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Ryko wrote:This story of "cremation" seems weirdo...
Yaani unaamua kuiva Cremation is a smart way to help the soul accept and move on. Those sumbua souls that don't accept and move on coming back as ghosts are best dealt with using cremation. It's a quicker way of releasing the elements that made the body especially when the skull explodes. The body is just a garment for your soul even the bible says you will have new body. Fire is a good way of dealing with diseases. Plus there isn't much land to be occupied by decomposing bodies and graves.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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wukan wrote:Ryko wrote:This story of "cremation" seems weirdo...
Yaani unaamua kuiva Cremation is a smart way to help the soul accept and move on. Those sumbua souls that don't accept and move on coming back as ghosts are best dealt with using cremation. It's a quicker way of releasing the elements that made the body especially when the skull explodes. The body is just a garment for your soul even the bible says you will have new body. Fire is a good way of dealing with diseases. Plus there isn't much land to be occupied by decomposing bodies and graves. Very true. It's become difficult to buy land in rural areas since graves are everywhere. Cremation should be the way to go or public cemeteries.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. And some people were never in KANU. You can make the case that many of the original 2nd liberation were never in KANU including James Orengo , Mukhisa Kituyi, Kiraitu Murungi, Anyang Nyongo, Muite, Imanyara................ Nope. You are wrong. They were all at one time kanu members. When? I know Orengo was an MP in 1980s but others have no record of been in KANU When was Orengo an MP for KANU? This is a guy who once shared a jail cell with Ochuka at Kamiti maximum. This was after he was repatriated from Tanzania by Nyerere. It does not seem like Moi would ever let him be an MP.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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hardwood wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. And some people were never in KANU. You can make the case that many of the original 2nd liberation were never in KANU including James Orengo , Mukhisa Kituyi, Kiraitu Murungi, Anyang Nyongo, Muite, Imanyara................ Nope. You are wrong. They were all at one time kanu members. When were these people in KANU?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. I propose that everyone left KANU when it suited them. Everyone! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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radiomast wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. And some people were never in KANU. You can make the case that many of the original 2nd liberation were never in KANU including James Orengo , Mukhisa Kituyi, Kiraitu Murungi, Anyang Nyongo, Muite, Imanyara................ Nope. You are wrong. They were all at one time kanu members. When? I know Orengo was an MP in 1980s but others have no record of been in KANU When was Orengo an MP for KANU? This is a guy who once shared a jail cell with Ochuka at Kamiti maximum. This was after he was repatriated from Tanzania by Nyerere. It does not seem like Moi would ever let him be an MP. Orengo was elected MP in 1980. You had to be a KANU member to be allowed to vie! So definitely he was in the party!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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People tend to forget that KANU was the successor of KAU and was the largest contributor to African rights crusade from the 40s to 60s when it took power. That mistakes were made doesn't make the party inherently evil.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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radiomast wrote:hardwood wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. And some people were never in KANU. You can make the case that many of the original 2nd liberation were never in KANU including James Orengo , Mukhisa Kituyi, Kiraitu Murungi, Anyang Nyongo, Muite, Imanyara................ Nope. You are wrong. They were all at one time kanu members. When were these people in KANU? We were all in KANU before 1992.So if anybody was an MP in the 80s,then they were on a KANU ticket. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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radiomast wrote:hardwood wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. And some people were never in KANU. You can make the case that many of the original 2nd liberation were never in KANU including James Orengo , Mukhisa Kituyi, Kiraitu Murungi, Anyang Nyongo, Muite, Imanyara................ Nope. You are wrong. They were all at one time kanu members. When were these people in KANU? Back in the day when we had the Crossfire show on Kiss FM hosted by Patrick Quarcoo with the guests being Mukhisa, Tony Gachoka and the late Mutula Kilonzo, Mukhisa told us he had never joined KANU. That perhaps means he never voted before '92
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Bigchick wrote:radiomast wrote:hardwood wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. And some people were never in KANU. You can make the case that many of the original 2nd liberation were never in KANU including James Orengo , Mukhisa Kituyi, Kiraitu Murungi, Anyang Nyongo, Muite, Imanyara................ Nope. You are wrong. They were all at one time kanu members. When were these people in KANU? We were all in KANU before 1992.So if anybody was an MP in the 80s,then they were on a KANU ticket. This is the sheep mentality that is common in Kenya. Who is "all"? If you were in Kanu, say I was in Kanu. We were not "all" in Kanu. To be a Kanu member, you had to buy that jogoo badge et al. I guess, those that did it then want us ALL to pretend that all of us were from that evil empire. Apana boss. If anyone was in Kanu and has not sought forgiveness for the sins they committed against those who were not in Kanu, they should swallow their guilt on their own. Kanu hawks were very adept at changing history. Not anymore. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/10/2015 Posts: 103
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Lolest! wrote:radiomast wrote:hardwood wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. And some people were never in KANU. You can make the case that many of the original 2nd liberation were never in KANU including James Orengo , Mukhisa Kituyi, Kiraitu Murungi, Anyang Nyongo, Muite, Imanyara................ Nope. You are wrong. They were all at one time kanu members. When were these people in KANU? Back in the day when we had the Crossfire show on Kiss FM hosted by Patrick Quarcoo with the guests being Mukhisa, Tony Gachoka and the late Mutula Kilonzo, Mukhisa told us he had never joined KANU. That perhaps means he never voted before '92 I remember crossfire on Sunday evening.I remember Mutula Snr always calming Tony down & asking him to stop screaming.Who listens to radio anymore-unless you're in a car
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Kili wrote:Who listens to radio anymore-unless you're in a car Speak for yourself. I love Classic 105 FM, other than that hogwash by Wa Kageni. I love the music played there that reminds of the hormone powered days of my youth. But most important of all, I love the accent, masterly of the English Language, and the sense of humour exemplified by the Continuity Announcers. I love Classic 105 FM. The only other equal or better Radio station I listen to is The BBC World Service. Well, maybe until Larry Mondondo starts peddling his eee.... hogwash. So, I repeat, speak for yourself.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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At least Atwoli has some conscience... https://nairobinews.nati...condole-matibas-family/
Quote:Cotu Secretary General Francis Atwoli has come clean on why he never condoled the family of the late pro-democracy champion Kenneth Matiba.
The fiery trade union says he chose to stay away because he was part of the system which persecuted and detained Matiba at the height of the agitation for a return to multiparty democracy in the early 1990s.
“I was surprised to see some of the people I worked together with in Kanu back then going to condole with the late Matiba’s family. But I chose not go to pretend because I was one of the main mobilizers of YK92 (Youth for Kanu 92) movement,” said Atwoli.
“And some of these people keep saying they want to be the presidents of this country,” added the Cotu boss in what appeared to be subtle dig at Deputy president William Ruto.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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Bigchick wrote:radiomast wrote:hardwood wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. And some people were never in KANU. You can make the case that many of the original 2nd liberation were never in KANU including James Orengo , Mukhisa Kituyi, Kiraitu Murungi, Anyang Nyongo, Muite, Imanyara................ Nope. You are wrong. They were all at one time kanu members. When were these people in KANU? We were all in KANU before 1992.So if anybody was an MP in the 80s,then they were on a KANU ticket. Those people I mentioned were not MPs with the exception of Orengo apparently.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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masukuma wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. I propose that everyone left KANU when it suited them. Everyone! Some did not leave KANU. They were expelled: JOO, GG Kariuki, Muliro, Shikuku, Nthenge, Philip Gachoka, Salim Ahmed na wengineo ............
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:radiomast wrote:masukuma wrote:Nani hakuwa KANU? Please! Its all about when you left KANU and why? Its more than that. Some people benefited significantly from KANU and are still benefiting from the KANU legacy. Others were in KANU but at some point stood up and defied the powers that be. This includes the likes of Muliro, Koigi, Shikuku, Oneko, JOO, Kaggia et al. I propose that everyone left KANU when it suited them. Everyone! Some did not leave KANU. They were expelled: JOO, GG Kariuki, Muliro, Shikuku, Nthenge, Philip Gachoka, Salim Ahmed na wengineo ............ Haki si Admin akona jokes? Yaani he/she has refused that storo ya "LIKE" button fofofo Nktiest
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