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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2008 Posts: 192 Location: Nairobi
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Do these figures make sense? From the same accounts, customer numbers stand at 6.5M, with monthly standing charges @175,this is over 11B a year. Does it mean that no money is made from electricity sales? Itari muting'oe ihuragwo ngi ni Ngai
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 2,016 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet  Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet  Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. @ebenyo Your analysis doesn't make sense. Your reasoning is from a fantasy world. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 2,016 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet  Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. @ebenyo Your analysis doesn't make sense. Your reasoning is from a fantasy world. They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue. Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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This loans of kenya power is there value for money or which projects can one point to where the money has been used. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet  Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. @ebenyo Your analysis doesn't make sense. Your reasoning is from a fantasy world. They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue. Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income. Seems you don't understand how kenya power operates. You are better off keeping quiet Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 2,016 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet  Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. @ebenyo Your analysis doesn't make sense. Your reasoning is from a fantasy world. They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue. Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income. Seems you don't understand how kenya power operates. You are better off keeping quiet sawa,wacha tungoje full year results in November.I have been going through their current annual report and will continue to do so to get more details.I now have both full year and hy results which i will also continue to peruse.In the full year results,the transmission and distribution costs were high and now the short loans are becoming a burden.Lets wait and see what next. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,654
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with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,194 Location: nairobi
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wukan wrote:with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense. politics and business mix up "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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mlennyma wrote:wukan wrote:with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense. politics and business mix up Or may the economic growth is not more than 5%. Power consumption is always a very good proxy for GDP increase unless when there is rationing..So 2.3% sales increase is indeed cause for serious concern.
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