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obiero
#31 Posted : Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:45:23 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example


Telkom kenya are trying,airtel are the ones who are dead

The quality of personnel at Telkom is at the moment of much greater depth than Safaricom. Its just Kenyans peculiar habits that keep people tied to an expensive network, but atleast the latest CA report shows voice traffic on Safaricom dropped close to 10% in Q4 2017


True Obiero telkom Kenya has changed

Totally changed.. Most of the executive team are industry shapers with global acclaim, some being part of Safaricom initial success http://www.telkom.co.ke/management

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sparkly
#32 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:18:16 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
[quote=ngapat]Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example


Telkom kenya are trying,airtel are the ones who are dead

The quality of personnel at Telkom is at the moment of much greater depth than Safaricom. Its just Kenyans peculiar habits that keep people tied to an expensive network, but atleast the latest CA report shows voice traffic on Safaricom dropped close to 10% in Q4 2017


True Obiero telkom Kenya has changed

Totally changed.. Most of the executive team are industry shapers with global acclaim, some being part of Safaricom initial success http://www.telkom.co.ke/management[/quote]

Helios know how to fatten calves for slaughter. If all works out for them (if not crushed by Safaricom) we will have an IPO in 5 years.
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obiero
#33 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:01:26 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example


Telkom kenya are trying,airtel are the ones who are dead

The quality of personnel at Telkom is at the moment of much greater depth than Safaricom. Its just Kenyans peculiar habits that keep people tied to an expensive network, but atleast the latest CA report shows voice traffic on Safaricom dropped close to 10% in Q4 2017


True Obiero telkom Kenya has changed

Totally changed.. Most of the executive team are industry shapers with global acclaim, some being part of Safaricom initial success http://www.telkom.co.ke/management


Helios know how to fatten calves for slaughter. If all works out for them (if not crushed by Safaricom) we will have an IPO in 5 years.

Let that IPO come soon

KQ ABP 4.26
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Ericsson
#34 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:00:21 PM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example


Telkom kenya are trying,airtel are the ones who are dead

The quality of personnel at Telkom is at the moment of much greater depth than Safaricom. Its just Kenyans peculiar habits that keep people tied to an expensive network, but atleast the latest CA report shows voice traffic on Safaricom dropped close to 10% in Q4 2017


True Obiero telkom Kenya has changed

Totally changed.. Most of the executive team are industry shapers with global acclaim, some being part of Safaricom initial success http://www.telkom.co.ke/management


Helios know how to fatten calves for slaughter. If all works out for them (if not crushed by Safaricom) we will have an IPO in 5 years.

Let that IPO come soon


All can only work for them if Airtel falters.
As for safaricom them they are in a different league not forgetting the financial muscle and debt free status of the balance sheet
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snifadog
#35 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2018 4:33:43 PM
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ngapat wrote:
Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example



I have been trying out the Telkom network for the past 1 week. Firstly when I bought the simcard from their shop in sarit, the sales person had to step out of the office to look for signal to activate my line..early warning signs
Now on the data front I have given up..I have been used to safaricom fast and reliable 4G. Telkom is weak kabisa, I have to airplane mode a couple of times a day to restart the connection..not to mention most times its on EDGE or H+ I think a good segment of the market will happily pay a bit more to get fast reliable 4G instead of suffering with the Telkoms and Airtels of this world
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Stiffler
#36 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2018 9:51:37 PM
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snifadog wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example



I have been trying out the Telkom network for the past 1 week. Firstly when I bought the simcard from their shop in sarit, the sales person had to step out of the office to look for signal to activate my line..early warning signs
Now on the data front I have given up..I have been used to safaricom fast and reliable 4G. Telkom is weak kabisa, I have to airplane mode a couple of times a day to restart the connection..not to mention most times its on EDGE or H+ I think a good segment of the market will happily pay a bit more to get fast reliable 4G instead of suffering with the Telkoms and Airtels of this world


Main Reason why am stuck in this unwanted Union with Safaricon
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VituVingiSana
#37 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:11:12 PM
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snifadog wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example



I have been trying out the Telkom network for the past 1 week. Firstly when I bought the simcard from their shop in sarit, the sales person had to step out of the office to look for signal to activate my line..early warning signs
Now on the data front I have given up..I have been used to safaricom fast and reliable 4G. Telkom is weak kabisa, I have to airplane mode a couple of times a day to restart the connection..not to mention most times its on EDGE or H+ I think a good segment of the market will happily pay a bit more to get fast reliable 4G instead of suffering with the Telkoms and Airtels of this world
That's messed up. Surely, they can stick a base station in their shop!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#38 Posted : Thursday, May 31, 2018 6:54:05 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
snifadog wrote:
ngapat wrote:
Telkom and airtel are run by thick headed ceo's. The only way they will end safaricom dominance is by working on their network. No amount of freebies and cheap offers will help them win customers if their network is not atleast at par with that of safaricom.
I don't really think Mpesa is enough reason to tie people to safaricom. Nowadays there are so many money transfer services cheaper than Mpesa. Equitel for example



I have been trying out the Telkom network for the past 1 week. Firstly when I bought the simcard from their shop in sarit, the sales person had to step out of the office to look for signal to activate my line..early warning signs
Now on the data front I have given up..I have been used to safaricom fast and reliable 4G. Telkom is weak kabisa, I have to airplane mode a couple of times a day to restart the connection..not to mention most times its on EDGE or H+ I think a good segment of the market will happily pay a bit more to get fast reliable 4G instead of suffering with the Telkoms and Airtels of this world
That's messed up. Surely, they can stick a base station in their shop!

I personally haven’t been affected by the stated service outtages

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murchr
#39 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2018 4:31:33 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mlennyma
#40 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2018 6:42:16 PM
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I don't trust Indians,it can be a tax evading formula,this liabilities indicates the company is dead
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