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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2010 Posts: 412 Location: nairobi
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What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher  The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2010 Posts: 412 Location: nairobi
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murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts There's a thread in the green section highlighting the issues with the bus ride The SGR ride is 5hrs by the way "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2010 Posts: 412 Location: nairobi
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murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts There's a thread in the green section highlighting the issues with the bus ride The SGR ride is 5hrs by the way i cant upload my pict.. it has actual comparisons. 5 hrs is train time. If you consider how long it takes to syokimau and then to msa CBD it is 8 hours The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts There's a thread in the green section highlighting the issues with the bus ride The SGR ride is 5hrs by the way i cant upload my pict.. it has actual comparisons. 5 hrs is train time. If you consider how long it takes to syokimau and then to msa CBD it is 8 hours If you take the commuter train at Syokimau you will be at railways in 30-45 mins Personally, i swore NEVER to take a bus again. In 2016 I took a bus from Nrb at 10:30pm and got to Msa the next day at 9. I took a night bus from Msa at 10:00 and got to alight out of it at 11Am the next morning. If you get that bus that gets to Nrb in 8 hrs, good for you "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2009 Posts: 359
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In 2015 I took a bus from Mombasa, left the town at 10am, got to Nairobi at 9pm. In 2017 I took from Nairobi, left at 10pm, got to Mombasa at 8am. You have to be lucky for it to take 8hrs by bus, and if you are unlucky and there is a snarl up at Taru or Lukenya, 24hrs it is
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/22/2015 Posts: 224 Location: Mombasa, Kenya
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shocks wrote:In 2015 I took a bus from Mombasa, left the town at 10am, got to Nairobi at 9pm. In 2017 I took from Nairobi, left at 10pm, got to Mombasa at 8am. You have to be lucky for it to take 8hrs by bus, and if you are unlucky and there is a snarl up at Taru or Lukenya, 24hrs it is The full benefits of SGR would be felt if we had a mass transit system at both ends. Such comparisons as this would be dead on arrival Start!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2010 Posts: 412 Location: nairobi
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a The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Comfort, time and convenience does it for me. Comfort that I can stand and stretch my legs when I desire to do so, Time.. the four uninterrupted hours vs being at the mercy of a traffic jam or dusty road construction and convenience of getting to alight at different stages without having to shout my lungs out at the driver, who decides if and where to drop me depending on his mood!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,472 Location: nairobi
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murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts There's a thread in the green section highlighting the issues with the bus ride The SGR ride is 5hrs by the way It is better to fly
HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/22/2015 Posts: 224 Location: Mombasa, Kenya
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obiero wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts There's a thread in the green section highlighting the issues with the bus ride The SGR ride is 5hrs by the way It is better to fly no doubt. let me guess; fly KQ?  Start!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,472 Location: nairobi
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Metch wrote:obiero wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts There's a thread in the green section highlighting the issues with the bus ride The SGR ride is 5hrs by the way It is better to fly no doubt. let me guess; fly KQ? You said it :)
HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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obiero wrote:Metch wrote:obiero wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts There's a thread in the green section highlighting the issues with the bus ride The SGR ride is 5hrs by the way It is better to fly no doubt. let me guess; fly KQ? You said it :) i still prefer to drive my swift between Mombasa and Nairobi, costs me about 2,500 each way, always fun along the way, stops and detours into camping sites and towns, takes whole day though. If i want to travel fast I take a flight usually around 4500 one-way, the problem with SGR at the moment is timing, it's not very friendly to business people who make up the majority of daily passengers, an evening and early morning train would be nice say 8pm and 6 am. To Each His Own
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2017 Posts: 186 Location: Nairobi
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kayhara wrote:obiero wrote:Metch wrote:obiero wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:murchr wrote:mmarto wrote:What is the actual difference between a road trip(Bus) and SGR. Please see a loose comparison I have come up with. 1. Time taken from Nairobi CBD to Msa CBD is same(8 hrs) 2. SGR fare is actually higher Panda busi then come tell us i cant seem to upload the comparison chart but @murchr go with facts There's a thread in the green section highlighting the issues with the bus ride The SGR ride is 5hrs by the way It is better to fly no doubt. let me guess; fly KQ? You said it :) i still prefer to drive my swift between Mombasa and Nairobi, costs me about 2,500 each way, always fun along the way, stops and detours into camping sites and towns, takes whole day though. If i want to travel fast I take a flight usually around 4500 one-way, the problem with SGR at the moment is timing, it's not very friendly to business people who make up the majority of daily passengers, an evening and early morning train would be nice say 8pm and 6 am. Yeah. Currently as it is, with only morning trips, it's not that attractive..
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2017 Posts: 186 Location: Nairobi
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Politics aside, the costumes/drama aside- especially at check in where the Chinese have extensive checks than Jkia itself (read sniffer dogs...)
A Multi Criteria Analysis indicates SGR to be an unreasonable economic investment. We overspent on the damn project, for what....?! Aside from Awing first time visitors/train users
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,472 Location: nairobi
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Stiffler wrote:Politics aside, the costumes/drama aside- especially at check in where the Chinese have extensive checks than Jkia itself (read sniffer dogs...)
A Multi Criteria Analysis indicates SGR to be an unreasonable economic investment. We overspent on the damn project, for what....?! Aside from Awing first time visitors/train users
Theres nothing ‘awing’ about the SGR service nor the product.. The Ethiopia Djibouti train service is more thrilling
HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2017 Posts: 186 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Stiffler wrote:Politics aside, the costumes/drama aside- especially at check in where the Chinese have extensive checks than Jkia itself (read sniffer dogs...)
A Multi Criteria Analysis indicates SGR to be an unreasonable economic investment. We overspent on the damn project, for what....?! Aside from Awing first time visitors/train users
Theres nothing ‘awing’ about the SGR service nor the product.. The Ethiopia Djibouti train service is more thrilling Well, the boarding routine with the crew in uniform can awe a first timer...
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