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Angelica _ann wrote:Showers & toilets in Kenya police stations, kweli Kenyans are an ignorant lot.
By the way in Nairobi, you are better off in remand prison than police cells. Middle class online warriors....next they'll want coffee machines and wifi.... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Iganamagana wrote:AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:essyk wrote:AlphDoti wrote:essyk wrote:I only have a simple question.
Are there no showers or water taps at the police station? 6 days without showering or eating,well that's what miguna said upon his arrival in canada.
That's stinking bad and he's huge. Not fair. Do they have showers in police cells? A better question would be, did they allow him? I want to know..If there are toilets,I expect there to be showers. And no one can stop him from obeying the call of nature. arghh. I have spent one night in police cells (alcoblow manenoz - was too high and threatened to arrest alcoblow guys). And there are no toilets or showers or mattresses. You sleep on the cold concrete floor, and $hit and pee in a bucket that is placed in the cells. Woe unto you if you are the one ordered to empty that "radioactive" bucket in the morning. @essyk, you are lucky if you've never seen the inside of Kenyan police cell... majority of Kenyans would do at least once in their lifetime. It doesn't nean they were really guilty, but our police are shie! You can request to be given a tour one of these fine days.... You simply experience inhumane conditions in our cells. The comradeship and legal advice unless you are a child defiler is however top notch (just make sure you are out of the place before dark). Been there to trying to bail someone out.But never got past the reception. They only squashed a loaf of bread that I had carried for the person.Milk was spared. We dont give much thought until we find ourselves or our loved ones in. People Dont complain either so what to do.There are no standard basic conditions in our cells. It's a pity especially for women..how do they cope when..again we are used to. I can only pray. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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KulaRaha wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Showers & toilets in Kenya police stations, kweli Kenyans are an ignorant lot.
By the way in Nairobi, you are better off in remand prison than police cells. Middle class online warriors....next they'll want coffee machines and wifi.... Add dessert and games. Anyway it's disturbing esp if one is held in there for days with potentially explosive and radioactive material next to them. It happens BUT we can do better as a country. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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essyk wrote:[quote=KulaRaha][quote=Angelica _ann][color=red]
Add dessert and games.
Anyway it's disturbing esp if one is held in there for days with potentially explosive and radioactive material next to them. It happens BUT we can do better as a country. Some day, i went to a police station to pick a hot blooded cousin of mine who'd fought some policemen. He'd spent a good 3 days there. Wacha tuu. Haki the young man had this indescribable disgusting smell til i decided not to give him a lift. I almost took him to the nearest carwash
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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essyk wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Showers & toilets in Kenya police stations, kweli Kenyans are an ignorant lot.
By the way in Nairobi, you are better off in remand prison than police cells. Middle class online warriors....next they'll want coffee machines and wifi.... Add dessert and games. Anyway it's disturbing esp if one is held in there for days with potentially explosive and radioactive material next to them. It happens BUT we can do better as a country. Wacheni zenu! Why should we NOT have toilets and bathrooms? The people arrested are not even convicted of any crime! Reminds me how some years back in this forum guys rubbished the idea that banks should have seats for customers instead of them standing on long queues. We were given many excuses why it couldn't and wouldn't be done. Look at banking halls now! I've been inside Muthaiga cells and there was a toilet. I've heard the JKIA cells are very 'upclass'.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Lolest! wrote:essyk wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Showers & toilets in Kenya police stations, kweli Kenyans are an ignorant lot.
By the way in Nairobi, you are better off in remand prison than police cells. Middle class online warriors....next they'll want coffee machines and wifi.... Add dessert and games. Anyway it's disturbing esp if one is held in there for days with potentially explosive and radioactive material next to them. It happens BUT we can do better as a country. Wacheni zenu! Why should we NOT have toilets and bathrooms? The people arrested are not even convicted of any crime! Reminds me how some years back in this forum guys rubbished the idea that banks should have seats for customers instead of them standing on long queues. We were given many excuses why it couldn't and wouldn't be done. Look at banking halls now! I've been inside Muthaiga cells and there was a toilet. I've heard the JKIA cells are very 'upclass'. The overflowing toilets in Muthaiga? Ati JKIA cells within the airport itself or the JKIA police station? Maybe the cell within JKIA airport where PNG's and deportees are held and not the cell at JKIA police station If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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This is Africa, we don't even have decent toilets in public places, how do you expect in jail cells? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Angelica _ann wrote:Showers & toilets in Kenya police stations, kweli Kenyans are an ignorant lot.
By the way in Nairobi, you are better off in remand prison than police cells. Prisons are far much better (post Moody Awori era) than police cells. This is one place the government needs to look into. Most Kenyans have visited police cells courtesy of minor traffic infractions or County Askari issues meaning they are basically law abiding citizens but the experience there is traumatizing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Swenani wrote:Lolest! wrote:essyk wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Showers & toilets in Kenya police stations, kweli Kenyans are an ignorant lot.
By the way in Nairobi, you are better off in remand prison than police cells. Middle class online warriors....next they'll want coffee machines and wifi.... Add dessert and games. Anyway it's disturbing esp if one is held in there for days with potentially explosive and radioactive material next to them. It happens BUT we can do better as a country. Wacheni zenu! Why should we NOT have toilets and bathrooms? The people arrested are not even convicted of any crime! Reminds me how some years back in this forum guys rubbished the idea that banks should have seats for customers instead of them standing on long queues. We were given many excuses why it couldn't and wouldn't be done. Look at banking halls now! I've been inside Muthaiga cells and there was a toilet. I've heard the JKIA cells are very 'upclass'. The overflowing toilets in Muthaiga? Ati JKIA cells within the airport itself or the JKIA police station? Maybe the cell within JKIA airport where PNG's and deportees are held and not the cell at JKIA police station Cell bird! I don't know about JKIA police. A taxi guy was telling me how he was arrested there and taken to very clean, neat cells
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Miguna now accuses Canada of ignoring him....Now he knows that Canadians can never entertain his ujinga. Infact Canada should strip him of citizenship and kick him out since he has embarrassed the country (Canada). https://www.the-star.co....rm-from-canada_c1712259
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Miguna told The Globe and Mail that the Canadian officials failed to provide him consular assistance.
"They [Canadian officials] have not spoken with me," Miguna said. "It's a big failure because they needed to scream, they needed to make noise. They needed to do something drastic and they never did."
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Lolest! wrote:Swenani wrote:Lolest! wrote:essyk wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Showers & toilets in Kenya police stations, kweli Kenyans are an ignorant lot.
By the way in Nairobi, you are better off in remand prison than police cells. Middle class online warriors....next they'll want coffee machines and wifi.... Add dessert and games. Anyway it's disturbing esp if one is held in there for days with potentially explosive and radioactive material next to them. It happens BUT we can do better as a country. Wacheni zenu! Why should we NOT have toilets and bathrooms? The people arrested are not even convicted of any crime! Reminds me how some years back in this forum guys rubbished the idea that banks should have seats for customers instead of them standing on long queues. We were given many excuses why it couldn't and wouldn't be done. Look at banking halls now! I've been inside Muthaiga cells and there was a toilet. I've heard the JKIA cells are very 'upclass'. The overflowing toilets in Muthaiga? Ati JKIA cells within the airport itself or the JKIA police station? Maybe the cell within JKIA airport where PNG's and deportees are held and not the cell at JKIA police station Cell bird! I don't know about JKIA police. A taxi guy was telling me how he was arrested there and taken to very clean, neat cells We are not talking about what should happen, but what is currently there, the prevailing situation under Jubilee Government. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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Ngalaka wrote:For clarification purposes Miguna will eventually get his Kenyan Citizenship reinstated.
He may very well be required to formerly apply for the same, following which the administration will be required to so recognise him and issue him with the requisite docs.
In the event the administration refuses to do so, if Miguna petitions the court he will have his way in his regard – court orders for restoration of his citizenship.
Viewed from this angle, the administration started a war that they can only win some battles but ultimately will eventually lose the war.
But there is also another view;
- Prior to his arrest Miguna acted and talked recklessly including declaring himself a general in NRM a body/movement that has presented itself as a pseudo military outfit.
It did not help matters for him that even after the said NRM had been proscribed after being declared a terrorist body, he defiantly and blatantly continued to associate himself with it and generally act as though he were a law unto himself.
In my view such conduct should not be let to take root especially that there is a large proportion of the Country that would think it is in order. A government has a duty to make sure that South Sudan or Congo situations dont happen here. By letting fellows act as Miguna was, as well as the oathing group is to create fertile ground for rebel idea to nurture.
Truth be told without deterrent some of these characters can orchestrate a civil unrest. In that case, it may be a lesser evil to check these characters in time rather than wait until many Lives end up being lost and some people in refugee or IDP camps!
I say these things as a patriot, and not one who is overly and unduly concerned with political correctness of issues- as long as it represents the greater good.
All said and done there is no alternative to following the law and above all obeying court orders.
Nasema ndio
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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How I was whisked to airport before eating my fish - Migunahttps://www.the-star.co....-my-fish-miguna_c1712686
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929
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[quote=hardwood] How I was whisked to airport before eating my fish - Migunahttps://www.the-star.co....my-fish-miguna_c1712686[/quote] Nice one, though kumbe Kenya still has such stupid policemen in our midst. Poor souls!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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You wouldn't say that When they deport you from the US. At least the kenya police are generous enough to buy you some fish before putting you on the plane home..... to Canada.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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hardwood wrote:You wouldn't say that When they deport you from the US. At least the kenya police are generous enough to buy you some fish before putting you on the plane home..... to Canada. Miguna was offered Fish after cutting a deal with the gvt. He was told either more days in detention or deportation. He chose deportation. To prove this, the whole story Miguna is giving doesnt add up at all. I mean, where did he get the time to pick both pasports when they came for him??
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