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Governor Miguna Miguna
murchr
#311 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 7:33:06 PM
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alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
The executive arm of gov't cannot declare anything illegal. That's the work of the Judiciary.

That is why the police writes a charge sheet then you are taken to court. Then the court decides that a crime was commited. Not hardwood and murchr pronouncements on social media. That is why Waiguru became a governor even after all the noise on wazua. She was never charged for any crime. Kapish?

Please advise on which court case Miguna's passport was ever declared illegal. Please take your time.

As you think about that, please details to us where a Minister of the Gov't of Mwai Kibaki was arrested or charged for giving out false papers.

Please note wazua gossip is not counted in serious matters of illegality or otherwise.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. I'll tell you once again. Someone is going to go through the very same gymnastics and it won't be whom you think.

The law must be followed by all and sundry. Otherwise you leave a legacy of a banana republic. Ask former President Moi.



The laws of Kenya declare what is legal and not. Its the work of the Judiciary to interpret this if you do not understand, and its the work of the executive to enforce the law.


Don't tie yourself up in knots.

The laws of Kenya are created by the legislative arm. You do know the meaning of legislature.

Do not even for a minute bring up the issue of certificates prochuad from a university. You get that certificate based on the laws and bylaws of that university. And those are interpreted by the senate council of the university. Not by the lecturer who gave me a D-

In Kenya you are judged based on the laws that are based on the constitution. Supreme amongst them is that no one is above the law. Especially the law enforcers. Note: not interpreters on Twirra or wazua. But the goddamned courts.

I'll leave this stories as I have a very long 2 weeks ahead in my life. Unless hardwood brings a contigent of armed cops to my house to state that I'm not even human.

People go to court to get their rights. They expect everyone to play under the same rules. When they find out that the same rules don't apply to anyone, start typing "banana republic".

What I'll say is this as my final output on this topic.

Someone shall also suffer the same fates as what is going on. We have seen it before and we know the ending to the story. It may not be to your liking.



So after typing all that what did you say? Govt is enforcing the law. Miguna should contest that law in court.

@Kusadikika, I just hope there will be someone to give him socks, shoes and a coat once he gets to Toronto. Its biting cold over there.
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Ngalaka
#312 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 7:43:03 PM
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AlphDoti
#313 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 8:18:36 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Before the new stupid katiba, there was no provision of dual citizenship. Therefore when miguna took up Canadian citizenship he automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship. After the new katiba, him being a Canadian citizen, he got a chance to regain his Kenyan citizenship but this was to be done through application. He never applied and therefore he remains a Canadian citizen. Now, even if he applies for Kenyan citizenship he won't get it because he is a Canadian mercenary who has committed a capital offence against Kenya. Also the govt should confiscate all his property in Kenya, including his house at 486 Runda meadows since he is an enemy of the state.

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Rahatupu
#314 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 8:27:00 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Before the new stupid katiba, there was no provision of dual citizenship. Therefore when miguna took up Canadian citizenship he automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship. After the new katiba, him being a Canadian citizen, he got a chance to regain his Kenyan citizenship but this was to be done through application. He never applied and therefore he remains a Canadian citizen. Now, even if he applies for Kenyan citizenship he won't get it because he is a Canadian mercenary who has committed a capital offence against Kenya. Also the govt should confiscate all his property in Kenya, including his house at 486 Runda meadows since he is an enemy of the state.

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Thanks @Alph for nailing it. Just like all Kenyans of majority age are have a right to vote,they are obligated to register as voters.
masukuma
#315 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 8:32:32 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Before the new stupid katiba, there was no provision of dual citizenship. Therefore when miguna took up Canadian citizenship he automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship. After the new katiba, him being a Canadian citizen, he got a chance to regain his Kenyan citizenship but this was to be done through application. He never applied and therefore he remains a Canadian citizen. Now, even if he applies for Kenyan citizenship he won't get it because he is a Canadian mercenary who has committed a capital offence against Kenya. Also the govt should confiscate all his property in Kenya, including his house at 486 Runda meadows since he is an enemy of the state.

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that's the law... if someone has no interest in your "precious" citizenship and gave it up a long time ago - you cannot 'FORCE' him/her to be your citizen just because you passed a law. What if his/he current citizenship does not allow him/her to be a dual citizen? what if he/she can lose his/her newly found citizenship based on being a citizen of another country? you must accord people the courtesy to apply for themselves if they are interested.
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2012
#316 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:00:54 PM
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Swali nyeti ni hili:

How was a Canadian citizen cleared by IEBC to run for Governor of Kenya's capital city??? d'oh!

Tuwache kudanganyana. I'm starting to believe the story that the people's president has appointed Miguna the Canadian ambassador with immediate effect.

BBI will solve it
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masukuma
#317 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:19:55 PM
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alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it could be argued that they are following section 1 and 2 of the constitution!! you know that section that you can misquote all you want

Quote:
(1) All sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya and shall be exercised only in accordance with this Constitution.

(2) The people may exercise their sovereign power either directly or through their democratically elected representatives.


so Matiangi and Boinett herein known as 'People' or 'The People' have exercised ' sovereign power' and kicked Miguna squared out of the country smile


The constitution on the issue of citizenship only has 1 line. It is very clear.

You cannot lose your citizenship for whatever reason. It is one of the shortest lines in the constitution and it has no ifs and buts about it.

People quoting laws that were made by the mkoloni gov't would do well to read that part.

As to the issue of Miguna renouncing his citizenship this is one area where only Jubilee people who have never found a way out of Nairobi can believe.

You are not expected to renounce your citizenship in Canada. In fact it has one of the most liberal laws worldwide dual citizenship.

Second and most important. Even the US does not and will never tell any country that anyone has renounced their citizenship.

When someone can wake in the morning and say, you are not a citizen, we are heading for very dangerous times ahead.


ala... don't you know? you can disregard everything after Section 1 of the constitution if you decide to exercise ' sovereign power' DIRECTLY!! that "exercise sovereign power DIRECTLY" means you can make shit up as you go!
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masukuma
#318 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:27:48 PM
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tunaenda canaan..sorry i mean tunaenda canada! sorry for the typo
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Realtreaty
#319 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:39:22 PM
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2012 wrote:
Swali nyeti ni hili:

How was a Canadian citizen cleared by IEBC to run for Governor of Kenya's capital city??? d'oh!

Tuwache kudanganyana. I'm starting to believe the story that the people's president has appointed Miguna the Canadian ambassador with immediate effect.


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Realtreaty
#320 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:40:59 PM
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"NIGHT FLYER" MIGONE MIGONE!!!!!!
He can now write another book!!!!
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