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Kenya Power HY18
kawi254
#31 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2018 4:50:06 PM
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Location: Nairobi
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.
Ericsson
#32 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2018 5:54:51 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.


Hopefully there will be an improvement in the cashflow come full year
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Angelica _ann
#33 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2018 7:18:58 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
Ericsson wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.


Hopefully there will be an improvement in the cashflow come full year


Where is the prospectus of Eurobond 2 smile
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VituVingiSana
#34 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2018 8:47:58 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.

A huge chunk of that 35.90 is based off over-priced poles supplied by Arap Mashamba. In the open/transparent market they may be worth just 20% of the stated value!
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Ebenyo
#35 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2018 9:29:18 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
VituVingiSana wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.

A huge chunk of that 35.90 is based off over-priced poles supplied by Arap Mashamba. In the open/transparent market they may be worth just 20% of the stated value!



Talk of the challenge of finding undervalued stocks in Nse!
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ebenyo
#36 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2018 9:44:14 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.



It will largely depend with the management decisions.
For example,now that rains have began,there should be no need to generate more thermal.That should save more than kshs 6 billion in fuel.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Fyatu
#37 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2018 7:56:28 AM
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Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,820
Location: Nakuru
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.

A huge chunk of that 35.90 is based off over-priced poles supplied by Arap Mashamba. In the open/transparent market they may be worth just 20% of the stated value!



Talk of the challenge of finding undervalued stocks in Nse!


With a P.E. of 2.62, EPS of 3.07 and Dividend yield of 6.21%, return on equity of 11.53 % vs industry 8%, and a Gross margin 0f 27%, i believe Kenya power is undervalued. Indeed based on the NAV of 35.90 buying today is like paying 20 cents for one dollar. Furthermore, assuming they will pay a conservative 4% dividend every year, you stand a chance retiring very comfortably courtesy of KP
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heri
#38 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2018 8:28:45 AM
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Joined: 9/14/2011
Posts: 869
Location: nairobi
Fyatu wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.

A huge chunk of that 35.90 is based off over-priced poles supplied by Arap Mashamba. In the open/transparent market they may be worth just 20% of the stated value!



Talk of the challenge of finding undervalued stocks in Nse!


With a P.E. of 2.62, EPS of 3.07 and Dividend yield of 6.21%, return on equity of 11.53 % vs industry 8%, and a Gross margin 0f 27%, i believe Kenya power is undervalued. Indeed based on the NAV of 35.90 buying today is like paying 20 cents for one dollar. Furthermore, assuming they will pay a conservative 4% dividend every year, you stand a chance retiring very comfortably courtesy of KP


someone had mentioned some loans which were not disclosed . what was that about?
the deal
#39 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2018 8:46:05 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/25/2009
Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
Problem is generation capacity is growing at a much faster pace than electricity sales... Sales to industries shrank by 1% in HY2018 .Kenyan economy must be doing badly or industries are turning to alternatives due to Kenya Power incompetence... Soon this company will find itself in a huge liquidity crisis unless GoK injects money into it... Already in HY2018 they took a huge overdraft facility to starve off a liquidity crisis...
Ebenyo
#40 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2018 8:46:58 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Fyatu wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/Concern-over-Kenya-Power-s-share-price/4259442-4322220-h8v3yjz/index.html

The price of mismanagement.
The company is joining the likes of Uchumi, Mumias sugar,east africa portland Cement

Oh yes....good thing this one is a guaranteed bail out because of the monopoly factor. It cannot shut down. Waiting for Ksh6 to print then i start jumping in then sell as soon as it hits 10.


Hidden in all the accounting mumbo jumbo is the fact that Kenya Power spent a lot of money rolling out street lights in major towns and connecting consumers for #GoKDelivers election campaigns and they have not been paid. A part of Eurobond 2 will be given to Kenya Power to correct it's accounts and full year results will be looking better.

A huge chunk of that 35.90 is based off over-priced poles supplied by Arap Mashamba. In the open/transparent market they may be worth just 20% of the stated value!



Talk of the challenge of finding undervalued stocks in Nse!


With a P.E. of 2.62, EPS of 3.07 and Dividend yield of 6.21%, return on equity of 11.53 % vs industry 8%, and a Gross margin 0f 27%, i believe Kenya power is undervalued. Indeed based on the NAV of 35.90 buying today is like paying 20 cents for one dollar. Furthermore, assuming they will pay a conservative 4% dividend every year, you stand a chance retiring very comfortably courtesy of KP


Thats great insight @fyatu.
Gok owns 50% of the company shareholding hence the controlling stake.If this could be shaken up a little bit,so that kenya power get sound management,this will be the best company to invest in NSE.
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