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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Alba wrote:Indians are climbing up the ladder in corporate america because they are masters in the art of kissing their bosses butt and sabotaging co-workers whom they see as competition. Meanwhile Africans think hard work will get them promoted in America. They don't understand office politics hapo stateside. They are great politicians  The truth is - in life, you don't get what you are worth - you get what you negotiate! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Indians are climbing up the ladder in corporate america because they are masters in the art of kissing their bosses butt and sabotaging co-workers whom they see as competition. Meanwhile Africans think hard work will get them promoted in America. They don't understand office politics hapo stateside. They are great politicians The truth is - in life, you don't get what you are worth - you get what you negotiate! What alba is talking about doesn't sound like negotiating
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Indians are climbing up the ladder in corporate america because they are masters in the art of kissing their bosses butt and sabotaging co-workers whom they see as competition. Meanwhile Africans think hard work will get them promoted in America. They don't understand office politics hapo stateside. They are great politicians The truth is - in life, you don't get what you are worth - you get what you negotiate! What alba is talking about doesn't sound like negotiating That's politics All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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I think we're having very broad generalizations here, to the extent of making me wonder what our intentions may be for creating this thread.
But if I may also say something about the 'Indians': their ancient traditions seem to not only persist, but are blending well with contemporary needs. So with other traditions in uncharted waters, it should only follow that the traditional will offer instances of 'glimmer'.
Then there's the issue of 'politics' again:India may appear to shine in areas where China could also shine, but because of policies...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Indians are climbing up the ladder in corporate america because they are masters in the art of kissing their bosses butt and sabotaging co-workers whom they see as competition. Meanwhile Africans think hard work will get them promoted in America. They don't understand office politics hapo stateside. They are great politicians The truth is - in life, you don't get what you are worth - you get what you negotiate! What alba is talking about doesn't sound like negotiating True. Advancing in corporate America is not about negotiating. Its about maneuvering. Knowing whom to schmooze. Knowing how to network.Knowing exactly how to massage the egos of the people above you. Then you talk down the achievements of those you consider competition. Take credit for what your subordinates do. Clamp down on the subordinates who are trying to be ambitious. etc etc. Indians are very good at these. Even in Kenya Indians are very comfortable with cozying up to the authorities when it suits them. But What really separates them from the Chinese is that Indians tend to be Type-A personalities who can dominate a conversation.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Alba wrote:Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Indians are climbing up the ladder in corporate america because they are masters in the art of kissing their bosses butt and sabotaging co-workers whom they see as competition. Meanwhile Africans think hard work will get them promoted in America. They don't understand office politics hapo stateside. They are great politicians The truth is - in life, you don't get what you are worth - you get what you negotiate! What alba is talking about doesn't sound like negotiating True. Advancing in corporate America is not about negotiating. Its about maneuvering. Knowing whom to schmooze. Knowing how to network.Knowing exactly how to massage the egos of the people above you. Then you talk down the achievements of those you consider competition. Take credit for what your subordinates do. Clamp down on the subordinates who are trying to be ambitious. etc etc. Indians are very good at these. Even in Kenya Indians are very comfortable with cozying up to the authorities when it suits them. But What really separates them from the Chinese is that Indians tend to be Type-A personalities who can dominate a conversation. Maneuvering, schmoozing (though sijui hiyo ni nini ), networking and massaging egos are all vital negotiating skills.
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Alba wrote:Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Indians are climbing up the ladder in corporate america because they are masters in the art of kissing their bosses butt and sabotaging co-workers whom they see as competition. Meanwhile Africans think hard work will get them promoted in America. They don't understand office politics hapo stateside. They are great politicians The truth is - in life, you don't get what you are worth - you get what you negotiate! What alba is talking about doesn't sound like negotiating True. Advancing in corporate America is not about negotiating. Its about maneuvering. Knowing whom to schmooze. Knowing how to network.Knowing exactly how to massage the egos of the people above you. Then you talk down the achievements of those you consider competition. Take credit for what your subordinates do. Clamp down on the subordinates who are trying to be ambitious. etc etc. Indians are very good at these. Even in Kenya Indians are very comfortable with cozying up to the authorities when it suits them. But What really separates them from the Chinese is that Indians tend to be Type-A personalities who can dominate a conversation. Maneuvering, schmoozing (though sijui hiyo ni nini ), networking and massaging egos are all vital negotiating skills. Eish! I might be biased but I'd rather be out-maneuvered by an Indian than a Jungu. At least the Indian will schmooze and have the work knowledge/skills to beat you roho safi, while the jungu might have more networking skills and will openly back-stab you to get where they want to go.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Sansa wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Alba wrote:Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Indians are climbing up the ladder in corporate america because they are masters in the art of kissing their bosses butt and sabotaging co-workers whom they see as competition. Meanwhile Africans think hard work will get them promoted in America. They don't understand office politics hapo stateside. They are great politicians The truth is - in life, you don't get what you are worth - you get what you negotiate! What alba is talking about doesn't sound like negotiating True. Advancing in corporate America is not about negotiating. Its about maneuvering. Knowing whom to schmooze. Knowing how to network.Knowing exactly how to massage the egos of the people above you. Then you talk down the achievements of those you consider competition. Take credit for what your subordinates do. Clamp down on the subordinates who are trying to be ambitious. etc etc. Indians are very good at these. Even in Kenya Indians are very comfortable with cozying up to the authorities when it suits them. But What really separates them from the Chinese is that Indians tend to be Type-A personalities who can dominate a conversation. Maneuvering, schmoozing (though sijui hiyo ni nini ), networking and massaging egos are all vital negotiating skills. Eish! I might be biased but I'd rather be out-maneuvered by an Indian than a Jungu. At least the Indian will schmooze and have the work knowledge/skills to beat you roho safi, while the jungu might have more networking skills and will openly back-stab you to get where they want to go. Oh my.. I have seen some really vicious game plays by wazunguz jostling for positions. They can be really nasty!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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While majority of the negros are in the gutters crying racism.. No one can make you feel hated without your permission
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 "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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this question is answered in "cosmos" but using a different time frame All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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How does such knowledge help me, I think I'm doing relatively well without such useless information in my life If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Swenani wrote:How does such knowledge help me, I think I'm doing relatively well without such useless information in my life It's not information. It's the ability to use your brain. Very soon you'll be competing with computers. And survival of the fittest will have another meaning all together. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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The Indians and the Jews deserve a place in the high table. I celebrate this kijana, wamahesabu... https://www.chess.com/ne...ngest-gm-in-history-1169
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:How does such knowledge help me, I think I'm doing relatively well without such useless information in my life It's not information. It's the ability to use your brain. Very soon you'll be competing with computers. And survival of the fittest will have another meaning all together. What is 1+1 Intelligent guy - it's 2.. let me show you the proof. Clever guy - I know a guy (brings in intelligent guy above) Wise guy - there is no point in answering this question. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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In Kenya, I notice Shahs are very rich, Singhs are engineers and wakoras, Patels shopkeepers
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:How does such knowledge help me, I think I'm doing relatively well without such useless information in my life It's not information. It's the ability to use your brain. Very soon you'll be competing with computers. And survival of the fittest will have another meaning all together. What is 1+1 Intelligent guy - it's 2.. let me show you the proof. Clever guy - I know a guy (brings in intelligent guy above) Wise guy - there is no point in answering this question. Intelligent clever wise guy-How is this answer going help me? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Swenani wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:How does such knowledge help me, I think I'm doing relatively well without such useless information in my life It's not information. It's the ability to use your brain. Very soon you'll be competing with computers. And survival of the fittest will have another meaning all together. What is 1+1 Intelligent guy - it's 2.. let me show you the proof. Clever guy - I know a guy (brings in intelligent guy above) Wise guy - there is no point in answering this question. Intelligent clever wise guy-How is this answer going help me? It's was never about you in the first place "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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mawinder wrote:In Kenya, I notice Shahs are very rich, Singhs are engineers and wakoras, Patels shopkeepers I guess in the same way mzungu cannot tell the difference between a tuareg and a mkamba - same thing happens to us. I happen to have tight relations with some Indians - real ones from India. Very cool people but what I realised is that they have same issues we have. They are as stereotyped as we are. Sindhis are cowards and like money. Panjabis are lifists and big talkers. Sijui wagani ndio wakipata kazi ya serikali hawatatoka. wengine ni maringo. India has over 1000 languages All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:mawinder wrote:In Kenya, I notice Shahs are very rich, Singhs are engineers and wakoras, Patels shopkeepers I guess in the same way mzungu cannot tell the difference between a tuareg and a mkamba - same thing happens to us. I happen to have tight relations with some Indians - real ones from India. Very cool people but what I realised is that they have same issues we have. They are as stereotyped as we are. Sindhis are cowards and like money. Panjabis are lifists and big talkers. Sijui wagani ndio wakipata kazi ya serikali hawatatoka. wengine ni maringo. India has over 1000 languages Gujaratis are like the Kikuyus and are disliked by all other tribes because they are the biashara people and are everywhere in the world. Punjabis are like the Luos, they are the ones who are more likely to have the poshest cars even when they do not have savings or a house. They also have the most flashy attires, most colorful weddings and most beautiful songs. Tamils ndiyo watu wa masomo na computer. These are the ones who went everywhere the British went, South Africa, SriLanka, Singapore, Malaysia, Canada, Fiji, Guyana. I would suspect back at home they would be the watu wa kazi ya serikali.
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