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Ngalaka wrote:Swenani wrote:
@Ngalaka surely, there should be objectivity. If the matter is before the court, why is he being asked to re-apply for citizenship? He can only be deemed a Kenyan non citizen once the court decides so.As of now, he is KENYAN citizen and the same court ordered that he be issued with travel docs and his entry be facilitated ama pia tumefika kwa selective understanding
No, the corect position is; - As at now the matter of his citizenship is contested, disputed by the Govt of Kenya. There are two views, his and Govt's. Only the courts can rule one way or the other. He needs to enter Kenya to carry out his business some of which is litigate over this matter. To enter Kenya he can; 1. Use his Canadian passport 2. Apply to get a Kenyan passport - and the process is laid down as told to him by the Immigration. So we trash the court orders? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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DJ Njagi ako wapi?? He is taking too long.
Toa ngoma DJ "I am not goooing"
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Swenani wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Swenani wrote:
@Ngalaka surely, there should be objectivity. If the matter is before the court, why is he being asked to re-apply for citizenship? He can only be deemed a Kenyan non citizen once the court decides so.As of now, he is KENYAN citizen and the same court ordered that he be issued with travel docs and his entry be facilitated ama pia tumefika kwa selective understanding
No, the corect position is; - As at now the matter of his citizenship is contested, disputed by the Govt of Kenya. There are two views, his and Govt's. Only the courts can rule one way or the other. He needs to enter Kenya to carry out his business some of which is litigate over this matter. To enter Kenya he can; 1. Use his Canadian passport 2. Apply to get a Kenyan passport - and the process is laid down as told to him by the Immigration. So we trash the court orders? I am not persuaded that there are any Court orders that compel the Govt to issue him with a fresh passport. A very broad&liberal reading of what you posted up there might be misconstrued to mean so, but I have other 'ideas' Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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And to add to that, if my memory serves me right at one point the Court ordered that the passport be deposited in Court pending the hearing. However 'unfortunately' the passport showed up perforated. From then on, if the Court had wanted Miguna issued with a fresh (un-perforated)passport, nothing would have been easier than saying so. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Throw him out or put him in kamiti for treason.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Ngalaka wrote:And to add to that, if my memory serves me right at one point the Court ordered that the passport be deposited in Court pending the hearing.
However 'unfortunately' the passport showed up perforated.
From then on, if the Court had wanted Miguna issued with a fresh (un-perforated)passport, nothing would have been easier than saying so. That passport was acquired illegally and the courts must not be used to perpetuate an illegality. Miguna cannot hold a valid kenyan passport until he applies for citizenship and he has refused to do so today.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Ngalaka wrote:Swenani wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Swenani wrote:
@Ngalaka surely, there should be objectivity. If the matter is before the court, why is he being asked to re-apply for citizenship? He can only be deemed a Kenyan non citizen once the court decides so.As of now, he is KENYAN citizen and the same court ordered that he be issued with travel docs and his entry be facilitated ama pia tumefika kwa selective understanding
No, the corect position is; - As at now the matter of his citizenship is contested, disputed by the Govt of Kenya. There are two views, his and Govt's. Only the courts can rule one way or the other. He needs to enter Kenya to carry out his business some of which is litigate over this matter. To enter Kenya he can; 1. Use his Canadian passport 2. Apply to get a Kenyan passport - and the process is laid down as told to him by the Immigration. So we trash the court orders? I am not persuaded that there are any Court orders that compel the Govt to issue him with a fresh passport. A very broad&liberal reading of what you posted up there might be misconstrued to mean so, but I have other 'ideas' @Ngalaka if court issues court its order on one hand and the gava insist on interpreting in its own manner on the other hand, where are we heading? Are we saying we are a failed state?
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M2 is that special kinda crazy...the kind the ignites movements... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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