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AlphDoti wrote:@Fullykenyan please answer the above question. Also please indicate where Malema preached murder... you can indicate at what minute in his talks he said that. That would be beneficial... @Fullykenyan is based in Kiashland thus he depends on western media for news on African continent and as we all know, western media provide an accurate representation of Africa. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Swenani wrote:AlphDoti wrote:@Fullykenyan please answer the above question. Also please indicate where Malema preached murder... you can indicate at what minute in his talks he said that. That would be beneficial... @Fullykenyan is based in Kiashland thus he depends on western media for news on African continent and as we all know, western media provide an accurate representation of Africa. Boss you are wrong. I know moreabout Africa than many living in Swenaniland. Just go to Youtube and look for clips of malema adressing his supporters. They are full of hatred. Have you heard of his song, Kiss the boer? listen to it, if you have not If Mugabe was that good as some of you are purpoting, why was he overthrown?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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After all those yrs with apartheid b/s, I say more power to the black panthers! i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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The more I think about it - the more I wonder what the future of SA will be. History speaks for itself... the less than 10% white people really f***ed up the over 80% of Africans on their own land and engineered Black failure. They seem to have organized themselves fairly well and built "their" side. Of course the majority of the population that has been deprived access to schooling and capital will not buy the farms mzungus want to sell... at the same time - Mzungus have added value. Hii ni kama mdomo ya nyoka... haina reverse gear! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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Lolest! wrote:harrydre wrote:
It's their land. Let it go back to it's rightful owners. They will learn how to farm in any case, just as their ancestors were forced to mine.
Expropriation without compensation. Let's see how it ends. Me thinks Kenya owes Jomo and his govt for their foresight and not going by this route which was the popular thing to do. Africans in 1963 wanted all whites expelled from Kenya and all their property taken back. But those were trying times. The economy was declining as the whites had started leaving after Mau Mau insurgency broke out in the 50s. A new wave of emigration started when violence broke out in newly independent Congo(DRC) in 1960. With these property prices tumbled and the economy contracted as Whites largely controlled the economy. I think there was wisdom in Kenyatta I's govt opting to negotiate the whites out and compensating them to stem a collapse of the economy. For SA, it is good that they do redistribution but with compensation. Remember these whites have been there since 1652. Our land problems are precisely because Jomo messed us up royally, while playing up to the British. I say SA is on the right track. Only need to avoid Mugabe pitfalls and they will be fine. How the hell do you watch wazungu making millions from the land they kicked your great grandfather out of and just lie down doing nothing. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2009 Posts: 587
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tom_boy wrote:Lolest! wrote:harrydre wrote:
It's their land. Let it go back to it's rightful owners. They will learn how to farm in any case, just as their ancestors were forced to mine.
Expropriation without compensation. Let's see how it ends. Me thinks Kenya owes Jomo and his govt for their foresight and not going by this route which was the popular thing to do. Africans in 1963 wanted all whites expelled from Kenya and all their property taken back. But those were trying times. The economy was declining as the whites had started leaving after Mau Mau insurgency broke out in the 50s. A new wave of emigration started when violence broke out in newly independent Congo(DRC) in 1960. With these property prices tumbled and the economy contracted as Whites largely controlled the economy. I think there was wisdom in Kenyatta I's govt opting to negotiate the whites out and compensating them to stem a collapse of the economy. For SA, it is good that they do redistribution but with compensation. Remember these whites have been there since 1652. Our land problems are precisely because Jomo messed us up royally, while playing up to the British. I say SA is on the right track. Only need to avoid Mugabe pitfalls and they will be fine. How the hell do you watch wazungu making millions from the land they kicked your great grandfather out of and just lie down doing nothing. We keep giving excuses for our own inadequacy. @ tom-boy, if you cannot make use of the eighth that you were given by the same great grandfather who worked had to get another plot, what business do you have in that idle land that does not belong to you...bure wewe!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Baratang wrote:tom_boy wrote:Lolest! wrote:harrydre wrote:
It's their land. Let it go back to it's rightful owners. They will learn how to farm in any case, just as their ancestors were forced to mine.
Expropriation without compensation. Let's see how it ends. Me thinks Kenya owes Jomo and his govt for their foresight and not going by this route which was the popular thing to do. Africans in 1963 wanted all whites expelled from Kenya and all their property taken back. But those were trying times. The economy was declining as the whites had started leaving after Mau Mau insurgency broke out in the 50s. A new wave of emigration started when violence broke out in newly independent Congo(DRC) in 1960. With these property prices tumbled and the economy contracted as Whites largely controlled the economy. I think there was wisdom in Kenyatta I's govt opting to negotiate the whites out and compensating them to stem a collapse of the economy. For SA, it is good that they do redistribution but with compensation. Remember these whites have been there since 1652. Our land problems are precisely because Jomo messed us up royally, while playing up to the British. I say SA is on the right track. Only need to avoid Mugabe pitfalls and they will be fine. How the hell do you watch wazungu making millions from the land they kicked your great grandfather out of and just lie down doing nothing. We keep giving excuses for our own inadequacy. @ tom-boy, if you cannot make use of the eighth that you were given by the same great grandfather who worked had to get another plot, what business do you have in that idle land that does not belong to you...bure wewe! Who tells you @tom_boy has only an eight piece of land? And do you know how he acquired whatever amount he has now? Brother, J0m0 took advantage, the elite led by him embarked on land grabbing spree... That is why the family today has unfair advantage over many, many other families... The money given by the British govt, J0m0 took it and made it his own and acquired land from the outgoing white settlers... This is an open secret... We will not keep quiet as you try to cheat people here... Quote:“By 1965, Kenyatta is reported to have been using his position as president to buy numerous settler farms in the White Highlands and also excising and allocating to himself and family government forest land in Kiambu,” went on the report.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:The more I think about it - the more I wonder what the future of SA will be. History speaks for itself... the less than 10% white people really f***ed up the over 80% of Africans on their own land and engineered Black failure. They seem to have organized themselves fairly well and built "their" side. Of course the majority of the population that has been deprived access to schooling and capital will not buy the farms mzungus want to sell... at the same time - Mzungus have added value. Hii ni kama mdomo ya nyoka... haina reverse gear! Tell this to deceptive ones like kina @bratang... And somebody will say ati "willing-buyer willing-seller"...are you joking! Who did these wh1tes buy land from in the first place. Were our grandparents willing sellers? Unless you have a lifetime to wait for you to be able to buy...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The native americans in the US should also have their land back. And they should kick out the "colonizing whites and their black slaves" off their land.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:The native americans in the US should also have their land back. And they should kick out the "colonizing whites and their black slaves" off their land. It's never a question of 'should they'... it's a question of 'can they'? it's the same in Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Argentina and most of latin america... CAN YOU? What numbers do you have? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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