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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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hardwood wrote:newfarer wrote:saw a video of his work...real development. not cinema
You empower people more when you build roads for them and give them piped water (like Mutua has done), than building a mango and milk factory.
ala!!!.......Are you drunk? 
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 468 Location: Nairobi
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From an Eye-witness of Makueni changes post devolution:
1. Water pans every 5 or so Kilometres. It is Feb 12th 2018 and it hasn't rained since Dec 7th 2017 and this water pans still have water. Livestock and domestic water catered for.
2. The Mango factory is having real change in the grassroots. Most farmers are planting grafted mangoes - it is the only cash crop (+mbaazi) that gives even when rains fail.
3. Makueni doesn't have tarmac roads as a result of devolution but the county graders will be there within days of a road being damaged by rain e.t.c. ..roads are motorable thanks to county graders .This is a big contrast from Jubilee areas i visit e.g Ndundori in Nyandarua where you need a 4WD or tractor to get to when it rains.
4. The universal health actually works. Get a card for 500/= and get treated at any country health facility for free. In 2010 took someone to Makindu hospital and i had to buy everything (syringe,gloves,medicine) needed from a chemist in the local trading centre...which basically meant if you are poor you didn't get treated.
5. Sand harvesting in Makueni that was damaging river beds has all but stopped thanks to county Govt support.Most of the sand harvesting has that happened in Makueni now has moved to Kajiado.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:newfarer wrote:saw a video of his work...real development. not cinema
You empower people more when you build roads for them and give them piped water (like Mutua has done), than building a mango and milk factory.
ala!!!.......Are you drunk?
Packaging milk is something any tom, dick and harry can do (just take a trip to your local supermarket and see for yourself). The county government should be involved in more important matters eg roads, power, irrigation, extension services, water and sanitation, etc, etc. And once this infrastructure is in place, farmers will produce more and investors will put up the factories.
Kivutha is using a failed development model. Kivutha should learn from the experiences of the national government which set up factories all over eg KCC, panpaper, sugar factories etc only for them to fail or be privatized after becoming financial sinkholes. Business should be run by the private sector. Let the county and national govts focus on infrastructure to facilitate business.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:newfarer wrote:saw a video of his work...real development. not cinema
You empower people more when you build roads for them and give them piped water (like Mutua has done), than building a mango and milk factory.
ala!!!.......Are you stupid?
Guka, I know mistyping comes with aging but I have corrected that for you.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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Swenani wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:newfarer wrote:saw a video of his work...real development. not cinema
You empower people more when you build roads for them and give them piped water (like Mutua has done), than building a mango and milk factory.
ala!!!.......Are you stupid?
Guka, I know mistyping comes with aging but I have corrected that for you.
i think he was sure about the stupid part being positive. it is the drunk part he now wanted to confirm. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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mkenyan wrote:Swenani wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:newfarer wrote:saw a video of his work...real development. not cinema
You empower people more when you build roads for them and give them piped water (like Mutua has done), than building a mango and milk factory.
ala!!!.......Are you stupid?
Guka, I know mistyping comes with aging but I have corrected that for you.
i think he was sure about the stupid part being positive. it is the drunk part he now wanted to confirm.
drunk stupid/stupid drunk  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:mkenyan wrote:Swenani wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:newfarer wrote:saw a video of his work...real development. not cinema
You empower people more when you build roads for them and give them piped water (like Mutua has done), than building a mango and milk factory.
ala!!!.......Are you stupid?
Guka, I know mistyping comes with aging but I have corrected that for you.
i think he was sure about the stupid part being positive. it is the drunk part he now wanted to confirm.
drunk stupid/stupid drunk
Leteni matusi but the fact remains that govt (county/national) shouldn't be involved in business. They should facilitate business. Economics 101.
Kenya's landscape is littered with failed govt industries and counties shouldn't replicate that model.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Why was Kibaki so successful in running the economy? Is it because he build milk and mango factories? Nope. He was successful because he created the right environment for business to thrive - things like roads, power, dams, access to credit etc. Kivutha should learn from Kibaki.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Sycophancy should be treated like any other mental disorder.
Our brother here operates on a very simple programme.
Kivutha = NASA = Bad
Mutua. = Jubilee = Good
In muranga, Mwangi wa iria signs that Hass avocado deal with kakuzi and got himself re-elected. Simply because it transforms people's lives. Makueni doing the same.
Makueni milk is probably why @ hardwood is offended. The god of kirinyaga decreed in his wisdom that only our beloved monarch family should process milk. Thaai thahaiya Ngai thaai.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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hardwood wrote:Why was Kibaki so successful in running the economy? Is it because he build milk and mango factories? Nope. He was successful because he created the right environment for business to thrive - things like roads, power, dams, access to credit etc. Kivutha should learn from Kibaki.
Ouru or kibaki
Are you saying that Uhunye has failed? Or can you edit the above statement to advise Kivutha to lear from baks and uhunye If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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