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Iganamagana		#1131 Posted : Tuesday, February 06, 2018 4:27:13 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437		Fyatu wrote: Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: I am inside(now..yaani sahii) the SGR train towards Mombasa. I must confess that today was a nightmare for most passengers especially the ones that booked online due to the following reasons. 1. There were double bookings for sits(This is totally unacceptable). 2. There was a peculiar ticket printing method whereby you have to queue on for your ticket to be printed by a teller.(lA teller like those in banking halls).IMHO, Kenya railways should let kenyans do this for themselves rather than those moody/hormone overdosed women tellers. 5 minutes to check-in time and Kenyans were still queuing waiting to be served. 3. The washrooms were a disaster. Kinyesi was all over the walls in the toilets. No tissue paper etc. Someone tell Ole itumbi or Alai to tweet/SMS this to Uhuru himself. Choo ni kama public toilets za Nairobi county council...Shame Shame..Someone tell the President that his railway is being mismanaged. 4. The attitude of the train hostess and those people serving food on the train leaves alot to be desired. Wafanyi kazi huko wako na attitude mbaya which stinks of nepotism...They are very rude and arrogant these staff members. Imagine a young lady with two tois told to mop the floor coz one of her kids have poured yoghurt on the floor 5. An elderly mzee i am sitting with says that he thinks that these trains are overstaffed and he believes this is the reason for the inefficiencies. It seems that SGR has become an employment agency for our unqualified/undeserving relathieves who have refused to clean the toilets at the terminus and clean the yogho that kids spill on the train floor. 5.Raising the fare will surely reduce the number of travelers. As @Alma has noted, why should i pay 100 bob to syoks, 1200 to Mombasa, 200 to Mombasa CBD and buy an over priced breakfast (chai na mandazi moja stale) for 200 bob when i can eat my chapati madondo at 100 bob and pay 1200 in Dreamline bus or Simba coach that drops me in Mwembe. If @Ole itumbi reads this then he should let the powers that be that this is happening to save the situation ASAP otherwise it will be billions down the drain I used the SGR twice last November and did not witness this. The staff were courteous and the only hiccup I faced was that lunch was never served (I was accompanied by children). Of course the snacks were expensive but this was expected and second time travellers were armed with their own. When you buy viazi on the highway, they tend to be more expensive than your local mama mboga. Things must have moved south very fast! Simba couch for me is a no no when there is a flight or SGR option. The accident scenes I have witnessed on that highway coupled with the antics of truck drivers can lead to a heart attack. I have used it today and have just arrived in my rented apartment. I use it at least twice a month to and fro Mombasa. I am talking about what i have observed this month(twice). Something needs to be done soon. The situation needs to be arrested before the situation gets worse.
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hardwood		#1132 Posted : Tuesday, February 06, 2018 5:52:57 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: I am inside(now..yaani sahii) the SGR train towards Mombasa. I must confess that today was a nightmare for most passengers especially the ones that booked online due to the following reasons. 1. There were double bookings for sits(This is totally unacceptable). 2. There was a peculiar ticket printing method whereby you have to queue on for your ticket to be printed by a teller.(lA teller like those in banking halls).IMHO, Kenya railways should let kenyans do this for themselves rather than those moody/hormone overdosed women tellers. 5 minutes to check-in time and Kenyans were still queuing waiting to be served. 3. The washrooms were a disaster. Kinyesi was all over the walls in the toilets. No tissue paper etc. Someone tell Ole itumbi or Alai to tweet/SMS this to Uhuru himself. Choo ni kama public toilets za Nairobi county council...Shame Shame..Someone tell the President that his railway is being mismanaged. 4. The attitude of the train hostess and those people serving food on the train leaves alot to be desired. Wafanyi kazi huko wako na attitude mbaya which stinks of nepotism...They are very rude and arrogant these staff members. Imagine a young lady with two tois told to mop the floor coz one of her kids have poured yoghurt on the floor 5. An elderly mzee i am sitting with says that he thinks that these trains are overstaffed and he believes this is the reason for the inefficiencies. It seems that SGR has become an employment agency for our unqualified/undeserving relathieves who have refused to clean the toilets at the terminus and clean the yogho that kids spill on the train floor. 5.Raising the fare will surely reduce the number of travelers. As @Alma has noted, why should i pay 100 bob to syoks, 1200 to Mombasa, 200 to Mombasa CBD and buy an over priced breakfast (chai na mandazi moja stale) for 200 bob when i can eat my chapati madondo at 100 bob and pay 1200 in Dreamline bus or Simba coach that drops me in Mwembe. If @Ole itumbi reads this then he should let the powers that be that this is happening to save the situation ASAP otherwise it will be billions down the drain I used the SGR twice last November and did not witness this. The staff were courteous and the only hiccup I faced was that lunch was never served (I was accompanied by children). Of course the snacks were expensive but this was expected and second time travellers were armed with their own. When you buy viazi on the highway, they tend to be more expensive than your local mama mboga. Things must have moved south very fast! Simba couch for me is a no no when there is a flight or SGR option. The accident scenes I have witnessed on that highway coupled with the antics of truck drivers can lead to a heart attack. I have used it today and have just arrived in my rented apartment. I use it at least twice a month to and fro Mombasa. I am talking about what i have observed this month(twice). Something needs to be done soon. The situation needs to be arrested before the situation gets worse. If this is happening under chinese management, what will happen when it is handed in a few yrs time to kiprotich to run?
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Impunity		#1133 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 1:00:23 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada		hardwood wrote: Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: I am inside(now..yaani sahii) the SGR train towards Mombasa. I must confess that today was a nightmare for most passengers especially the ones that booked online due to the following reasons. 1. There were double bookings for sits(This is totally unacceptable). 2. There was a peculiar ticket printing method whereby you have to queue on for your ticket to be printed by a teller.(lA teller like those in banking halls).IMHO, Kenya railways should let kenyans do this for themselves rather than those moody/hormone overdosed women tellers. 5 minutes to check-in time and Kenyans were still queuing waiting to be served. 3. The washrooms were a disaster. Kinyesi was all over the walls in the toilets. No tissue paper etc. Someone tell Ole itumbi or Alai to tweet/SMS this to Uhuru himself. Choo ni kama public toilets za Nairobi county council...Shame Shame..Someone tell the President that his railway is being mismanaged. 4. The attitude of the train hostess and those people serving food on the train leaves alot to be desired. Wafanyi kazi huko wako na attitude mbaya which stinks of nepotism...They are very rude and arrogant these staff members. Imagine a young lady with two tois told to mop the floor coz one of her kids have poured yoghurt on the floor 5. An elderly mzee i am sitting with says that he thinks that these trains are overstaffed and he believes this is the reason for the inefficiencies. It seems that SGR has become an employment agency for our unqualified/undeserving relathieves who have refused to clean the toilets at the terminus and clean the yogho that kids spill on the train floor. 5.Raising the fare will surely reduce the number of travelers. As @Alma has noted, why should i pay 100 bob to syoks, 1200 to Mombasa, 200 to Mombasa CBD and buy an over priced breakfast (chai na mandazi moja stale) for 200 bob when i can eat my chapati madondo at 100 bob and pay 1200 in Dreamline bus or Simba coach that drops me in Mwembe. If @Ole itumbi reads this then he should let the powers that be that this is happening to save the situation ASAP otherwise it will be billions down the drain I used the SGR twice last November and did not witness this. The staff were courteous and the only hiccup I faced was that lunch was never served (I was accompanied by children). Of course the snacks were expensive but this was expected and second time travellers were armed with their own. When you buy viazi on the highway, they tend to be more expensive than your local mama mboga. Things must have moved south very fast! Simba couch for me is a no no when there is a flight or SGR option. The accident scenes I have witnessed on that highway coupled with the antics of truck drivers can lead to a heart attack. I have used it today and have just arrived in my rented apartment. I use it at least twice a month to and fro Mombasa. I am talking about what i have observed this month(twice). Something needs to be done soon. The situation needs to be arrested before the situation gets worse. If this is happening under chinese management, what will happen when it is handed in a few yrs time to kiprotich to run? That kinyesi bit in the terminal buildings is sickening if true. How are the toilets onboard the train?Are they clean themselves ? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Fyatu		#1134 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:22:18 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru		Impunity wrote: hardwood wrote: Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: I am inside(now..yaani sahii) the SGR train towards Mombasa. I must confess that today was a nightmare for most passengers especially the ones that booked online due to the following reasons. 1. There were double bookings for sits(This is totally unacceptable). 2. There was a peculiar ticket printing method whereby you have to queue on for your ticket to be printed by a teller.(lA teller like those in banking halls).IMHO, Kenya railways should let kenyans do this for themselves rather than those moody/hormone overdosed women tellers. 5 minutes to check-in time and Kenyans were still queuing waiting to be served. 3. The washrooms were a disaster. Kinyesi was all over the walls in the toilets. No tissue paper etc. Someone tell Ole itumbi or Alai to tweet/SMS this to Uhuru himself. Choo ni kama public toilets za Nairobi county council...Shame Shame..Someone tell the President that his railway is being mismanaged. 4. The attitude of the train hostess and those people serving food on the train leaves alot to be desired. Wafanyi kazi huko wako na attitude mbaya which stinks of nepotism...They are very rude and arrogant these staff members. Imagine a young lady with two tois told to mop the floor coz one of her kids have poured yoghurt on the floor 5. An elderly mzee i am sitting with says that he thinks that these trains are overstaffed and he believes this is the reason for the inefficiencies. It seems that SGR has become an employment agency for our unqualified/undeserving relathieves who have refused to clean the toilets at the terminus and clean the yogho that kids spill on the train floor. 5.Raising the fare will surely reduce the number of travelers. As @Alma has noted, why should i pay 100 bob to syoks, 1200 to Mombasa, 200 to Mombasa CBD and buy an over priced breakfast (chai na mandazi moja stale) for 200 bob when i can eat my chapati madondo at 100 bob and pay 1200 in Dreamline bus or Simba coach that drops me in Mwembe. If @Ole itumbi reads this then he should let the powers that be that this is happening to save the situation ASAP otherwise it will be billions down the drain I used the SGR twice last November and did not witness this. The staff were courteous and the only hiccup I faced was that lunch was never served (I was accompanied by children). Of course the snacks were expensive but this was expected and second time travellers were armed with their own. When you buy viazi on the highway, they tend to be more expensive than your local mama mboga. Things must have moved south very fast! Simba couch for me is a no no when there is a flight or SGR option. The accident scenes I have witnessed on that highway coupled with the antics of truck drivers can lead to a heart attack. I have used it today and have just arrived in my rented apartment. I use it at least twice a month to and fro Mombasa. I am talking about what i have observed this month(twice). Something needs to be done soon. The situation needs to be arrested before the situation gets worse. If this is happening under chinese management, what will happen when it is handed in a few yrs time to kiprotich to run? That kinyesi bit in the terminal buildings is sickening if true. How are the toilets onboard the train?Are they clean themselves ? The kinyesi bit is true story. Some shady Kenyans signed off "I was here" on the walls. On board the train, the toilets are fairly clean but once in a while the uvundo sneaks-in into the coaches.However,during my trip yesterday, a middle-class Kenyan lady warned her 8-10 yrs old daughter not to seat on the toilet seat when the daughter announced she was heading there, suggesting the daughter squatted on the sit and hence high chances of missing and spoiling things for other users. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Fyatu		#1135 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:27:06 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru		hardwood wrote: Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: Iganamagana wrote: Fyatu wrote: I am inside(now..yaani sahii) the SGR train towards Mombasa. I must confess that today was a nightmare for most passengers especially the ones that booked online due to the following reasons. 1. There were double bookings for sits(This is totally unacceptable). 2. There was a peculiar ticket printing method whereby you have to queue on for your ticket to be printed by a teller.(lA teller like those in banking halls).IMHO, Kenya railways should let kenyans do this for themselves rather than those moody/hormone overdosed women tellers. 5 minutes to check-in time and Kenyans were still queuing waiting to be served. 3. The washrooms were a disaster. Kinyesi was all over the walls in the toilets. No tissue paper etc. Someone tell Ole itumbi or Alai to tweet/SMS this to Uhuru himself. Choo ni kama public toilets za Nairobi county council...Shame Shame..Someone tell the President that his railway is being mismanaged. 4. The attitude of the train hostess and those people serving food on the train leaves alot to be desired. Wafanyi kazi huko wako na attitude mbaya which stinks of nepotism...They are very rude and arrogant these staff members. Imagine a young lady with two tois told to mop the floor coz one of her kids have poured yoghurt on the floor 5. An elderly mzee i am sitting with says that he thinks that these trains are overstaffed and he believes this is the reason for the inefficiencies. It seems that SGR has become an employment agency for our unqualified/undeserving relathieves who have refused to clean the toilets at the terminus and clean the yogho that kids spill on the train floor. 5.Raising the fare will surely reduce the number of travelers. As @Alma has noted, why should i pay 100 bob to syoks, 1200 to Mombasa, 200 to Mombasa CBD and buy an over priced breakfast (chai na mandazi moja stale) for 200 bob when i can eat my chapati madondo at 100 bob and pay 1200 in Dreamline bus or Simba coach that drops me in Mwembe. If @Ole itumbi reads this then he should let the powers that be that this is happening to save the situation ASAP otherwise it will be billions down the drain I used the SGR twice last November and did not witness this. The staff were courteous and the only hiccup I faced was that lunch was never served (I was accompanied by children). Of course the snacks were expensive but this was expected and second time travellers were armed with their own. When you buy viazi on the highway, they tend to be more expensive than your local mama mboga. Things must have moved south very fast! Simba couch for me is a no no when there is a flight or SGR option. The accident scenes I have witnessed on that highway coupled with the antics of truck drivers can lead to a heart attack. I have used it today and have just arrived in my rented apartment. I use it at least twice a month to and fro Mombasa. I am talking about what i have observed this month(twice). Something needs to be done soon. The situation needs to be arrested before the situation gets worse. If this is happening under chinese management, what will happen when it is handed in a few yrs time to kiprotich to run? I shudder at the thought of the day when Kiprotich or Kamau or Musyoka will take over matters management. First and foremost he will employ his incompetent village mates and relathieves as engineers and head of departments and then there will be total mismanagement and looting. Look at the RVR meter gauge route and see the plunder Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Musimo		#1136 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:10:24 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/3/2015 Posts: 118 Location: Nairobi		FRM2011 wrote: Impunity wrote: And now freight charge is halved to only kes.35K for 20 TEU. Tough times! The latest strategy is to force importers to use SGR. The clearing agents are up in arms. Will most likely end in court. Someone is really trying to paint this white elephant black. One month in operation and the reality is sinking in. David Ndii saw it four years ago. David ndii also told us that upgrading the old line would cure everything (World bank went to the extent of granting one of the companies some loans which are now due and equipment is being sold). Now, remind me how many companies have taken up RVR/old KR from Mombasa to Kampala, and why they never met their end of the deal....
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Musimo		#1137 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:33:59 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/3/2015 Posts: 118 Location: Nairobi		[quote=Fyatu]I am inside(now..yaani sahii) the SGR train towards Mombasa. I must confess that today was a nightmare for most passengers especially the ones that booked online due to the following reasons. 1. There were double bookings for sits(This is totally unacceptable). A problem with the booking allocations computer/software. This problem was common on Rwandair, perks were you would be upgraded a class if you lack a seat in your class. otherwise re-assigning seats while in the plane was the norm with them, don't know whether they sorted that out. 2. There was a peculiar ticket printing method whereby you have to queue on for your ticket to be printed by a teller.(lA teller like those in banking halls).IMHO, Kenya railways should let kenyans do this for themselves rather than those moody/hormone overdosed women tellers. 5 minutes to check-in time and Kenyans were still queuing waiting to be served. How many guys get to the airport 5 minutes before travel and expect to get on the plane? On this, I think they should introduce a requirement that you should be at the train station 1 hr before departure, if only to cure this disease of arriving late by kenyans. Airports also print boarding passes for guys, all you need is to be at the airport in good time. 3. The washrooms were a disaster. Kinyesi was all over the walls in the toilets. No tissue paper etc. Someone tell Ole itumbi or Alai to tweet/SMS this to Uhuru himself. Choo ni kama public toilets za Nairobi county council...Shame Shame..Someone tell the President that his railway is being mismanaged. As @hardwood has suggested. Better yet,, if arrivals are set at a certain given time, two or three lounges/eateries would do quite well, especially for customers who don't want to buy in-train or are put off by prices on the train. Maybe to the extent of doing what club scratch along moi avenue does: buy drinks downstairs and go upstairs with them and enjoy the club accordingly. 4. The attitude of the train hostess and those people serving food on the train leaves alot to be desired. Wafanyi kazi huko wako na attitude mbaya which stinks of nepotism...They are very rude and arrogant these staff members. Imagine a young lady with two tois told to mop the floor coz one of her kids have poured yoghurt on the floor Last I was on the train, there were some couples and individuals who thought of themselves as royalty, getting to a point of verbal abuse of the hostesses. Me and my boys were left to console her, get her smiling, had to buy her some alcohol to reduce her anger and embarrassment. Obviously with time, skin would grow thick and arrogance would kick in. Let's reduce this behaviours, remember we get what we give. Give sht, get sht. Give a smile, get a smile and a phone number for later on 5.Raising the fare will surely reduce the number of travelers. As @Alma has noted, why should i pay 100 bob to syoks, 1200 to Mombasa, 200 to Mombasa CBD and buy an over priced breakfast (chai na mandazi moja stale) for 200 bob when i can eat my chapati madondo at 100 bob and pay 1200 in Dreamline bus or Simba coach that drops me in Mwembe. As most businesses do, demand rise = price rise. biz guys, what was the name of that curve/graph? The emphasis currently should be on improving connections as they had indicated, i.e Miritini-Town, Railways-Syokimau.
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hardwood		#1138 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:49:40 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		Musimo wrote: FRM2011 wrote: Impunity wrote: And now freight charge is halved to only kes.35K for 20 TEU. Tough times! The latest strategy is to force importers to use SGR. The clearing agents are up in arms. Will most likely end in court. Someone is really trying to paint this white elephant black. One month in operation and the reality is sinking in. David Ndii saw it four years ago. David ndii also told us that upgrading the old line would cure everything (World bank went to the extent of granting one of the companies some loans which are now due and equipment is being sold). Now, remind me how many companies have taken up RVR/old KR from Mombasa to Kampala, and why they never met their end of the deal.... How was govt going to upgrade this one. When your shirt is torn due to age, the best thing is to buy a new one, not more virakas.
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Impunity		#1139 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 3:02:02 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada		hardwood wrote: Musimo wrote: FRM2011 wrote: Impunity wrote: And now freight charge is halved to only kes.35K for 20 TEU. Tough times! The latest strategy is to force importers to use SGR. The clearing agents are up in arms. Will most likely end in court. Someone is really trying to paint this white elephant black. One month in operation and the reality is sinking in. David Ndii saw it four years ago. David ndii also told us that upgrading the old line would cure everything (World bank went to the extent of granting one of the companies some loans which are now due and equipment is being sold). Now, remind me how many companies have taken up RVR/old KR from Mombasa to Kampala, and why they never met their end of the deal.... How was govt going to upgrade this one. When your shirt is torn due to age, the best thing is to buy a new one, not more virakas. It has been done elsewhere and succeeded very well Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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alma1		#1140 Posted : Wednesday, February 07, 2018 4:08:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo		Yesterday they were electrifying. Today they aren't https://www.businessdail...279072-88lwe8/index.html Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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