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kyukkamba
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:15:53 AM
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Sometimes you are left wondering ... Why? .. How?? ...Vipi?? feel pity for those caught in between. What does the Bible and the Quraan tell us ???
(I believe the word refers to those born M or F but while growing up they tend to change to the oppossite sex.. It's even in todays Sunday Nation)
Ni Uhuru wa Mbesha...Niguo kana tiguo?
FundamentAli
#2 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 8:35:25 AM
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These things are happening because we do not understand the consequences of our action. Environment, GMOs, medicine etc.. These actions are new to human race and were not there when bible and quran were written.
Ja-Kom
#3 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 8:54:26 AM
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@Fundahh,i beg to differ.The Bible is not silent on such issues.The Bible has plenty to say about human sexuality. Transsexualism, also known as transgenderism,is a desire to change one’s sex or to fulfill the role of the opposite gender. Transsexuals / transgenders usually describe themselves as “trapped” in a body that does not match their gender. They will probably practice transvestism / transvestitism and may also seek hormone therapy and/or surgery to bring their bodies into conformity with their perceived gender.

Most basic to our understanding of sex is that God created two (and only two) genders: “male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:27). All the modern-day speculation about numerous genders—or even a gender “continuum” with unlimited genders—is unbiblical.

In Psalm 139, we learn that God fashions each one of us. “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made. . . . My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. . . . your eyes saw my unformed body” (verses 13-16). God’s creation of each individual must surely include His designation of gender/sex. His wonderful work leaves no room for mistakes; no one is born with the “wrong body.”

After the fall of man, it did not take long for gender issues to become confused. In Abraham’s day, homosexuality was widespread in some cities (Genesis 19:1-7; Jude 7). The Bible is unmistakably clear that homosexuality is a sinful perversion of God’s gift of sexuality (Romans 1:18-32; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

In the Law, transvestism / transvestitism was specifically forbidden: “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this” (Deuteronomy 22:5).

Another possible reference to transsexualism is 1 Corinthians 6:9, where “male prostitutes” is listed as a separate category from “homosexual offenders.” The King James Version uses the word “effeminate” here; that is to say, the “male prostitutes” might be transsexual men who act as women.

The Bible calls all such gender distortion sin. Transgenderism is not genetically based, and it is not simply a psychological disorder; it is rebellion against God’s plan. But following this realization is good news: sin can be forgiven and lives can be changed through faith in Christ. The Corinthian believers are an example of such a change: “And [homosexuals] is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11).But as alwez… There is hope for any sinner available in Jesus Christ.
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. Romans 5:19
FundamentAli
#4 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 9:16:07 AM
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@ Ja-kom

This is about an abnormal change of hormonal balances. Scientist are baffled because effeminisation is now affecting even other species. Imagine having more oestrogen than normal without being injected with it. How do you deal with that? Transgender is not about sex orientation but about gender identity. The victim in yesterdays paper experienced the changes late in his life.

Guka should tell us about the old fables of going round the Mugumo tree seven times to change your gender
kivairu
#5 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 11:38:22 AM
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I watched this transgender thing a while back on the Oprah show and to be honest i didnt know what to make of it.I'm still baffled to this day. Its common place in the US and im surprised it's taking root here in kenya.I tried to rationalise it in my mind but couldnt.Some people argue that the victims inject themselves with hormones..but i disagree.From the show, some people innocently ,find themselves in such scenarios, at some stage in their lives, while growing up and it has nothing to do with willful desire to change sex.

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
kyukkamba
#6 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 8:35:57 PM
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@ Ja-kom
This whole thing has nothing to do with Homosexuality,neither with God creation of 2 genders nor being rebeliouse to God's plan..NO... THis is something beyond the victim's control.. they don't know what to do...u always knew u were a man and all of a sudden u started developing women's feeling...d'oh! u can not stop itSad it's just happening beyond ur wish..what do u thing u can do??? The victim is not a Homo neither is he doing anything againsg God's plan.
This is not the 1st time it has come up in the papers. I rememember once a woman appeared in the daily nation with her son complaining of her "son" who has been a "son" since birth but now developing abnormal changes...she was asking for helpPray There is more to it that we don't know ....
Ni Uhuru wa Mbesha...Niguo kana tiguo?
Apple Bees
#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:27:44 AM
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Dunia ina mambo kweli!
youcan'tstopusnow
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:35:24 PM
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Ja-Kom this has nothing to do with being "fearfully and wonderfully made". Genetics. Therein lies the answer. Please let us not turn to religion for everything, for it doesn't have all the answers.
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
harrydre
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:54:02 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
These things are happening because we do not understand the consequences of our action. Environment, GMOs, medicine etc.. These actions are new to human race and were not there when bible and quran were written.


These manenos have been here with us ever since the human race happened!

http://educateinspirecha...-acknowledged-5-genders/
i.am.back!!!!
masukuma
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:32:30 PM
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harrydre wrote:
[quote=FundamentAli]These things are happening because we do not understand the consequences of our action. Environment, GMOs, medicine etc.. These actions are new to human race and were not there when bible and quran were written.


These manenos have been here with us and since the human race happened!

http://educateinspirecha...acknowledged-5-genders/[/quote]
It's biology!!! Sio mchezo!! Our DNA hides so many things. Brave New world....
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