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alma wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:Let these born town guys like Alma, Newfarer and Faa discourage prospective farmers. These are the people who would rather bear the flag 'Am employed' while earning peanuts while a farmer who they despise so much is making 1 ten times their income. Tea farming, dairy farming, horticulture farming, chicken farming and wheat growing has huge potential than these TSC or JSC jobs!! As the fool you are looking for advise on loving a woman you go ahead putting words in our mouths. Read my friend. Learning to read is a virtue. I shall not explain. I'm hoping that somewhere in between your stupidity you can understand. He who argues with a fool risks being taken for an idiot. I wont argue with you anymore, the field is yours, continue exposing yourself now. #I was not here# Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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oi If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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sad state of affairsIf Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178
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Whats the sad state of affairs?
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/30/2010 Posts: 241
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Swenani wrote:
Who has the time to go through those applications?
I wish all the applicants good luck
in my opinion it doesn't portray unemployment, government offices have a lot allowances so majority are seeking employment elsewhere plus job security. ukiona choo kwa ndoto usiingie, ni mtego!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178
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luxel wrote:They are job applications. We have more jobless people than criminals. Why have you assumed that everyone who applied is jobless 
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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willin2learn wrote:Whats the sad state of affairs? Should guys with masters be interning as cashiers,shop assistants and in bakeries or they should be interning in management positions? Quote:The interns will be deployed across Tuskys’ 54 branches, mainly as cashiers and general workers (shop assistants) and in back office operations and the fresh foods department (bakery and deli). If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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conos wrote:Swenani wrote:
Who has the time to go through those applications?
I wish all the applicants good luck
in my opinion it doesn't portray unemployment, government offices have a lot allowances so majority are seeking employment elsewhere plus job security. Whichever way you look at it,it's unemployment....Underemployment is caused by unemployment If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Swenani wrote:willin2learn wrote:Whats the sad state of affairs? Should guys with masters be interning as cashiers,shop assistants and in bakeries or they should be interning in management positions? Quote:The interns will be deployed across Tuskys’ 54 branches, mainly as cashiers and general workers (shop assistants) and in back office operations and the fresh foods department (bakery and deli). The entry requirement for a masters degree should include 1 or 2 or 3 years of work experience. Because, what problem solving are they doing if they havent been exposed to the work environment? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Cocacola scaling down the Nairobi office by moving operations to SA and Nigeria If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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That Edward chap is so useless, who said guys with PhD's only need to teach He should be out there offering services with daily rates of above 100K for a 7hr work day(but actual work is less than 3 hrs)....useless chap No wonder he thinks along this lines. Quote:Now he says that any investment you make in education beyond a baccalaureate or bachelor’s degree is virtually a waste of resources, whose return is uncertain what an idiot? Ofcourse experience pays but Education pays much higher Quote:Edward argues that if the country needs higher education graduates to do research, improve productivity and help the economy grow, then it must pay for them as it pays for any other investment. Who told him the only profession as a phd holder he can be engaged in is teaching Quote:Edward argues that if the country needs higher education graduates to do research, improve productivity and help the economy grow, then it must pay for them as it pays for any other investment. I can't believe Ndemo wrote this piece without thinking through If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Civil serviceQuote:The service had an aging workforce, with 37 per cent of officers being 50 years and above as at June 30, 2017, compared to 35 per cent in the same period in 2015/16 financial year,” the PSC, chaired by Prof Margaret Kobia said. Quote:Majority of employees in management positions (Job Group P and above) are over 46 years,” PSC said earlier.
Only 19 per cent of the civil servants were aged 19-35years in the year to June 2016. Another 13.9 per cent are aged 36-40 years while 14 per cent of them are between 41 and 45 years. KwaleQuote:Kwale County is staring at a crisis as job seekers outnumber available positions by far.
This is after the county public service board recently advertised 40 vacancies for county askaris and received over 1,000 applications. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Swenani wrote:Civil serviceQuote:The service had an aging workforce, with 37 per cent of officers being 50 years and above as at June 30, 2017, compared to 35 per cent in the same period in 2015/16 financial year,” the PSC, chaired by Prof Margaret Kobia said. Quote:Majority of employees in management positions (Job Group P and above) are over 46 years,” PSC said earlier.
Only 19 per cent of the civil servants were aged 19-35years in the year to June 2016. Another 13.9 per cent are aged 36-40 years while 14 per cent of them are between 41 and 45 years. KwaleQuote:Kwale County is staring at a crisis as job seekers outnumber available positions by far.
This is after the county public service board recently advertised 40 vacancies for county askaris and received over 1,000 applications. The crisis is most people want to be employed by govt. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:[quote=Swenani] Civil serviceQuote:The service had an aging workforce, with 37 per cent of officers being 50 years and above as at June 30, 2017, compared to 35 per cent in the same period in 2015/16 financial year,” the PSC, chaired by Prof Margaret Kobia said. Quote:Majority of employees in management positions (Job Group P and above) are over 46 years,” PSC said earlier.
Only 19 per cent of the civil servants were aged 19-35years in the year to June 2016. Another 13.9 per cent are aged 36-40 years while 14 per cent of them are between 41 and 45 years. KwaleQuote:Kwale County is staring at a crisis as job seekers outnumber available positions by far.
This is after the county public service board recently advertised 40 vacancies for county askaris and received over 1,000 applications. The crisis is most people want to be employed by govt. [/quote] There would be a crisis if governments don't employ people. One of the role of government is to employ people from all corners and initiate projects there to create a good circulation of money. So, when you see those white elephants of bridges etc and useless bail outs of "unrespectable" factories, it's very intentional for getting monies to those areas to avert a crisis.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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2012 wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:Civil serviceQuote:The service had an aging workforce, with 37 per cent of officers being 50 years and above as at June 30, 2017, compared to 35 per cent in the same period in 2015/16 financial year,” the PSC, chaired by Prof Margaret Kobia said. Quote:Majority of employees in management positions (Job Group P and above) are over 46 years,” PSC said earlier.
Only 19 per cent of the civil servants were aged 19-35years in the year to June 2016. Another 13.9 per cent are aged 36-40 years while 14 per cent of them are between 41 and 45 years. KwaleQuote:Kwale County is staring at a crisis as job seekers outnumber available positions by far.
This is after the county public service board recently advertised 40 vacancies for county askaris and received over 1,000 applications. The crisis is most people want to be employed by govt. [ There would be a crisis if governments don't employ people. One of the role of government is to employ people from all corners and initiate projects there to create a good circulation of money. So, when you see those white elephants of bridges etc and useless bail outs of "unrespectable" factories, it's very intentional for getting monies to those areas to avert a crisis. That was a very simple statement, i don't know why it has changanyishad you. I also see it as more of a crisis when citizens think govt exists to employ them in projects labelled as white elephants so that they can circulate money. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:2012 wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:Civil serviceQuote:The service had an aging workforce, with 37 per cent of officers being 50 years and above as at June 30, 2017, compared to 35 per cent in the same period in 2015/16 financial year,” the PSC, chaired by Prof Margaret Kobia said. Quote:Majority of employees in management positions (Job Group P and above) are over 46 years,” PSC said earlier.
Only 19 per cent of the civil servants were aged 19-35years in the year to June 2016. Another 13.9 per cent are aged 36-40 years while 14 per cent of them are between 41 and 45 years. KwaleQuote:Kwale County is staring at a crisis as job seekers outnumber available positions by far.
This is after the county public service board recently advertised 40 vacancies for county askaris and received over 1,000 applications. The crisis is most people want to be employed by govt. [ There would be a crisis if governments don't employ people. One of the role of government is to employ people from all corners and initiate projects there to create a good circulation of money. So, when you see those white elephants of bridges etc and useless bail outs of "unrespectable" factories, it's very intentional for getting monies to those areas to avert a crisis. That was a very simple statement, i don't know why it has changanyishad you. I also see it as more of a crisis when citizens think govt exists to employ them in projects labelled as white elephants so that they can circulate money. My friend this happens with every government in the world. Some people and communities would never get jobs and money circulating in their areas. I can bet you that the biggest employer in North Eastern is the government. Government is supposed to come up with projects and that's why I don't understand how Jubilee is unable to create 500k indirect jobs yet the ministries return almost a trillion of unused money back to the exchequer every year. Think about it, for example, NTSA has returned all those wannabe police men back to the office, what do you think they do there? If it was a private business they would have gone home but gorernment cannot fire so they are white elephants consuming tax payers money for zero service.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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2012 wrote:murchr wrote:2012 wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:Civil serviceQuote:The service had an aging workforce, with 37 per cent of officers being 50 years and above as at June 30, 2017, compared to 35 per cent in the same period in 2015/16 financial year,” the PSC, chaired by Prof Margaret Kobia said. Quote:Majority of employees in management positions (Job Group P and above) are over 46 years,” PSC said earlier.
Only 19 per cent of the civil servants were aged 19-35years in the year to June 2016. Another 13.9 per cent are aged 36-40 years while 14 per cent of them are between 41 and 45 years. KwaleQuote:Kwale County is staring at a crisis as job seekers outnumber available positions by far.
This is after the county public service board recently advertised 40 vacancies for county askaris and received over 1,000 applications. The crisis is most people want to be employed by govt. [ There would be a crisis if governments don't employ people. One of the role of government is to employ people from all corners and initiate projects there to create a good circulation of money. So, when you see those white elephants of bridges etc and useless bail outs of "unrespectable" factories, it's very intentional for getting monies to those areas to avert a crisis. That was a very simple statement, i don't know why it has changanyishad you. I also see it as more of a crisis when citizens think govt exists to employ them in projects labelled as white elephants so that they can circulate money. My friend this happens with every government in the world. Some people and communities would never get jobs and money circulating in their areas. I can bet you that the biggest employer in North Eastern is the government. Government is supposed to come up with projects and that's why I don't understand how Jubilee is unable to create 500k indirect jobs yet the ministries return almost a trillion of unused money back to the exchequer every year. Think about it, for example, NTSA has returned all those wannabe police men back to the office, what do you think they do there? If it was a private business they would have gone home but gorernment cannot fire so they are white elephants consuming tax payers money for zero service. You still dont gerrit i see. I am not saying govt should not spend money, rather it shouldn't throw money to nonsense projects - which is what white elephants are. Govt should spend on infrastructure but not casual labor just to provide jobs to people. EG Govt Provides funds to build a road - Road construction company employs people, buy materials and equip - People spend their salaries on other economic activities. Road is completed, good road attracts FDI(local or international) company sets up, employs more locals and the cycle goes on and on. If on the other hand govt throws money on projects that dont give back, how sustainable is it? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:2012 wrote:murchr wrote:2012 wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:Civil serviceQuote:The service had an aging workforce, with 37 per cent of officers being 50 years and above as at June 30, 2017, compared to 35 per cent in the same period in 2015/16 financial year,” the PSC, chaired by Prof Margaret Kobia said. Quote:Majority of employees in management positions (Job Group P and above) are over 46 years,” PSC said earlier.
Only 19 per cent of the civil servants were aged 19-35years in the year to June 2016. Another 13.9 per cent are aged 36-40 years while 14 per cent of them are between 41 and 45 years. KwaleQuote:Kwale County is staring at a crisis as job seekers outnumber available positions by far.
This is after the county public service board recently advertised 40 vacancies for county askaris and received over 1,000 applications. The crisis is most people want to be employed by govt. [ There would be a crisis if governments don't employ people. One of the role of government is to employ people from all corners and initiate projects there to create a good circulation of money. So, when you see those white elephants of bridges etc and useless bail outs of "unrespectable" factories, it's very intentional for getting monies to those areas to avert a crisis. That was a very simple statement, i don't know why it has changanyishad you. I also see it as more of a crisis when citizens think govt exists to employ them in projects labelled as white elephants so that they can circulate money. My friend this happens with every government in the world. Some people and communities would never get jobs and money circulating in their areas. I can bet you that the biggest employer in North Eastern is the government. Government is supposed to come up with projects and that's why I don't understand how Jubilee is unable to create 500k indirect jobs yet the ministries return almost a trillion of unused money back to the exchequer every year. Think about it, for example, NTSA has returned all those wannabe police men back to the office, what do you think they do there? If it was a private business they would have gone home but gorernment cannot fire so they are white elephants consuming tax payers money for zero service. You still dont gerrit i see. I am not saying govt should not spend money, rather it shouldn't throw money to nonsense projects - which is what white elephants are. Govt should spend on infrastructure but not casual labor just to provide jobs to people. EG Govt Provides funds to build a road - Road construction company employs people, buy materials and equip - People spend their salaries on other economic activities. Road is completed, good road attracts FDI(local or international) company sets up, employs more locals and the cycle goes on and on. If on the other hand govt throws money on projects that dont give back, how sustainable is it? I hear you completely my brotha. All I'm telling you is that some regions of this country will never have viable projects but they still need to survive and the government needs to keep them from abandoning their areas and moving to Nairobi. It's a challenge creating equality.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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2012 wrote:murchr wrote:2012 wrote:murchr wrote:2012 wrote:murchr wrote:Swenani wrote:Civil serviceQuote:The service had an aging workforce, with 37 per cent of officers being 50 years and above as at June 30, 2017, compared to 35 per cent in the same period in 2015/16 financial year,” the PSC, chaired by Prof Margaret Kobia said. Quote:Majority of employees in management positions (Job Group P and above) are over 46 years,” PSC said earlier.
Only 19 per cent of the civil servants were aged 19-35years in the year to June 2016. Another 13.9 per cent are aged 36-40 years while 14 per cent of them are between 41 and 45 years. KwaleQuote:Kwale County is staring at a crisis as job seekers outnumber available positions by far.
This is after the county public service board recently advertised 40 vacancies for county askaris and received over 1,000 applications. The crisis is most people want to be employed by govt. [ There would be a crisis if governments don't employ people. One of the role of government is to employ people from all corners and initiate projects there to create a good circulation of money. So, when you see those white elephants of bridges etc and useless bail outs of "unrespectable" factories, it's very intentional for getting monies to those areas to avert a crisis. That was a very simple statement, i don't know why it has changanyishad you. I also see it as more of a crisis when citizens think govt exists to employ them in projects labelled as white elephants so that they can circulate money. My friend this happens with every government in the world. Some people and communities would never get jobs and money circulating in their areas. I can bet you that the biggest employer in North Eastern is the government. Government is supposed to come up with projects and that's why I don't understand how Jubilee is unable to create 500k indirect jobs yet the ministries return almost a trillion of unused money back to the exchequer every year. Think about it, for example, NTSA has returned all those wannabe police men back to the office, what do you think they do there? If it was a private business they would have gone home but gorernment cannot fire so they are white elephants consuming tax payers money for zero service. You still dont gerrit i see. I am not saying govt should not spend money, rather it shouldn't throw money to nonsense projects - which is what white elephants are. Govt should spend on infrastructure but not casual labor just to provide jobs to people. EG Govt Provides funds to build a road - Road construction company employs people, buy materials and equip - People spend their salaries on other economic activities. Road is completed, good road attracts FDI(local or international) company sets up, employs more locals and the cycle goes on and on. If on the other hand govt throws money on projects that dont give back, how sustainable is it? I hear you completely my brotha. All I'm telling you is that some regions of this country will never have viable projects but they still need to survive and the government needs to keep them from abandoning their areas and moving to Nairobi. It's a challenge creating equality. The only way to do this is to increase infrastructure development so that companies can invest there. And getting the locals employed. The reason why Nairobi exists today is because of the railway, otherwise if the rail took a turn elsewhere Nai would be some stinky swamp where decomposition of animal matter was abnormally slow. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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