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Governor Miguna Miguna
Lolest!
#281 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:46:57 AM
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So what is this regaining and what does it entail?

Article 14(5) says that any Kenyan citizen by birth is entitled upon application to regain citizenship by birth. The Kenya Citizenship and Immigration Act 2011 section 10 and the regulations of 2012 sections 5-8 prescribes the manner in which such an application shall be made. The key word here is entitled. This therefore means that the Cabinet Secretary has no option but to grant the request and issue a regaining certificate to such an applicant.

That being the case, should one assume that after COK 2010 they automatically regained their citizenship without even applying in the prescribed manner? The answer to this was given by Lenaola J ( As he then was) in the case of Bashir Mohamed Jama Abdi vs the minister for Immigration and Registration of Persons and others ( Petition no.586 of 2012).

Lenaola J in paragraph 42 says “…It is obvious to me that whereas Abdi is entitled to apply to regain his citizenship, this Court cannot be the organ to grant it to him because it is not a matter of right. He should make the necessary application and if it is formally denied, then he can have recourse to the Court after that fact…”

In Paragraph 47 Lenaola J Says, “…there is no obligation on the part of the Kenyan Government “to accept” an application to regain citizenship because one must meet the lawful conditions set for so doing…”

It therefore my humble view that while those that had lost their citizenship under the repealed constitution section 97 are now entitled to regain the same under COK 2010, they are obligated to apply for the same in the prescribed manner. The government is duty bound to facilitate this process without unnecessary delays or bureaucracies.

https://immigrationkenya...itizen-by-birth-lose-it/
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hardwood
#282 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:55:12 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
So what is this regaining and what does it entail?

Article 14(5) says that any Kenyan citizen by birth is entitled upon application to regain citizenship by birth. The Kenya Citizenship and Immigration Act 2011 section 10 and the regulations of 2012 sections 5-8 prescribes the manner in which such an application shall be made. The key word here is entitled. This therefore means that the Cabinet Secretary has no option but to grant the request and issue a regaining certificate to such an applicant.

That being the case, should one assume that after COK 2010 they automatically regained their citizenship without even applying in the prescribed manner? The answer to this was given by Lenaola J ( As he then was) in the case of Bashir Mohamed Jama Abdi vs the minister for Immigration and Registration of Persons and others ( Petition no.586 of 2012).

Lenaola J in paragraph 42 says “…It is obvious to me that whereas Abdi is entitled to apply to regain his citizenship, this Court cannot be the organ to grant it to him because it is not a matter of right. He should make the necessary application and if it is formally denied, then he can have recourse to the Court after that fact…”

In Paragraph 47 Lenaola J Says, “…there is no obligation on the part of the Kenyan Government “to accept” an application to regain citizenship because one must meet the lawful conditions set for so doing…”

It therefore my humble view that while those that had lost their citizenship under the repealed constitution section 97 are now entitled to regain the same under COK 2010, they are obligated to apply for the same in the prescribed manner. The government is duty bound to facilitate this process without unnecessary delays or bureaucracies.

https://immigrationkenya...tizen-by-birth-lose-it/


You can be 100% sure that one who commits TREASON will not regain citizenship after applying. Miguna is finished and kenya will never issue him a visa to visit.
masukuma
#283 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 12:11:38 PM
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Fullykenyan
#284 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 1:21:58 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Quote:
So what is this regaining and what does it entail?

Article 14(5) says that any Kenyan citizen by birth is entitled upon application to regain citizenship by birth. The Kenya Citizenship and Immigration Act 2011 section 10 and the regulations of 2012 sections 5-8 prescribes the manner in which such an application shall be made. The key word here is entitled. This therefore means that the Cabinet Secretary has no option but to grant the request and issue a regaining certificate to such an applicant.

That being the case, should one assume that after COK 2010 they automatically regained their citizenship without even applying in the prescribed manner? The answer to this was given by Lenaola J ( As he then was) in the case of Bashir Mohamed Jama Abdi vs the minister for Immigration and Registration of Persons and others ( Petition no.586 of 2012).

Lenaola J in paragraph 42 says “…It is obvious to me that whereas Abdi is entitled to apply to regain his citizenship, this Court cannot be the organ to grant it to him because it is not a matter of right. He should make the necessary application and if it is formally denied, then he can have recourse to the Court after that fact…”

In Paragraph 47 Lenaola J Says, “…there is no obligation on the part of the Kenyan Government “to accept” an application to regain citizenship because one must meet the lawful conditions set for so doing…”

It therefore my humble view that while those that had lost their citizenship under the repealed constitution section 97 are now entitled to regain the same under COK 2010, they are obligated to apply for the same in the prescribed manner. The government is duty bound to facilitate this process without unnecessary delays or bureaucracies.

https://immigrationkenya...tizen-by-birth-lose-it/


You can be 100% sure that one who commits TREASON will not regain citizenship after applying. Miguna is finished and kenya will never issue him a visa to visit.

Boss, Miguna has a right for kenyan citizenship. This right neither Uhuru nor NIS can take it away from him
hardwood
#285 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 1:32:30 PM
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Miguna is NOT a Kenyan citizen. There you have it...


masukuma
#286 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:01:54 PM
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it could be argued that they are following section 1 and 2 of the constitution!! you know that section that you can misquote all you want

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(1) All sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya and shall be exercised only in accordance with this Constitution.

(2) The people may exercise their sovereign power either directly or through their democratically elected representatives.


so Matiangi and Boinett herein known as 'People' or 'The People' have exercised ' sovereign power' and kicked Miguna squared out of the country smile
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hardwood
#287 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:14:00 PM
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alma1
#288 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 3:02:40 PM
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masukuma wrote:
it could be argued that they are following section 1 and 2 of the constitution!! you know that section that you can misquote all you want

Quote:
(1) All sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya and shall be exercised only in accordance with this Constitution.

(2) The people may exercise their sovereign power either directly or through their democratically elected representatives.


so Matiangi and Boinett herein known as 'People' or 'The People' have exercised ' sovereign power' and kicked Miguna squared out of the country smile


The constitution on the issue of citizenship only has 1 line. It is very clear.

You cannot lose your citizenship for whatever reason. It is one of the shortest lines in the constitution and it has no ifs and buts about it.

People quoting laws that were made by the mkoloni gov't would do well to read that part.

As to the issue of Miguna renouncing his citizenship this is one area where only Jubilee people who have never found a way out of Nairobi can believe.

You are not expected to renounce your citizenship in Canada. In fact it has one of the most liberal laws worldwide dual citizenship.

Second and most important. Even the US does not and will never tell any country that anyone has renounced their citizenship.

When someone can wake in the morning and say, you are not a citizen, we are heading for very dangerous times ahead.
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hardwood
#289 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 3:19:07 PM
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alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it could be argued that they are following section 1 and 2 of the constitution!! you know that section that you can misquote all you want

Quote:
(1) All sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya and shall be exercised only in accordance with this Constitution.

(2) The people may exercise their sovereign power either directly or through their democratically elected representatives.


so Matiangi and Boinett herein known as 'People' or 'The People' have exercised ' sovereign power' and kicked Miguna squared out of the country smile


The constitution on the issue of citizenship only has 1 line. It is very clear.

You cannot lose your citizenship for whatever reason. It is one of the shortest lines in the constitution and it has no ifs and buts about it.

People quoting laws that were made by the mkoloni gov't would do well to read that part.

As to the issue of Miguna renouncing his citizenship this is one area where only Jubilee people who have never found a way out of Nairobi can believe.

You are not expected to renounce your citizenship in Canada. In fact it has one of the most liberal laws worldwide dual citizenship.

Second and most important. Even the US does not and will never tell any country that anyone has renounced their citizenship.

When someone can wake in the morning and say, you are not a citizen, we are heading for very dangerous times ahead.


We'll also check if you renounced your citizen by birth in congo so that we deport you back to congo forest.
alma1
#290 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 3:25:30 PM
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hardwood wrote:
alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it could be argued that they are following section 1 and 2 of the constitution!! you know that section that you can misquote all you want

Quote:
(1) All sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya and shall be exercised only in accordance with this Constitution.

(2) The people may exercise their sovereign power either directly or through their democratically elected representatives.


so Matiangi and Boinett herein known as 'People' or 'The People' have exercised ' sovereign power' and kicked Miguna squared out of the country smile


The constitution on the issue of citizenship only has 1 line. It is very clear.

You cannot lose your citizenship for whatever reason. It is one of the shortest lines in the constitution and it has no ifs and buts about it.

People quoting laws that were made by the mkoloni gov't would do well to read that part.

As to the issue of Miguna renouncing his citizenship this is one area where only Jubilee people who have never found a way out of Nairobi can believe.

You are not expected to renounce your citizenship in Canada. In fact it has one of the most liberal laws worldwide dual citizenship.

Second and most important. Even the US does not and will never tell any country that anyone has renounced their citizenship.

When someone can wake in the morning and say, you are not a citizen, we are heading for very dangerous times ahead.


We'll also check if you renounced your citizen by birth in congo so that we deport you back to congo forest.


Jinga sana.

My citizenship in this country is not because of a piece of paper. Or because Jubilee 39 bloggers say so.

You can renounce and pray to Mother Teresa for all I care. I'll still be a citizen.

Ama now you want to revoke marriage certificates?
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

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