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Raila's Inauguration 12.12.2017
Angelica _ann
#501 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 9:42:32 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Grabbed land is just talk....nothing will be recovered.


Some things are obvioussmile
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Ngalaka
#502 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 9:47:23 AM
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murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hardwood wrote:









So this is the real reason why Kalonzo weptLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Shak
#503 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16:03 AM
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Miguna's home raided
kaka2za
#504 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 10:27:35 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Grabbed land is just talk....nothing will be recovered.


It will be recovered and promptly re-grabbed by Jubilee "private developers"
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Baratang
#505 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 10:29:27 AM
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Ngalaka wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hardwood wrote:









So this is the real reason why Kalonzo weptLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


YES...the thought of demolishing tsekulu is weighing heavily on him.smile
FRM2011
#506 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 10:30:26 AM
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When Anyona and Prof. Ngotho Kariuki were arrested by special branch in Dagoreti, the state had all the legal instruments to do so. The public order act, heck, even detention without trial was legal.

30 years later, trying to recreate the same scenario is an extremely frustrating and futile endeavour.

I understand the government is well aware of that. The idea is to send a message that it's not a weak government. Calls to mind the words of Margaret Thatcher. "Being powerful is like being a lady, if you have to say that you are one, then you are not "
Realtreaty
#507 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 10:53:05 AM
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Things start playing around for Raila and sentries
USA and EU to declare NASA a terror group soon
smile smile smile
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/US-and-EU-talk-on-Raila-oath-respect-of-law-Constitution/1056-4288208-kegixrz/index.html

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Hoarding the rats similar to Saddam Hussein
KulaRaha
#508 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 11:26:54 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Things start playing around for Raila and sentries
USA and EU to declare NASA a terror group soon
smile smile smile
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/US-and-EU-talk-on-Raila-oath-respect-of-law-Constitution/1056-4288208-kegixrz/index.html

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Hoarding the rats similar to Saddam Hussein


Is following court orders also respect for law?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
FRM2011
#509 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 11:33:16 AM
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I am beginning to realize this problem of "kusomewa katiba" is much bigger than i thought. After the kijiji fire in Langata last week, the governor of Nairobi "directed" the national disaster management team to commence investigations immediately. I follow Sonko on facebook. Hundreds of his supporters congratulated him for the prompt action. I have made peace with the fact the IQ of the average sonko supporter is dangerously close to retardation. But I was expecting at least one to point out, sir, don't you mean "requested".

When I see the usual suspects in a celebration dance over an order to repossess NYS land, I am left wondering through which law. There is an independent commission that does that. Its called the NLC. Corrupt as hell but we are stuck with them. Of course Farida Karoney can revoke the title deed. And then a high court order would overturn her decision. By then the supporters for whom the cosmetic 'repossession" was intended would be gazing at another red herring. Memory of a warthog.

Make no mistake, I would love to see all public land repossessed. The Ndungu report has the full list. Kibaki looked at it and it made his stomach turn. If we were to act on that report, Jubilee and KANU would be over in a matter of weeks.

Miguna has been arrested. What became of Jimi Wanjigi's drama ? Thought we found dangerous weapons ? David Ndii ??

Finally, this has been said many many times here. We are a poor, corrupt, lazy, third world country. 90% of EU and US residents had never heard of Kenya before Obama. Even now they don't care. President Trump has ushered in a new type of diplomacy. America first. Short of threatening their military base in Kenya, nobody cares what we do.
sitaki.kujulikana
#510 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 1:42:42 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

...
I have made peace with the fact the IQ of the average sonko supporter is dangerously close to retardation.
...


why do some think that IQ is the it, the all, the nirvana of life, does that mean people with low IQ's are lesser human beings, is there anything wrong with a retarded individual - huyo mungu aliyekupa hizo akili zako can also take the same away.

maybe I am venting and angry because my IQ is not that high, but heck it was worth to point that out, wacha nikasome this katiba
Lolest!
#511 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 2:05:37 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

...
I have made peace with the fact the IQ of the average sonko supporter is dangerously close to retardation.
...


why do some think that IQ is the it, the all, the nirvana of life, does that mean people with low IQ's are lesser human beings, is there anything wrong with a retarded individual - huyo mungu aliyekupa hizo akili zako can also take the same away.

maybe I am venting and angry because my IQ is not that high, but heck it was worth to point that out, wacha nikasome this katiba

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Kusadikika
#512 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 2:31:58 PM
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Is anyone else surprised at how Orengo has kept himself clear of all this drama. He is there in all the pictures but did not participate in any way, he did not sign any documents or administer any oath. Very sly cat.
hardwood
#513 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 3:20:10 PM
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Time to go for the big dog baba. Blast into his karen home and haul him to kamiti for treason.....and castrate him AGAIN.
Julie
#514 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 3:30:47 PM
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Orengo is a Galia Melon... looks rough on the outside, but ''shady'' (dubious character)
KulaRaha
#515 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 4:24:15 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Time to go for the big dog baba. Blast into his karen home and haul him to kamiti for treason.....and castrate him AGAIN.


Big talk....I'd love to see them do it!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
murchr
#516 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 4:40:04 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

I am beginning to realize this problem of "kusomewa katiba" is much bigger than i thought. After the kijiji fire in Langata last week, the governor of Nairobi "directed" the national disaster management team to commence investigations immediately. I follow Sonko on facebook. Hundreds of his supporters congratulated him for the prompt action. I have made peace with the fact the IQ of the average sonko supporter is dangerously close to retardation. But I was expecting at least one to point out, sir, don't you mean "requested".

When I see the usual suspects in a celebration dance over an order to repossess NYS land, I am left wondering through which law. There is an independent commission that does that. Its called the NLC. Corrupt as hell but we are stuck with them. Of course Farida Karoney can revoke the title deed. And then a high court order would overturn her decision. By then the supporters for whom the cosmetic 'repossession" was intended would be gazing at another red herring. Memory of a warthog.

Make no mistake, I would love to see all public land repossessed. The Ndungu report has the full list. Kibaki looked at it and it made his stomach turn. If we were to act on that report, Jubilee and KANU would be over in a matter of weeks.

Miguna has been arrested. What became of Jimi Wanjigi's drama ? Thought we found dangerous weapons ? David Ndii ??

Finally, this has been said many many times here. We are a poor, corrupt, lazy, third world country. 90% of EU and US residents had never heard of Kenya before Obama. Even now they don't care. President Trump has ushered in a new type of diplomacy. America first. Short of threatening their military base in Kenya, nobody cares what we do.



Utter nonsense, when you are heading some department you DIRECT not REQUEST. He can request the National Police because they fall under Uhuru. Cut Sonko some slack.

He is soooo much better than that PHD holder who was running the City in the last 5years. Was he requesting his staff to do their job? - Don't even care to answer
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Lolest!
#517 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 6:11:58 PM
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murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I am beginning to realize this problem of "kusomewa katiba" is much bigger than i thought. After the kijiji fire in Langata last week, the governor of Nairobi "directed" the national disaster management team to commence investigations immediately. I follow Sonko on facebook. Hundreds of his supporters congratulated him for the prompt action. I have made peace with the fact the IQ of the average sonko supporter is dangerously close to retardation. But I was expecting at least one to point out, sir, don't you mean "requested".

When I see the usual suspects in a celebration dance over an order to repossess NYS land, I am left wondering through which law. There is an independent commission that does that. Its called the NLC. Corrupt as hell but we are stuck with them. Of course Farida Karoney can revoke the title deed. And then a high court order would overturn her decision. By then the supporters for whom the cosmetic 'repossession" was intended would be gazing at another red herring. Memory of a warthog.

Make no mistake, I would love to see all public land repossessed. The Ndungu report has the full list. Kibaki looked at it and it made his stomach turn. If we were to act on that report, Jubilee and KANU would be over in a matter of weeks.

Miguna has been arrested. What became of Jimi Wanjigi's drama ? Thought we found dangerous weapons ? David Ndii ??

Finally, this has been said many many times here. We are a poor, corrupt, lazy, third world country. 90% of EU and US residents had never heard of Kenya before Obama. Even now they don't care. President Trump has ushered in a new type of diplomacy. America first. Short of threatening their military base in Kenya, nobody cares what we do.



Utter nonsense, when you are heading some department you DIRECT not REQUEST. He can request the National Police because they fall under Uhuru. Cut Sonko some slack.

He is soooo much better than that PHD holder who was running the City in the last 5years. Was he requesting his staff to do their job? - Don't even care to answer

NATIONAL Disaster Mgmt
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
FRM2011
#518 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 8:07:51 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I am beginning to realize this problem of "kusomewa katiba" is much bigger than i thought. After the kijiji fire in Langata last week, the governor of Nairobi "directed" the national disaster management team to commence investigations immediately. I follow Sonko on facebook. Hundreds of his supporters congratulated him for the prompt action. I have made peace with the fact the IQ of the average sonko supporter is dangerously close to retardation. But I was expecting at least one to point out, sir, don't you mean "requested".

When I see the usual suspects in a celebration dance over an order to repossess NYS land, I am left wondering through which law. There is an independent commission that does that. Its called the NLC. Corrupt as hell but we are stuck with them. Of course Farida Karoney can revoke the title deed. And then a high court order would overturn her decision. By then the supporters for whom the cosmetic 'repossession" was intended would be gazing at another red herring. Memory of a warthog.

Make no mistake, I would love to see all public land repossessed. The Ndungu report has the full list. Kibaki looked at it and it made his stomach turn. If we were to act on that report, Jubilee and KANU would be over in a matter of weeks.

Miguna has been arrested. What became of Jimi Wanjigi's drama ? Thought we found dangerous weapons ? David Ndii ??

Finally, this has been said many many times here. We are a poor, corrupt, lazy, third world country. 90% of EU and US residents had never heard of Kenya before Obama. Even now they don't care. President Trump has ushered in a new type of diplomacy. America first. Short of threatening their military base in Kenya, nobody cares what we do.



Utter nonsense, when you are heading some department you DIRECT not REQUEST. He can request the National Police because they fall under Uhuru. Cut Sonko some slack.

He is soooo much better than that PHD holder who was running the City in the last 5years. Was he requesting his staff to do their job? - Don't even care to answer

NATIONAL Disaster Mgmt


Forgive him. He wouldn't notice that. Nowadays people read to respond not to understand.
harrydre
#519 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 8:10:17 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I am beginning to realize this problem of "kusomewa katiba" is much bigger than i thought. After the kijiji fire in Langata last week, the governor of Nairobi "directed" the national disaster management team to commence investigations immediately. I follow Sonko on facebook. Hundreds of his supporters congratulated him for the prompt action. I have made peace with the fact the IQ of the average sonko supporter is dangerously close to retardation. But I was expecting at least one to point out, sir, don't you mean "requested".

When I see the usual suspects in a celebration dance over an order to repossess NYS land, I am left wondering through which law. There is an independent commission that does that. Its called the NLC. Corrupt as hell but we are stuck with them. Of course Farida Karoney can revoke the title deed. And then a high court order would overturn her decision. By then the supporters for whom the cosmetic 'repossession" was intended would be gazing at another red herring. Memory of a warthog.

Make no mistake, I would love to see all public land repossessed. The Ndungu report has the full list. Kibaki looked at it and it made his stomach turn. If we were to act on that report, Jubilee and KANU would be over in a matter of weeks.

Miguna has been arrested. What became of Jimi Wanjigi's drama ? Thought we found dangerous weapons ? David Ndii ??

Finally, this has been said many many times here. We are a poor, corrupt, lazy, third world country. 90% of EU and US residents had never heard of Kenya before Obama. Even now they don't care. President Trump has ushered in a new type of diplomacy. America first. Short of threatening their military base in Kenya, nobody cares what we do.



Utter nonsense, when you are heading some department you DIRECT not REQUEST. He can request the National Police because they fall under Uhuru. Cut Sonko some slack.

He is soooo much better than that PHD holder who was running the City in the last 5years. Was he requesting his staff to do their job? - Don't even care to answer

NATIONAL Disaster Mgmt


Forgive him. He wouldn't notice that. Nowadays people read to respond not to understand.


So now you talk of laws. Tell us what law baba took his oath on. Let's see who has real effective instruments of power.
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FRM2011
#520 Posted : Friday, February 02, 2018 8:25:54 PM
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harrydre wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

I am beginning to realize this problem of "kusomewa katiba" is much bigger than i thought. After the kijiji fire in Langata last week, the governor of Nairobi "directed" the national disaster management team to commence investigations immediately. I follow Sonko on facebook. Hundreds of his supporters congratulated him for the prompt action. I have made peace with the fact the IQ of the average sonko supporter is dangerously close to retardation. But I was expecting at least one to point out, sir, don't you mean "requested".




Utter nonsense, when you are heading some department you DIRECT not REQUEST. He can request the National Police because they fall under Uhuru. Cut Sonko some slack.

He is soooo much better than that PHD holder who was running the City in the last 5years. Was he requesting his staff to do their job? - Don't even care to answer

NATIONAL Disaster Mgmt


Forgive him. He wouldn't notice that. Nowadays people read to respond not to understand.


So now you talk of laws. Tell us what law baba took his oath on. Let's see who has real effective instruments of power.


The law guiding the process of taking over the instruments of power is quite elaborate. It was followed to the letter to swear in Uhuru.

Baba's oath has no legal backing. I called it a comedy. Most kenyans including those at Uhuru park understood that. The only people who are taking it seriously are Jubilee supporters. And the government. Makes one seriously doubt Githu Muigai's legal mind.

But lacking legal backing is not the same as being a punishable offence.

Let me give an analogy here. Suppose you and @hardwood started living together. Stay with me please. Your new union has no legal backing and it would not qualify to be called a marriage under Kenyan law. But nobody can arrest you for committing a crime. The crime under the penal code is having s#x against the order of nature. Impossible to prove in court.

Similarly, Baba's oath at Uhuru park meant zilch in law. If the supporters had matched to statehouse carrying weapons, that is when we reach the criminal threshold.
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