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Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 11:59:44 AM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#2 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 12:02:18 PM
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NIL Divs
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Fyatu
#3 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 12:25:40 PM
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Asante sana.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Pesa Nane
#4 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 12:27:21 PM
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Nakumatt

[Na-ku-mat]

Word origins: Nakuru mattresses

noun
1. A group or company or thing that exterminates other businesses.

2. A group, company, person or business establishment specializing in the elimination of other businesses especially by the application swindling tactics, money laundry, lease and rent defaults etc.

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The Company made significant provisions against receivables from supermarkets in Kenya that have been extremely slow to pay.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
mlennyma
#5 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 1:22:45 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Sad

NIL Divs

since listing this man has given no coin to anyone
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#6 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 1:45:37 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Sad

NIL Divs

since listing this man has given no coin to anyone

and by the trend, next year shall be no different.. he appears on @yasserlist consistently

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#7 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 3:58:19 PM
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obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Sad

NIL Divs

since listing this man has given no coin to anyone

and by the trend, next year shall be no different.. he appears on @yasserlist consistently

When's KQ paying a dividend? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Last I read, KQ wants shareholders to give it more money [which retail shareholders should so KQ can repay loans to KQLC members] instead of paying its shareholders money!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#8 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 4:07:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Sad

NIL Divs

since listing this man has given no coin to anyone

and by the trend, next year shall be no different.. he appears on @yasserlist consistently

When's KQ paying a dividend? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Last I read, KQ wants shareholders to give it more money [which retail shareholders should so KQ can repay loans to KQLC members] instead of paying its shareholders money!

Wewe mzee ni nini yakuwasha na pesa tunataka kupatia @KQ smile

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 4:15:23 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
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Not a core investment [& unlikely to be one in the near future unless performance picks up substantially] but I have a few shares.
FY 2017 has been brutal for most listed (& unlisted) firms. I am glad FTGH managed to make a small profit BUT how it navigates 2018 will be key.

Many manufacturing firms reduced sales (on credit) in 2H 2017 which partially explains the drop in turnover.
Sales to Nakumatt probably went to zero in 2H.
Sales to other distributors was probably reduced (as should be) based on slow payments.
Going into the elections probably slowed down trading as banks also reduced credit.
Farming took a huge hit from the drought, elections (fears of PEV), etc

Until we, as Kenyans, realize the need to encourage local manufacturing, such will be the fate of manufacturing firms that have foreign/import competition. Local manufacturing costs due to structural deficiencies are quite high vs some countries.

FTGH needs to:
- Reduce the receivables even if it lowers the turnover [It's better to make less on reduced turnover than have customers who do not pay!] KK did that successfully e.g. not supplying a certain slow-paying airline.
- Reduce admin costs [increase efficiencies?]
- Generate cash [reduce receivables] to pay down debt.
- Develop new distribution channels [company store, direct sales, online sales]
- Apply for reduced electricity tariffs.
- Scale down acquisitions of marginal businesses

Lots of challenges:
- Higher polymer prices. Oil is at $74 (April 2018)
- Higher fuel costs
- Reduced credit for customers
- Higher electricity charges [KPLC shenanigans]
- Corruption
- Competition

Tough times ahead.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#10 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 4:28:04 PM
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@vvs no difference in terms of dividend with KQ Laughing out loudly

KQ ABP 4.26
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