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Quote:Mr Njuguna did not ,however, give a timeline for the implementation of the project. Let me remind you of a project which had timelines. I'm sure you're enjoying the services now Quote:An ambitious $150 million (Sh15 billion) urban passenger train connecting Nairobi suburbs to the city centre is set to be launched by June.
The project, co-financed by Kenya and Hungary, will ease traffic congestion in the city besides transferring technology to Kenyans.
President Uhuru Kenyatta welcomed the city tram project on Friday saying " development-conscious Kenyan would oppose such a programme".
He spoke on Friday during talks with Hungary Ambassador to Kenya Eduard Laszlo Mathe, who had paid him a courtesy call at State House, Nairobi.
The President said phase one of the project will connect the Standard Gauge Railway end point in Nairobi to the railway station in the city centre.
Other branches will connect the suburbs with the station. The proposed branches of the train project will include Thika Road, Ngong Road, Ongata Rongai and Limuru Road, all connecting to the city centre
The President directed the Transport ministry to ensure the project is completed on schedule.
He explained that Hungarian engineers will train their Kenyan counterparts to make materials and transfer the skills to manage the project.
The Hungarian ambassador said the proposed tram service will transform the way people in the capital city get to work.
“It is expected to transport about 300,000 passengers a day and even more when all the branches are fully operational,” he said.
“In line with Hungary’s new foreign policy for Africa to reinforce economic relations, we will train and equip Kenyans with skills to develop the project and own it. This project will be made in Kenya,."
The envoy disclosed that his country has implemented a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
On education, the ambassador pointed out that his country will provide Kenya with 50 postgraduate scholarships.
Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia and senior officials of the ministry were at the meeting. Rink If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:Quote:Mr Njuguna did not ,however, give a timeline for the implementation of the project. Let me remind you of a project which had timelines. I'm sure you're enjoying the services now Quote:An ambitious $150 million (Sh15 billion) urban passenger train connecting Nairobi suburbs to the city centre is set to be launched by June.
The project, co-financed by Kenya and Hungary, will ease traffic congestion in the city besides transferring technology to Kenyans.
President Uhuru Kenyatta welcomed the city tram project on Friday saying " development-conscious Kenyan would oppose such a programme".
He spoke on Friday during talks with Hungary Ambassador to Kenya Eduard Laszlo Mathe, who had paid him a courtesy call at State House, Nairobi.
The President said phase one of the project will connect the Standard Gauge Railway end point in Nairobi to the railway station in the city centre.
Other branches will connect the suburbs with the station. The proposed branches of the train project will include Thika Road, Ngong Road, Ongata Rongai and Limuru Road, all connecting to the city centre
The President directed the Transport ministry to ensure the project is completed on schedule.
He explained that Hungarian engineers will train their Kenyan counterparts to make materials and transfer the skills to manage the project.
The Hungarian ambassador said the proposed tram service will transform the way people in the capital city get to work.
“It is expected to transport about 300,000 passengers a day and even more when all the branches are fully operational,” he said.
“In line with Hungary’s new foreign policy for Africa to reinforce economic relations, we will train and equip Kenyans with skills to develop the project and own it. This project will be made in Kenya,."
The envoy disclosed that his country has implemented a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
On education, the ambassador pointed out that his country will provide Kenya with 50 postgraduate scholarships.
Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia and senior officials of the ministry were at the meeting. Rink Some threads you open, laugh and retreat!!!  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:Swenani wrote:Quote:Mr Njuguna did not ,however, give a timeline for the implementation of the project. Let me remind you of a project which had timelines. I'm sure you're enjoying the services now Quote:An ambitious $150 million (Sh15 billion) urban passenger train connecting Nairobi suburbs to the city centre is set to be launched by June.
The project, co-financed by Kenya and Hungary, will ease traffic congestion in the city besides transferring technology to Kenyans.
President Uhuru Kenyatta welcomed the city tram project on Friday saying " development-conscious Kenyan would oppose such a programme".
He spoke on Friday during talks with Hungary Ambassador to Kenya Eduard Laszlo Mathe, who had paid him a courtesy call at State House, Nairobi.
The President said phase one of the project will connect the Standard Gauge Railway end point in Nairobi to the railway station in the city centre.
Other branches will connect the suburbs with the station. The proposed branches of the train project will include Thika Road, Ngong Road, Ongata Rongai and Limuru Road, all connecting to the city centre
The President directed the Transport ministry to ensure the project is completed on schedule.
He explained that Hungarian engineers will train their Kenyan counterparts to make materials and transfer the skills to manage the project.
The Hungarian ambassador said the proposed tram service will transform the way people in the capital city get to work.
“It is expected to transport about 300,000 passengers a day and even more when all the branches are fully operational,” he said.
“In line with Hungary’s new foreign policy for Africa to reinforce economic relations, we will train and equip Kenyans with skills to develop the project and own it. This project will be made in Kenya,."
The envoy disclosed that his country has implemented a similar project in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
On education, the ambassador pointed out that his country will provide Kenya with 50 postgraduate scholarships.
Transport Cabinet Secretary James Macharia and senior officials of the ministry were at the meeting. Rink Some threads you open, laugh and retreat!!!  Because Outering and Thika rds were Babas' projects @ Angelica Ann  Your Project ni matusi tu You are a student who always do good copying class work but fail main exam coz nowhere to copy.
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How would you like to see "Kibaki Close" look like connecting Moi Avenue to Workshop -Bunyala-Dunga roads?
Should it help move part of the current railway station PSV buses to Land Mawe?
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Realtreaty wrote:How would you like to see "Kibaki Close" look like connecting Moi Avenue to Workshop -Bunyala-Dunga roads?
Should it help move part of the current railway station PSV buses to Land Mawe? It's a good idea.. They can overpass the NCR and have a landing at Landi Mawe onwards to CMC ukielekea Matter Hospital
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obiero wrote:Realtreaty wrote:How would you like to see "Kibaki Close" look like connecting Moi Avenue to Workshop -Bunyala-Dunga roads?
Should it help move part of the current railway station PSV buses to Land Mawe? It's a good idea.. They can overpass the NCR and have a landing at Landi Mawe onwards to CMC ukielekea Matter Hospital  This is the ROAD that will open up CBD and ease traffic that pours on Uhuru and Ladhies -Jogoo roads.
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Nairobi was made for surface operations and reason the white looked for flat land to settle as a base during railway erection.
Dubai NEVER stops constructions....Roads-bridges, overpasses, underpasses, canals and Tall buildings are the order of the day.
Nairobi is too behind to implement some of the obvious much needed projects.
Railway station is a property of Railways corporation that is a Govt Parastatal and Govt ought to give access to other projects that could open up Nairobi traffic both Pedestrians and automobiles.
Think of linking Hamza in Makadara to Nyanyuki road in Industrial area with a link road to reduce traffic on Likoni and the road from Donholm to industrial area.
Link Kirinyaga road to ngara with a road not footpath for Matatus 6 , 9, 14, 32, 17B, 47, 44 etc
Expand Moi Avenue from Commercial- Ambassadeur- to Haileselassie avenue with an overpass /underpass to Landmawe-Workshop -Dunga rds (Kibaki close)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 454 Location: Nairobi
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Realtreaty wrote:Nairobi was made for surface operations and reason the white looked for flat land to settle as a base during railway erection.
Dubai NEVER stops constructions....Roads-bridges, overpasses, underpasses, canals and Tall buildings are the order of the day.
Nairobi is too behind to implement some of the obvious much needed projects.
Railway station is a property of Railways corporation that is a Govt Parastatal and Govt ought to give access to other projects that could open up Nairobi traffic both Pedestrians and automobiles.
Think of linking Hamza in Makadara to Nyanyuki road in Industrial area with a link road to reduce traffic on Likoni and the road from Donholm to industrial area.
Link Kirinyaga road to ngara with a road not footpath for Matatus 6 , 9, 14, 32, 17B, 47, 44 etc
Expand Moi Avenue from Commercial- Ambassadeur- to Haileselassie avenue with an overpass /underpass to Landmawe-Workshop -Dunga rds (Kibaki close) In my view, only light rail(Metro train) can make real change in reducing traffic in Nairobi.Building new bypass, overpass, underpass will just be a cosmetic change. We have heavy inbound traffic every morning in Thika road- despite its expansion. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Nairobi needs a multi storey underground car parks and Matatu termini at Uhuru park grounds and other strategic junctions . Uhuru park can absorb traffic from Langata road, Mombasa road, Ngong Road and waiyaki way. The car park can also host the menacing Hawkers and other street businesses currently suffocating the CBD . Globe cinema roundabout, Gikomba market and Machakos Bus Station can have similar Car parks and Matatu termini to cater for traffic from Eastlands and the North of Nairobi.
Once implemented, Matatus should only be allowed in for a set period of time to pick up passangers or each route be allocated a number of spaces.
No vehicles should be allowed in the CBD. A light rail system should be in place to link up all the termini and the CBD.
Maoni tuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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Rongla wrote:Nairobi needs a multi storey underground car parks and Matatu termini at Uhuru park grounds and other strategic junctions . Uhuru park can absorb traffic from Langata road, Mombasa road, Ngong Road and waiyaki way. The car park can also host the menacing Hawkers and other street businesses currently suffocating the CBD . Globe cinema roundabout, Gikomba market and Machakos Bus Station can have similar Car parks and Matatu termini to cater for traffic from Eastlands and the North of Nairobi.
Once implemented, Matatus should only be allowed in for a set period of time to pick up passangers or each route be allocated a number of spaces.
No vehicles should be allowed in the CBD. A light rail system should be in place to link up all the termini and the CBD.
Maoni tuu
I disagree with the Uhuru park suggestion. Uhuru park is a beautiful place full of trees and grass and should not be defiled by diesel emitting matatus and over defecating makangas, hawkers and chokoraas. Most of Nairobi's traffic is caused by matatus. If you look at Mombasa road, there is always traffic near general motors because matatus drop and pick passengers on a stage around there.There is always traffick near belle view, and near cabannas heading to town dueto a bus stop just near the cabanas eastern bypass flyover. On thika road there is traffic hapo garden city, allsops, survey, mathare mental hospital and Ngara and guess why.....? There are unofficial bus stops in these areas. On Ngong road, there is traffic around Kenyatta hospital area and you can guess why.I can go on and on with my examples.. My suggestion is to copy Dar es saalam and their Ubungo model. Matatu termini should be 15 kms from CBD. Any estate within 15km radius should be served by light rail/bus rapid transport etc. Anything short of that means we remain shithole citizens who will continue swallowing diesel poisons/emissions from dozen matatus at Kencom,ambassador,Tom Mboya street, Ronald Ngala street, Accra road etc in our chaotic overrated city Nairobi.You build a superhighway in the name of outering road and stil allow matatus and pedestrians/commuters to board and alight/cross the road anywhere they wish. If this is not a testament of how dumb we are then i don't know what is. Another suggestion is to have matatus travel express e.g., they get filled-up in the estate termini say pipeline Embakassi or Kayole termini, and then travel direct without dropping passengers until they reach town termini Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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tinker wrote:Realtreaty wrote:Nairobi was made for surface operations and reason the white looked for flat land to settle as a base during railway erection.
Dubai NEVER stops constructions....Roads-bridges, overpasses, underpasses, canals and Tall buildings are the order of the day.
Nairobi is too behind to implement some of the obvious much needed projects.
Railway station is a property of Railways corporation that is a Govt Parastatal and Govt ought to give access to other projects that could open up Nairobi traffic both Pedestrians and automobiles.
Think of linking Hamza in Makadara to Nyanyuki road in Industrial area with a link road to reduce traffic on Likoni and the road from Donholm to industrial area.
Link Kirinyaga road to ngara with a road not footpath for Matatus 6 , 9, 14, 32, 17B, 47, 44 etc
Expand Moi Avenue from Commercial- Ambassadeur- to Haileselassie avenue with an overpass /underpass to Landmawe-Workshop -Dunga rds (Kibaki close) In my view, only light rail(Metro train) can make real change in reducing traffic in Nairobi. Building new bypass, overpass, underpass will just be a cosmetic change. We have heavy inbound traffic every morning in Thika road- despite its expansion. Why build all these and yet allow matatus,pedestrian, hawkers, chokoraas, pickpockets to set up unofficial bustops, markets on the superhighway where matatus will always cause traffick in the name of picking and dropping passengers as well as kuomba njia to join the express way etc. I thoght the reason to build the superhighways was to have town to town express connections e.g., from Githurai to CBD without dropping passengers at survey, mathare hospital etc Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Maybe we can also think 'outside the box'.
Like why not have clean energy 'flying brooms' with traffic allowed at between a height of x meters and y meters above the ground?
And then we plant trees and tree-stops connected to foot paths and roads and the lands and settlements.
Then convert most present day car parks and garages etc into play and recreation grounds and nature parks.
Say also have many herbal gardens around cities and settlements to support a revamped health policy...
That is create a world of our project.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Given materials, some money and a small team, it can take us less than 3 years to develop a flying broom.
And around 50 years to completely phase out motor vehicles as we know them, and an interesting thing is that given enough strategy and force we can be exporting our 'brooms' to undeveloped countries like the USA, Japan, and China.
Have a distributed manufacture kind of thing where Kenyan made products are built/manufactured in China, India ... Or even Russia and sold in situ.
We can make Kenya a super power in less than a century.
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How many Rail stations are there from Syokimau to Kikuyu via city center. KR should improve on making more stations with all requirements so that someone can move from Donholm and alight at city stadium without going to city center and again boarding a matatu.
For better operation every 2 to 3 KM should have a station along the line.
By doing so the KR will make more money, operate throughout and be loved by commuters.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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The four Cities in Nairobi that need metro rail or tram to CBD
1. Industrial area via South B, dunga w/shop Rd
2. Upper hill and KNH
3. Westlands
4. Eastleigh via Gikomba-Juja Rd, pangani-ngara
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 454 Location: Nairobi
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Realtreaty wrote:The four Cities in Nairobi that need metro rail or tram to CBD
1. Industrial area via South B, dunga w/shop Rd
2. Upper hill and KNH
3. Westlands
4. Eastleigh via Gikomba-Juja Rd, pangani-ngara
There is no Nairobi without its suburbs-the dormitory where Wanjikus and Wekesas who works in CBD can afford rent. Any useful tram/light rail must incorporate the 30 KM radius of Nairobi - The Metropolitan. Image a reliable Tram somehow passing through, Githurai, Mwiki, Kayole,Umoja town. Kikuyu-Kangemi-Westlands-town Ngong-Kawangware,Kibera-Town. Kiserian-Rongai-Town Kitengela-Athririver-Mlolongo-Pipeline-Utawala -town. This would reduce CBD traffic by not less than 50%. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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