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Kenya Re - 2018 and beyond
VituVingiSana
#81 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2018 4:15:59 AM
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https://www.nation.co.ke...3464-8728ldz/index.html[

“I strongly believe that my compliance with the directive of the Chief of Staff and Head of Public Service was the genesis of the perceived issues with some members of the board of directors of the respondent and in particular those who were due for retirement during the aforesaid AGM of June 16, 2017, as clearly demonstrated by sequence of events that followed,” says Mr Mwarania in an affidavit.
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VituVingiSana
#82 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2018 4:22:50 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]1) If Kinyua told Mwarania to arrange to replace Kemei, then why go after Mwarania and not Kinyua?--Touching Kinyua is getting into the bad books of the president,he can't dare.

Same difference? I can't see Kemei doing this unless he had the support of Rotich and/or Godfather #1

2) If the replacement was to be done on 16th June 2017, during the AGM, then why weren't they (Kemei, Mukoma, Shakaba] replaced? [Didn't GoK vote for them?]--Their term is coming to an end in 2018 not 2017.

NOTICE OF THE 2017 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
Notice is hereby given that the 19th ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING OF KENYA REINSURANCE CORPORATION LIMITED will be held at the Bomas of Kenya, Langata Road, Nairobi, on Friday, 16th June 2017 at 11.00 a.m. when the following business will be transacted, namely:

Election of Directors:
In accordance with Article 110 of the Corporation’s Articles of Association, the following Directors retire by rotation and, being eligible, offer themselves for re-election:
i. Mr. Maina Mukoma,
ii. Mr David Kemei,
iii. Mr. Chiboli Shakaba


3) Don't the 3 [Kemei, Mukoma, Shakaba] have another 3-year term from 2017?--It's from 2018.The previous chairperson Nelly Kariuki retired in 2015 when Kemei's term started.

https://www.nation.co.ke...9528-qsypxfz/index.html

“I strongly believe that my compliance with the directive of the Chief of Staff and Head of Public Service was the genesis of the perceived issues with some members of the board of directors of the respondent and in particular those who were due for retirement during the aforesaid AGM of June 16, 2017, as clearly demonstrated by sequence of events that followed,” says Mr Mwarania in an affidavit.


4) Did Rotich out-manuever Kinyua? -- I am not privy to information if Rotich was involved in this fiasco.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#83 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:42:30 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]1) If Kinyua told Mwarania to arrange to replace Kemei, then why go after Mwarania and not Kinyua?--Touching Kinyua is getting into the bad books of the president,he can't dare.

Same difference? I can't see Kemei doing this unless he had the support of Rotich and/or Godfather #1

2) If the replacement was to be done on 16th June 2017, during the AGM, then why weren't they (Kemei, Mukoma, Shakaba] replaced? [Didn't GoK vote for them?]--Their term is coming to an end in 2018 not 2017.

NOTICE OF THE 2017 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
Notice is hereby given that the 19th ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING OF KENYA REINSURANCE CORPORATION LIMITED will be held at the Bomas of Kenya, Langata Road, Nairobi, on Friday, 16th June 2017 at 11.00 a.m. when the following business will be transacted, namely:

Election of Directors:
In accordance with Article 110 of the Corporation’s Articles of Association, the following Directors retire by rotation and, being eligible, offer themselves for re-election:
i. Mr. Maina Mukoma,
ii. Mr David Kemei,
iii. Mr. Chiboli Shakaba


3) Don't the 3 [Kemei, Mukoma, Shakaba] have another 3-year term from 2017?--It's from 2018.The previous chairperson Nelly Kariuki retired in 2015 when Kemei's term started.

https://www.nation.co.ke...9528-qsypxfz/index.html

“I strongly believe that my compliance with the directive of the Chief of Staff and Head of Public Service was the genesis of the perceived issues with some members of the board of directors of the respondent and in particular those who were due for retirement during the aforesaid AGM of June 16, 2017, as clearly demonstrated by sequence of events that followed,” says Mr Mwarania in an affidavit.


4) Did Rotich out-manuever Kinyua? -- I am not privy to information if Rotich was involved in this fiasco.


This is a fight between the two factions in jubilee.
The Godfather #1 and the president.
It goes back to what i stated that it was a retaliation to Koros sacking
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VituVingiSana
#84 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2018 11:38:33 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]1) If Kinyua told Mwarania to arrange to replace Kemei, then why go after Mwarania and not Kinyua?--Touching Kinyua is getting into the bad books of the president,he can't dare.

Same difference? I can't see Kemei doing this unless he had the support of Rotich and/or Godfather #1

2) If the replacement was to be done on 16th June 2017, during the AGM, then why weren't they (Kemei, Mukoma, Shakaba] replaced? [Didn't GoK vote for them?]--Their term is coming to an end in 2018 not 2017.

NOTICE OF THE 2017 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
Notice is hereby given that the 19th ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING OF KENYA REINSURANCE CORPORATION LIMITED will be held at the Bomas of Kenya, Langata Road, Nairobi, on Friday, 16th June 2017 at 11.00 a.m. when the following business will be transacted, namely:

Election of Directors:
In accordance with Article 110 of the Corporation’s Articles of Association, the following Directors retire by rotation and, being eligible, offer themselves for re-election:
i. Mr. Maina Mukoma,
ii. Mr David Kemei,
iii. Mr. Chiboli Shakaba


3) Don't the 3 [Kemei, Mukoma, Shakaba] have another 3-year term from 2017?--It's from 2018.The previous chairperson Nelly Kariuki retired in 2015 when Kemei's term started.

https://www.nation.co.ke...9528-qsypxfz/index.html

“I strongly believe that my compliance with the directive of the Chief of Staff and Head of Public Service was the genesis of the perceived issues with some members of the board of directors of the respondent and in particular those who were due for retirement during the aforesaid AGM of June 16, 2017, as clearly demonstrated by sequence of events that followed,” says Mr Mwarania in an affidavit.


4) Did Rotich out-manuever Kinyua? -- I am not privy to information if Rotich was involved in this fiasco.


This is a fight between the two factions in jubilee.
The Godfather #1 and the president.
It goes back to what i stated that it was a retaliation to Koros sacking


@Ericsson - You are confusing me but please help clarify the matter at hand.
1) Why did you bring up the "Their term is coming to an end in 2018 not 2017"? [What was the relevance? As per the Notice, Kemei was on the ballot on 16th June 2017]

2) Per the BD article, based on JM's affidavit, Kinyua wrote to JM on 8th June 2017 to "remove" Kemei? Wasn't Koros fired/suspended in March 2018?
Kemei must have been pissed at JM since June 2017. JM said as such in his affidavit.

3) If Kinyua, representing the cabinet/PORK, wanted Kemei out then why did GoK/Treasury vote to retain Kemei during the AGM on 16th June 2017?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#85 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2018 12:52:01 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]1) If Kinyua told Mwarania to arrange to replace Kemei, then why go after Mwarania and not Kinyua?--Touching Kinyua is getting into the bad books of the president,he can't dare.

Same difference? I can't see Kemei doing this unless he had the support of Rotich and/or Godfather #1

2) If the replacement was to be done on 16th June 2017, during the AGM, then why weren't they (Kemei, Mukoma, Shakaba] replaced? [Didn't GoK vote for them?]--Their term is coming to an end in 2018 not 2017.

NOTICE OF THE 2017 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING
Notice is hereby given that the 19th ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING OF KENYA REINSURANCE CORPORATION LIMITED will be held at the Bomas of Kenya, Langata Road, Nairobi, on Friday, 16th June 2017 at 11.00 a.m. when the following business will be transacted, namely:

Election of Directors:
In accordance with Article 110 of the Corporation’s Articles of Association, the following Directors retire by rotation and, being eligible, offer themselves for re-election:
i. Mr. Maina Mukoma,
ii. Mr David Kemei,
iii. Mr. Chiboli Shakaba


3) Don't the 3 [Kemei, Mukoma, Shakaba] have another 3-year term from 2017?--It's from 2018.The previous chairperson Nelly Kariuki retired in 2015 when Kemei's term started.

https://www.nation.co.ke...9528-qsypxfz/index.html

“I strongly believe that my compliance with the directive of the Chief of Staff and Head of Public Service was the genesis of the perceived issues with some members of the board of directors of the respondent and in particular those who were due for retirement during the aforesaid AGM of June 16, 2017, as clearly demonstrated by sequence of events that followed,” says Mr Mwarania in an affidavit.


4) Did Rotich out-manuever Kinyua? -- I am not privy to information if Rotich was involved in this fiasco.


This is a fight between the two factions in jubilee.
The Godfather #1 and the president.
It goes back to what i stated that it was a retaliation to Koros sacking


@Ericsson - You are confusing me but please help clarify the matter at hand.
1) Why did you bring up the "Their term is coming to an end in 2018 not 2017"? [What was the relevance? As per the Notice, Kemei was on the ballot on 16th June 2017]-Lets wait for the AGM 2018

2) Per the BD article, based on JM's affidavit, Kinyua wrote to JM on 8th June 2017 to "remove" Kemei? Wasn't Koros fired/suspended in March 2018?
Kemei must have been pissed at JM since June 2017. JM said as such in his affidavit.--Tit for tat is a fair game

3) If Kinyua, representing the cabinet/PORK, wanted Kemei out then why did GoK/Treasury vote to retain Kemei during the AGM on 16th June 2017?
--My fren we were heading towards an elections and such a move would have had political ramifications.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#86 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2018 8:20:33 PM
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This counter is the equivalent of General electric in the new York stock exchange
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
nashx
#87 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2018 10:29:02 PM
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This counter requires activist (s) investors who can "encourage" the Board and management to perform actions that see shareholder value in NSE unlocked. Should be trading at around 38!!! I remember Unga used to behave like KENRE
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VituVingiSana
#88 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 12:13:07 AM
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nashx wrote:
This counter requires activist (s) investors who can "encourage" the Board and management to perform actions that see shareholder value in NSE unlocked. Should be trading at around 38!!! I remember Unga used to behave like KENRE
GoK owns 60%. Mta-do?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#89 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:52:20 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
nashx wrote:
This counter requires activist (s) investors who can "encourage" the Board and management to perform actions that see shareholder value in NSE unlocked. Should be trading at around 38!!! I remember Unga used to behave like KENRE
GoK owns 60%. Mta-do?


IF GOK sells half of its stake to a strategic investor like Munich Re or any other player looking to make headway into Africa significant value will be unlocked here. It could end up being the next safcom
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#90 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:41:23 AM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
nashx wrote:
This counter requires activist (s) investors who can "encourage" the Board and management to perform actions that see shareholder value in NSE unlocked. Should be trading at around 38!!! I remember Unga used to behave like KENRE
GoK owns 60%. Mta-do?


IF GOK sells half of its stake to a strategic investor like Munich Re or any other player looking to make headway into Africa significant value will be unlocked here. It could end up being the next safcom

Of course, but at the moment that's a pipe dream. Yes, I would be thrilled if this were to happen.
In the meantime, the crooks are in charge.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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