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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Full results link: https://view.publitas.co...iod-ended-31st-dec-2017/Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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PBT down 19% -Slow down of KE econ -Increase in financing costs Electricity sales UP 2.3% to 3,893 GWh Sales revenue UP 2.5% to Kshs. 46,931 million Power purchase costs UP to Kshs27,429 million. -attributed to 2% increase in units purchased, 4,882 GWh Thermal used increased 47% to 1,301 GWh -Poor hydrology Transmission and distribution costs UP 5% to Kshs. 15,814 million -Higher operational and maintenance costs -Depreciation Finance costs UP to Kshs. 3,257 million Cash balances "decreased significantly duw to aggressive implementation of capital projects" Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Cash flow statement and balance sheet Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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This one is headed to the crooked Me Zero One days, smiling from the sidelines. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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[quote=Pesa Nane] Full results link: https://view.publitas.co...od-ended-31st-dec-2017/[/quote] Thermal generation is expensive.They could try getting an alternative which will bring value.There is no need of using kshs 12 billion only to get kshs 11 billion. Overdrafts facilities is now becoming burdensome.They should look at cheaper options. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Ebenyo wrote:[quote=Pesa Nane] Full results link: https://view.publitas.co...od-ended-31st-dec-2017/[/quote] Thermal generation is expensive.They could try getting an alternative which will bring value.There is no need of using kshs 12 billion only to get kshs 11 billion. Overdrafts facilities is now becoming burdensome.They should look at cheaper options. We will go back to Aggreko soon In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 969 Location: Kenya
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Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying Negative cashflow is a worrying sign. I see 5-7 bob printing soon
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2008 Posts: 192 Location: Nairobi
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Do these figures make sense? From the same accounts, customer numbers stand at 6.5M, with monthly standing charges @175,this is over 11B a year. Does it mean that no money is made from electricity sales? Itari muting'oe ihuragwo ngi ni Ngai
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. @ebenyo Your analysis doesn't make sense. Your reasoning is from a fantasy world. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. @ebenyo Your analysis doesn't make sense. Your reasoning is from a fantasy world. They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue. Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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This loans of kenya power is there value for money or which projects can one point to where the money has been used. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. @ebenyo Your analysis doesn't make sense. Your reasoning is from a fantasy world. They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue. Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income. Seems you don't understand how kenya power operates. You are better off keeping quiet Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Ericsson wrote:Cash flow statement and balance sheet Company may require government bailout soon. The debt level and negative cash flow is worrying No need for bailout currently. The debt level increased by 24% from kshs 229,994,000,000 to kshs 285,153,000,000. In my opinion this is manageable. There are some measures the company could do like: 1.Negotiating for cheaper power purchase from sellers e.g kengen and others. 2.They can get fuel at a good price from a good company like kenol and others. 3.Forcing the Gok to pay for transmission and distribution costs of its initiated plans like last mile and street lighting. Cash flow has increased to negative 7,743,000,000.This is mainly due temporary overdrafts. They can use the long term debt for these as its repayment will not bring strain to company finances. @ebenyo Your analysis doesn't make sense. Your reasoning is from a fantasy world. They used kshs 12,294,000,000 on fuel to generate thermal.Then they got kshs 11,637,000,000.What is that? They should stop generating thermal.With the 12 bilion they can use 7 billion to ease the cash flow and the balance of 5 billion they can buy cheap power and get more revenue. Finance income was kshs 52,000,000.These is an avenue which could be grown to generate more income. Seems you don't understand how kenya power operates. You are better off keeping quiet sawa,wacha tungoje full year results in November.I have been going through their current annual report and will continue to do so to get more details.I now have both full year and hy results which i will also continue to peruse.In the full year results,the transmission and distribution costs were high and now the short loans are becoming a burden.Lets wait and see what next. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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wukan wrote:with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense. politics and business mix up "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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mlennyma wrote:wukan wrote:with economic growth at >5% to see electricity sales growing at 2.3% means Kenya power is heading for the ICU. I would expect minimum 8% growth in electricity sales for the debt to make sense. politics and business mix up Or may the economic growth is not more than 5%. Power consumption is always a very good proxy for GDP increase unless when there is rationing..So 2.3% sales increase is indeed cause for serious concern.
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