Sunday, April 01, 2018 2:16:48 AM
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The future looks bright. Hope they pass the savings to customers. let those resisting the sgr continue resisting....and paying more.

https://www.businessdail...014-11y82jwz/index.html

SGR boost as top logistics firm loads train full of cargo

Quote:
Efforts to promote the use of the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) got a boost Thursday when a fully loaded train ferrying goods belonging to a leading logistics firm left Mombasa for Nairobi amid calls for more importers to use the service.

Bollore Transport and Logistics ferried 108 Twenty-Foot Equivalent Unit (TEUs) containers to the Inland Container Depot in Nairobi.

The firm’s managing director Jean-Pascal Naud, speaking during the loading of cargo said the train is efficient, cost effective and secure.

On Thursday Mr Naud claimed that by using the SGR, importers were saving about Sh40,000 on a round trip after the freight cost cut.
Julie
#1194 Posted : Sunday, April 01, 2018 7:34:52 AM
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Remind me what day it is
masukuma
#1195 Posted : Sunday, April 01, 2018 10:05:50 AM
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I think it's important to build railways - regardless of whether it makes sense now. the truth is even the first railway in kenya was highly opposed... that's why it was named the lunatic express.
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Siringi
#1196 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2018 6:22:05 PM
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My take if i was Ouru:

Fire people at the ministry of Transport and hire competent experts to specifically run with the SGR.
Lots of incompetence kwa mfano

Kenya Railways Board, Bandari KPA port

i will hire competent board of directors made up established industry mandarins wenye wana geneuine interest of this country no tenderpreneurs at the mercy of the minister.

Have in place interministerial task force reporting to me in person

Ni hayo tu.

Are there containers leaving Nairobi to Mombasa by road... ?
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Siringi
#1197 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2018 6:11:38 PM
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Kenya-Railways-opts-for-conference-to-put-cargo-trains-on track

Classical case of Which comes first the egg or the hen. Engagement of stakeholder should have done way before the first sleeper was laid. “Anyways better never than late ...” was it Mulili ... incompetence shall be the bane of our country
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hardwood
#1198 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2018 7:21:35 PM
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Siringi wrote:
Kenya-Railways-opts-for-conference-to-put-cargo-trains-on track

Classical case of Which comes first the egg or the hen. Engagement of stakeholder should have done way before the first sleeper was laid. “Anyways better never than late ...” was it Mulili ... incompetence shall be the bane of our country


Does gov't engage matatus before upgrading a road? What they do is that they study the road traffic system and come up with the solution to upgrade or expand the road.
They did the same for SGR after noting the transport chaos between mbs and nrb where passengers and cargo would sometimes be stuck for days in endless traffic jams not to mention numerous accidents and billions spent on road maintenance. The lunatic express line was no better with its endless delays and derailments.

Also I thought that for many yrs importers were complaining about the archaic lunatic express that was taking 4 days to move a container from mbs to nrb and saying that the solution was to have a modern SGR like in developed countries?
Mukiri
#1199 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:50:58 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
Njunge wrote:
Swenani wrote:
[quote=murchr][quote=shadowinvestor]


You invest on an 1/8th or 1/4 acre plot and wake up one morning, a proud owner of a hole.Pray


Laughing out loudly

But you 1/8th or 1/4 acre hole can expand to be a couple of acres and this time filled with watersmile

Laughing out loudly You can only lay claim if demarcated beacons are visible. Will they still hold in a hole?

Proverbs 19:21
Mkimwa
#1200 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 9:13:46 AM
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Cargo volumes on the SGR have been on a steady increase in the last few months.. last data reported was for week ending 18th April with 2917 TEUs transported via train.

31-Jan 438
07-Feb 671
21-Feb 1145
28-Feb 1168
07-Mar 1813
21-Mar 1943
29-Mar 2008
18-Apr 2917

This is data from KPA site SGR latest data.. Cargo evacuated via trucks has reduced as more importers turn to SGR..

The implications:
1. With shipping lines signing agreements with KPA/KR to have Nairobi as final destination on Bill of Lading, Importers who choose this option only have to think of last mile. I stand to be corrected, but i believe the cost of the SGR aspect will be included as part of shipping costs, and hence less headache for the importer. Hence importer pays shipping line or their agent and gets goods in ICD. Mombasa becomes transparent to importer, same way they really dont know if the goods were transhipped in Dubai or Singapore.

2. For those in trucking, ferrying containers from Mombasa to Nairobi is currently not a viable business, once all the inefficiencies on SGR are addressed. The writing is on the wall.. Adapt to last mile from ICD or Mombasa. I don't see why a Nairobi based importer would choose to transport goods via road once all the inefficiencies have been dealt with and the current SGR rates persist.

However, the SGR rates currently are designed to be very low to attract people to the SGR. Am sure once SGR get enough cargo, the importers and C&F agents will have systemized the SGR, and am 100% sure SGR rates will go back to the initial proposed rates of 50-60K per 40 foot container. Add last mile part, the cost will almost be same as that of a truck from MSA to NRB. This is the long term part, where the rail and truckers can co-exist, with the rail taking most of the traffic.

3. Expect most of the Mombasa C&F agents who deal with containers to shift their offices to Nairobi, and leave skeletal staff in Mombasa.

4. For most truckers, a shift towards transit cargo may be the way to go. This may bring down prices for transit cargo, e.g. Kampala rates may go down to 200K from 230-240K currently charged from MSA.

@essyk - how do you see things from the user point of view?
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