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A barking spoilt old He dog work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Tokyo wrote:A barking spoilt old He dog Too much talk no action .............. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:Tokyo wrote:A barking spoilt old He dog Too much talk no action .............. Kim Jong Un has hit back at Trump calling him a mad dog. We are living in interesting times.
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Kusadikika wrote:Some context in this saga. Kim Jong Un is the Chairman of the Workers Party of Korea and one of the 5 members of the Politburo Standing Committee. He is the supreme leader but he has 4 other guys who form part of the highest leadership body. There is a structure here and people who talk of Kim Jong Un as if he is a lone warrior will miss the significance of his actions.
Kim Jong Un is 33 years old. The other members of the Standing Committee are ages 89, 78, 77 and 67. Kim Jong Un could very well be the grandchild of the other Politburo Committee members. The 89 year old guy, his name is Kim Yong-nam is President of the Supreme Peoples Assembly and was the Foreign affairs Minister for 15 years for both Kim Jong Un's father Kim Jong Il and his Guka Kim Il Sung. Its actually interesting that he became Foreign Affairs Minister the year Kim Jong Un was born. All the other guys were all at one time of the other in Kims father or grandfathers government.
Korea had been occupied (colonised) by the Japanese for 35 years from 1910 to 1945 and the Japanese were very brutal to the Koreans. During the Korean War it is said not a single building was left standing in North Korea by the time Americans were done bombing it. About 2 million people died.
Muarmar Gadafi was sweet talked by the Americans until he gave up development of Nuclear Weapons. They at one time made him believe that he was their friend. North Korea had also entered into a disarmament program and from 1994 to 2003 was actually complying. I even remember watching on TV demolitions of Nuclear power plants. Other countries that also gave up their programs include South Africa. In 2002 president Bush used the term Axis of evil to describe North Korea, Iran and Iraq but there was a bigger group that included Libya, Cuba and Syria that would all be treated as enemies.
The wazees of North Korea have seen all this stuff and have come to the conclusion that they do not have a friend in the world. Do not trust anybody. Build yourself up to where you can defend yourself and then you deal with the outside world as equals. Kim Jong Un is actually being very rational.
Great summary of why the little country has checkmated the BIG bad wolf. Plus South Korea stays being a good big brother: South Korea approves $8m aid package for North Korea
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I think the next big step for North Korea is the detonation of a Nuclear or Hydrogen Bomb in the Pacific like they are reporting. Ideally if they can carry the bomb on one of their ICBMs then they will have proved to everyone that they not only have the bomb but that they can deliver it. At this point the West will have to accept that North Korea is a Nuclear power and learn to live with it the way they learnt to live with China, India and Pakistan.
But because of all the uchokozi they have been subjected to North Korea will not stop there. Remember their main target is reunification so the next thing will be to instigate the South Koreans to kick out the US troops based in South Korea. With increasing public pressure the US may leave but South Korea will insist that they get Nuclear weapons as well to protect themselves. If South Korea gets nuclear weapons then Japan must also have Nuclear weapons. The technological capabilities of South Korea and Japan are such that they can develop nuclear weapons very quickly so in a matter of months of very few years they can be ahead of North Korea. South Korea and North Korea both share a common hatred of Japan from the time they had been colonised by Japan. If Japan develops a nuclear weapon the Koreans will more seriously consider reunification for strength.......
If Korea and Japan go nuclear then Iran will want one as well and if Iran gets it you can be sure Saudi Arabia will want one as well.
I do not see how we will go another 30 years without a nuclear war. So far the world has done very well, it has only been 72 years since a nuclear weapon was used in war. If we go 100 (2045) years we will have done really really well.
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Can Mozambique exist with sanctions? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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murchr wrote:
Can Mozambique exist with sanctions?
It does not necessarily mean Mussa Bin Bique has done anything wrong... But when Uncle Sam wants something from you and they arm twist you, they associate you with some perceived bad guy... We know that trick... And who else can splash that lie on the screens all over the world in a second: CNN!
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AlphDoti wrote:murchr wrote:
Can Mozambique exist with sanctions?
It does not necessarily mean Mussa Bin Bique has done anything wrong... But when Uncle Sam wants something from you and they arm twist you, they associate you with some perceived bad guy... We know that trick... And who else can splash that lie on the screens all over the world in a second: CNN! Mozambique has one of the world's largest reserves of Natural Gas and Coal. During the cold war America and Russia were never at war with each other directly, they never bombed each other but they were at war that was fought in different parts of the world in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. The two big powers right now are US and China. In the coming years Africa would be the perfect place to fight proxy wars and test each others strengths.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Kusadikika wrote:AlphDoti wrote:murchr wrote:
Can Mozambique exist with sanctions?
It does not necessarily mean Mussa Bin Bique has done anything wrong... But when Uncle Sam wants something from you and they arm twist you, they associate you with some perceived bad guy... We know that trick... And who else can splash that lie on the screens all over the world in a second: CNN! Mozambique has one of the world's largest reserves of Natural Gas and Coal. During the cold war America and Russia were never at war with each other directly, they never bombed each other but they were at war that was fought in different parts of the world in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. The two big powers right now are US and China. In the coming years Africa would be the perfect place to fight proxy wars and test each others strengths. Exactly @kusadikika... It is possible this bully wants a piece of flesh from the gas reserves and probable Musa Bin Bique wasn't willing... that's why they are being branded... Before killing a dog first claim it ate your chicken...
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AlphDoti wrote:Kusadikika wrote:AlphDoti wrote:murchr wrote:
Can Mozambique exist with sanctions?
It does not necessarily mean Mussa Bin Bique has done anything wrong... But when Uncle Sam wants something from you and they arm twist you, they associate you with some perceived bad guy... We know that trick... And who else can splash that lie on the screens all over the world in a second: CNN! Mozambique has one of the world's largest reserves of Natural Gas and Coal. During the cold war America and Russia were never at war with each other directly, they never bombed each other but they were at war that was fought in different parts of the world in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. The two big powers right now are US and China. In the coming years Africa would be the perfect place to fight proxy wars and test each others strengths. Exactly @kusadikika... It is possible this bully wants a piece of flesh from the gas reserves and probable Musa Bin Bique wasn't willing... that's why they are being branded... Before killing a dog first claim it ate your chicken... This is laughable! Back to North Korea. There has been reports that China ships were caught red handed supplying them with Oil even though they have been pretending otherwise. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Ngalaka wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kusadikika wrote:AlphDoti wrote:murchr wrote:
Can Mozambique exist with sanctions?
It does not necessarily mean Mussa Bin Bique has done anything wrong... But when Uncle Sam wants something from you and they arm twist you, they associate you with some perceived bad guy... We know that trick... And who else can splash that lie on the screens all over the world in a second: CNN! Mozambique has one of the world's largest reserves of Natural Gas and Coal. During the cold war America and Russia were never at war with each other directly, they never bombed each other but they were at war that was fought in different parts of the world in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. The two big powers right now are US and China. In the coming years Africa would be the perfect place to fight proxy wars and test each others strengths. Exactly @kusadikika... It is possible this bully wants a piece of flesh from the gas reserves and probable Musa Bin Bique wasn't willing... that's why they are being branded... Before killing a dog first claim it ate your chicken... This is laughable! Back to North Korea. There has been reports that China ships were caught red handed supplying them with Oil even though they have been pretending otherwise. @ngalaka, the last laugh will be on you... And you don't get it, do you? Check here when I told you Chïnä does not give a hoot. Chïnä is not bending their knees to the bully, Ù.Š... Rüssïä too is not bending their knees to Ù.Š... They will supply the oil to whoever they feel like... If anyone insists on intimidattion, then the world will head into WWÌÌÌ...
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masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Now, what does this boy want? This last missile literary landed on Japan's waters. Why is this mad man threatening his fellow mad brother, Trump? I tend to be wrong on these things but I hope I am right on this one Quote:Barking Dogs Never Bite. Barking Dogs Never Bite The fellow is looking for Legitimacy - a seat on the table, recognition ... Kinda like Turkey using Syrians to arm twist the EU. It's the age of Real Politik! If I am wrong... Oh well... I think I was right Did the winter games, Met Xi Jinping May meet Trump... Think about it - how many times this week/month have you heard of North Korea? North Korea is coming from the shadows. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Now, what does this boy want? This last missile literary landed on Japan's waters. Why is this mad man threatening his fellow mad brother, Trump? I tend to be wrong on these things but I hope I am right on this one Quote:Barking Dogs Never Bite. Barking Dogs Never Bite The fellow is looking for Legitimacy - a seat on the table, recognition ... Kinda like Turkey using Syrians to arm twist the EU. It's the age of Real Politik! If I am wrong... Oh well... I think I was right Did the winter games, Met Xi Jinping May meet Trump... Think about it - how many times this week/month have you heard of North Korea? North Korea is coming from the shadows. What are you saying bro... ebu substantiate kidogo...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Now, what does this boy want? This last missile literary landed on Japan's waters. Why is this mad man threatening his fellow mad brother, Trump? I tend to be wrong on these things but I hope I am right on this one Quote:Barking Dogs Never Bite. Barking Dogs Never Bite The fellow is looking for Legitimacy - a seat on the table, recognition ... Kinda like Turkey using Syrians to arm twist the EU. It's the age of Real Politik! If I am wrong... Oh well... I think I was right Did the winter games, Met Xi Jinping May meet Trump... Think about it - how many times this week/month have you heard of North Korea? North Korea is coming from the shadows. What are you saying bro... ebu substantiate kidogo... that this is playing out exactly as he wanted it to play out! He just wants Legitimacy - a seat on the table, recognition! he knows how to arm twist the world into getting it! This month Moon Jae-in next month? Shinzō Abe? Trump? by end of this year North Korea will be open for business! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Now, what does this boy want? This last missile literary landed on Japan's waters. Why is this mad man threatening his fellow mad brother, Trump? I tend to be wrong on these things but I hope I am right on this one Quote:Barking Dogs Never Bite. Barking Dogs Never Bite The fellow is looking for Legitimacy - a seat on the table, recognition ... Kinda like Turkey using Syrians to arm twist the EU. It's the age of Real Politik! If I am wrong... Oh well... I think I was right Did the winter games, Met Xi Jinping May meet Trump... Think about it - how many times this week/month have you heard of North Korea? North Korea is coming from the shadows. What are you saying bro... ebu substantiate kidogo... that this is playing out exactly as he wanted it to play out! He just wants Legitimacy - a seat on the table, recognition! he knows how to arm twist the world into getting it! This month Moon Jae-in next month? Shinzō Abe? Trump? by end of this year North Korea will be open for business! This is a good thing... everyone wants peace in the world. And no peace is achieved without balance of power. Also I said before that, Trump win was a good thing. Everybody needed the break... The temporary stand-off postponed the imminent WWÌÌÌ. But as things look, this war is coming... So in the meantime cheers on buddies! NOTE: I have to repeat that I'm not saying I support/supported Trump! No! He is a school boy president!
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:Now, what does this boy want? This last missile literary landed on Japan's waters. Why is this mad man threatening his fellow mad brother, Trump? I tend to be wrong on these things but I hope I am right on this one Quote:Barking Dogs Never Bite. Barking Dogs Never Bite The fellow is looking for Legitimacy - a seat on the table, recognition ... Kinda like Turkey using Syrians to arm twist the EU. It's the age of Real Politik! If I am wrong... Oh well... I think I was right Did the winter games, Met Xi Jinping May meet Trump... Think about it - how many times this week/month have you heard of North Korea? North Korea is coming from the shadows. What are you saying bro... ebu substantiate kidogo... that this is playing out exactly as he wanted it to play out! He just wants Legitimacy - a seat on the table, recognition! he knows how to arm twist the world into getting it! This month Moon Jae-in next month? Shinzō Abe? Trump? by end of this year North Korea will be open for business! I watched the whole thing from time he walked across, through the match on the red carpet to the inspection of the guard of honor to the signing of the visitors book. This is a confident man, he is a man in control. President Moon was saluting to his country's flag but Kim did not even acknowledge its existence. Even the pen to sign the visitors book was brought by his own people, he does not trust anyone. These North Koreans are political geniuses. There is no way you can get a good deal while negotiating from a position of weakness. I can bet there is no way the North is giving up those weapons...... well I take that back they can but the price will be something high like total unification with Kim as president of all of Korea. He is 36 years old so he has time on his side. His grandfather ruled for 48 years.
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