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Wororo
#191 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 3:10:50 PM
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kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Wororo wrote:
Airtel Bharti in plans to list it's African Ops vehicle - Bharti Airtel International - with aim of reducing it's debt



This could be an option for those passed by safaricom.
They will have to prove their profitability and sustainable onward growth.Otherwise it will just be speculators den.

Will it even list on the NSE?



Airtel Tanzania has not listed on DSE even after Tanzanian Govt making it mandatory (speaking of which there was a requirement by then CCK for all local Kenyan Telcos to list after 5 years -which passed years ago..how come Orange/Telkom and Airtel still not listed on NSE?)

Airtel Africa is only making money in countries where they are the dominant operator e.g Zambia. By going public Bharti wants to offload a monkey(s)


On the contrary, Airtel Africa made $52 in Q1

January 2018, it was reported that they made $76m profits for the October to December period... They've made profits for several quarters
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Angelica _ann
#192 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 5:11:42 PM
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As i had said, Safaricom has refused/defied the anticipated bullback!!! Since 2012, show me when TA showed that Safaricom will drop to a certain level and it obeyed????? It is TA guys who have been adjusting their positions upwards.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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obiero
#193 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 6:09:41 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
As i had said, Safaricom has refused/defied the anticipated bullback!!! Since 2012, show me when TA showed that Safaricom will drop to a certain level and it obeyed????? It is TA guys who have been adjusting their positions upwards.

True. But is it bullback or pullback 😁

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Ericsson
#194 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 6:10:27 PM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
As i had said, Safaricom has refused/defied the anticipated bullback!!! Since 2012, show me when TA showed that Safaricom will drop to a certain level and it obeyed????? It is TA guys who have been adjusting their positions upwards.

True. But is it bullback or pullback 😁

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murchr
#195 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 6:32:42 PM
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Wororo wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
watesh wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Wororo wrote:
Airtel Bharti in plans to list it's African Ops vehicle - Bharti Airtel International - with aim of reducing it's debt



This could be an option for those passed by safaricom.
They will have to prove their profitability and sustainable onward growth.Otherwise it will just be speculators den.

Will it even list on the NSE?



Airtel Tanzania has not listed on DSE even after Tanzanian Govt making it mandatory (speaking of which there was a requirement by then CCK for all local Kenyan Telcos to list after 5 years -which passed years ago..how come Orange/Telkom and Airtel still not listed on NSE?)

Airtel Africa is only making money in countries where they are the dominant operator e.g Zambia. By going public Bharti wants to offload a monkey(s)


On the contrary, Airtel Africa made $52 in Q1

January 2018, it was reported that they made $76m profits for the October to December period... They've made profits for several quarters


How much did Airtel Kenya make?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#196 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 6:36:34 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
As i had said, Safaricom has refused/defied the anticipated bullback!!! Since 2012, show me when TA showed that Safaricom will drop to a certain level and it obeyed????? It is TA guys who have been adjusting their positions upwards.

True. But is it bullback or pullback 😁

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


I have been relating too much with @Swenani mpaka am acquiring the accentsmile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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VituVingiSana
#197 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 8:26:22 PM
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[quote=Ericsson]Latest Central Bank of Kenya data shows growth of mobile payments slowed from 19 per cent in 2016 to 8 per cent in 2017

https://www.nation.co.ke...8328-b47g7xz/index.html[/quote]
The growth is likely to slow down over time as the "base" grows BUT I see further growth for many years as more businesses accept mobile money. Another driver is moving more GoK payments to Mobile Money.
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Cornelius Vanderbilt
#198 Posted : Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:27:48 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
As i had said, Safaricom has refused/defied the anticipated bullback!!! Since 2012, show me when TA showed that Safaricom will drop to a certain level and it obeyed????? It is TA guys who have been adjusting their positions upwards.


be weary of a stock/security that refuses to retrace /pullback/bullback. a retracement from a TA perspective is always healthy for a stock coz the stock recharges to reach newer height now that it has new buyers (who entered during pullback) when the pullback comes for a stock that had refused to pullback for a long period of time we know how it goes....look at bitcoin now.
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Ericsson
#199 Posted : Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:35:34 PM
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
As i had said, Safaricom has refused/defied the anticipated bullback!!! Since 2012, show me when TA showed that Safaricom will drop to a certain level and it obeyed????? It is TA guys who have been adjusting their positions upwards.


be weary of a stock/security that refuses to retrace /pullback/bullback. a retracement from a TA perspective is always healthy for a stock coz the stock recharges to reach newer height now that it has new buyers (who entered during pullback) when the pullback comes for a stock that had refused to pullback for a long period of time we know how it goes....look at bitcoin now.


@Cornelius
That philosophy isn't universal.
Before tying it to a specific counter look at the fundamentals of the counter otherwise kwenda nayo
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MadDoc
#200 Posted : Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:16:36 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
As i had said, Safaricom has refused/defied the anticipated bullback!!! Since 2012, show me when TA showed that Safaricom will drop to a certain level and it obeyed????? It is TA guys who have been adjusting their positions upwards.


be weary of a stock/security that refuses to retrace /pullback/bullback. a retracement from a TA perspective is always healthy for a stock coz the stock recharges to reach newer height now that it has new buyers (who entered during pullback) when the pullback comes for a stock that had refused to pullback for a long period of time we know how it goes....look at bitcoin now.


@Cornelius
That philosophy isn't universal.
Before tying it to a specific counter look at the fundamentals of the counter otherwise kwenda nayo


TAs still waiting for Safaricom at 15. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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