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#31 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 5:17:35 PM
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Fullykenyan wrote:

All over sudden Kibaki was a good president. However, during his reign, guys never gave him peace of mind. unnecessary politics is what is stunting africa´s growth

Some of us were called names for saying that one day people would speak of Kibaki like they do now
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#32 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 5:40:00 PM
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Me zinks both Mutua and Kivutha are okay.

I would go with Mutua's approach though: start with water. This is the most basic need for now.

I think it's not fair for us to point at either Mutua or Kivutha and say they're doing the wrong thing. Both processing plants and water connection are needed. In fact, the fact that we have so many needs competing for the little funds at disposal at county level is a sure indicator that our country is still far behind and that our devolution experiment is working despite the initial scepticism.

There will be lots of new stuff to be done especially for counties that were marginalised or are in drylands for even the next 30 years.

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murchr
#33 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 5:43:07 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Yaani the same people saying that govt role should be to set up infrastructure are the same people supporting and asking the uninformed wazuans to give gaarment time to run and manage SGR to start making MONEY.Same people who said it was better to start somewhere with diesel locomotives but not okay for Makueni gaarment to start somewhere with water pans and grading earth roads.

ujinga ingine ni ya kujipaka


Isnt SGR INFRASTRUCTURE? This wazuan here is of the opinion that govt shouldn't seek to profit from the rail - FRM is the one who's been of the idea that the rail should be making profit now.


On Makueni. I can clearly see where the constitutional prof is coming from. He has noted that his county is poor and identified areas where they as a county residents would benefit and his ideas are noble. Now, in as much as building a mango/fruit factory is necessary, the investment in the plant would have been better in the long run if it was done by a Sacco, or a specialized company as an investor. Govt is not good in running business because the players change, the next governor may not have an interest in mango production hence neglecting any maintenance and upgrading of the facility. We all know how parastatals ended up.

If this investment was channeled to water projects like the Nol Turesh - Nzai water tank which has a capacity of 13.6 million litres wouldn't it be wise to invest in the distribution of this water allover Makueni? And wouldn't all kinds of fruit/veg processors want to be in Makueni if there are good roads, reliable water, and proper policies in place?



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FRM2011
#34 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 6:00:09 PM
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The biggest problem here is our lack of appreciation of what makes Makueni tick. ZERO CORRUPTION.

Makueni govt has approached poverty reduction in two strategies. Boost household income and provide safety nets for the vulnerable.

Almost every household has a few mango and orange trees. The brokers have been having a field day exploiting these poor farmers. Now there is a ready buyer offering fair prices. Household earnings from mangoes have skyrocketed. Brokers used to buy @3/- per fruit.

They have a new slogan in Kikamba that every home and some milk. (O nyumba na kalia). And again the county govt is offering a ready market. Makueni fresh. Muranga has been trying to set their milk processing plant but it will put the governor on a collision course with our monarch family.

Why were KCC, KMC, KPCU successful ventures until the Moi era crooks laid their hands on them ? Because government can actually run highly efficient organizations.

The late Gachagua tried to fix the mess with coffee prices in Nyeri and the cartels came out fighting with all they got. Had he succeeded, Nyeri would have been the first success story of devolution.

Once again, Jubilee people understand government to be the place you go to enrich yourself. You can't view Kivutha Kibwana with such lenses. That is why Makueni looks surreal to you. You must be wondering how he will recover his campaign money. How he will get his cut if he pays farmers so much for their mangoes. The truth is he won't. I know its difficult to believe but not everyone wants to be a billionaire arap singh style.
murchr
#35 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 6:17:49 PM
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We'll only know if there is any corruption once the auditor's report is out.
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washiku
#36 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 6:23:51 PM
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Prof has not just done Mangoes and Milk alone(which are fine by the way) as its being put here by some, he actually started with basics. HEALTH. ROADS. The roads may not be tarmac, but they are passable. He is doing very well by any standard. On water, he is part of the initiative to build the mega Ukambani dam in partnership with central govt.

Prof is doing just fine. Wetu in Nyeri on the other side, pitySad
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#37 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 6:32:12 PM
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washiku wrote:
Prof has not just done Mangoes and Milk alone(which are fine by the way) as its being put here by some, he actually started with basics. HEALTH. ROADS. The roads may not be tarmac, but they are passable. He is doing very well by any standard. On water, he is part of the initiative to build the mega Ukambani dam in partnership with central govt.

Prof is doing just fine. Wetu in Nyeri on the other side, pitySad


It's called the "kumira Kumira syndrome".

Those who were in Makueni before devolution and now have nothing but praise.

Remember, this place was sooooo poor roads were not even thought of by anyone.

Let the governors in Eastern Province do what they will. At least they are doing something. Ngilu is now fighting those stealing their trees. She's so effective that guys in Limuru were throwing tantrums.

Those governors from Eastern province are doing a great job. We may not agree with their methods like Alfies Selfies, but things are changing there.

In Central, we are still. Kumira Kumira Uthamaki ni Witu.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#38 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 6:36:25 PM
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washiku wrote:
Prof has not just done Mangoes and Milk alone as its being put here by some, he actually started with basics. HEALTH. ROADS. The roads may not be tarmac, but they are passable. He is doing very well by any standard. On water, he is part of the initiative to build the mega Ukambani dam in partnership with central govt.

Prof is doing just fine. Wetu in Nyeri on the other side, pitySad


I like his approach to on the milk plant. Kikima dairy co-op is running the plant. He's collaborating with KENHA to build bridges across the county. On health, let him experiment on that it doesnt hurt to try. The rest of the country can learn from Makueni but its sustainability may overstretch the budget.

Noble ideas but approach.
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Angelica _ann
#39 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 6:48:03 PM
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murchr wrote:
We'll only know if there is any corruption once the auditor's report is out.


kwani how many audits reports have we had since Prof. became Governor and what are the levels of audit queries? Wacha bwana, let us celebrate noble ideas and people!!!
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sitaki.kujulikana
#40 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2018 6:51:25 PM
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Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
someone in the blue section said that wazua has become a river road economic discussion forum, or something like that.

I mean yaani, one can quantify a good governor by a mango factory and grading earth roads, then providing water pans, seriously water pans and earth roads.

if that is our idea of good leadership and development, we are surely in a dire situation.


Enlighten us who is/what makes a good governor

Tarmac the roads not earth roads, that is something the nyumba kuni welfare does, provide piped water, don't do business, unless he is sure he will govern for his lifetime.

The government both local and national should provide proper infrastructure, I mean the romans were building proper roads thousands of years ago, the romans back then were piping/channeling water to their people back then, and that was a couple of thousand years back, surely we can do better.

lets not rejoice in mediocrity in the name of starting from somewhere.
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