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Kenya Power HY18
milken
#11 Posted : Friday, February 23, 2018 8:32:52 PM
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Do these figures make sense? From the same accounts, customer numbers stand at 6.5M, with monthly standing charges @175,this is over 11B a year. Does it mean that no money is made from electricity sales?
Itari muting'oe ihuragwo ngi ni Ngai
Ebenyo
#12 Posted : Friday, February 23, 2018 9:33:16 PM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Cash flow statement and balance sheet



Company may require government bailout soon.
The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying




No need for bailout currently.
The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000
to kshs 285,153,000,000.
In my opinion this is manageable.
There are some measures the company could do like:
1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others.
2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others.
3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting.

Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts.
They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#13 Posted : Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:16:42 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Cash flow statement and balance sheet



Company may require government bailout soon.
The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying




No need for bailout currently.
The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000
to kshs 285,153,000,000.
In my opinion this is manageable.
There are some measures the company could do like:
1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others.
2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others.
3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting.

Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts.
They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances.


@ebenyo
Your analysis doesn't make sense.
Your reasoning is from a fantasy world.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ebenyo
#14 Posted : Saturday, February 24, 2018 8:20:57 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Cash flow statement and balance sheet



Company may require government bailout soon.
The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying




No need for bailout currently.
The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000
to kshs 285,153,000,000.
In my opinion this is manageable.
There are some measures the company could do like:
1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others.
2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others.
3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting.

Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts.
They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances.


@ebenyo
Your analysis doesn't make sense.
Your reasoning is from a fantasy world.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue.

Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#15 Posted : Saturday, February 24, 2018 9:04:35 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
This loans of kenya power is there value for money or which projects can one point to where the money has been used.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#16 Posted : Saturday, February 24, 2018 9:06:32 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Cash flow statement and balance sheet



Company may require government bailout soon.
The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying




No need for bailout currently.
The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000
to kshs 285,153,000,000.
In my opinion this is manageable.
There are some measures the company could do like:
1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others.
2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others.
3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting.

Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts.
They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances.


@ebenyo
Your analysis doesn't make sense.
Your reasoning is from a fantasy world.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue.

Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income.


Seems you don't understand how kenya power operates. You are better off keeping quiet
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ebenyo
#17 Posted : Saturday, February 24, 2018 9:40:03 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Cash flow statement and balance sheet



Company may require government bailout soon.
The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying




No need for bailout currently.
The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000
to kshs 285,153,000,000.
In my opinion this is manageable.
There are some measures the company could do like:
1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others.
2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others.
3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting.

Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts.
They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances.


@ebenyo
Your analysis doesn't make sense.
Your reasoning is from a fantasy world.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue.

Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income.


Seems you don't understand how kenya power operates. You are better off keeping quiet


sawa,wacha tungoje full year results in November.I have been going through their current annual report and will continue to do so to get more details.I now have both full year and hy results which i will also continue to peruse.In the full year results,the transmission and distribution costs were high and now the short loans are becoming a burden.Lets wait and see what next.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
wukan
#18 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2018 12:39:14 PM
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Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,654
with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense.
mlennyma
#19 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2018 1:21:52 PM
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Joined: 7/21/2010
Posts: 6,194
Location: nairobi
wukan wrote:
with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense.

politics and business mix up
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Kausha
#20 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2018 9:45:53 PM
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Joined: 2/8/2007
Posts: 808
mlennyma wrote:
wukan wrote:
with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense.

politics and business mix up


Or may the economic growth is not more than 5%. Power consumption is always a very good proxy for GDP increase unless when there is rationing..So 2.3% sales increase is indeed cause for serious concern.
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