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masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:Intending and actually putting things in space sio mchezo!! Are you implying that they will fail? Arent you the same same people who complain that africans do nothing to contribute to human advancement especially in terms of science? Why doubt your scientists, and some even have PhDs from MIT and Oxford? I am saying 'THEY MAY FAIL' and we need to have a plan for when that happens!! I am not saying that I doubt our scientists I am just saying that It will unlikely workout first time... and that is OK as long as we have a plan to learn from that.... these things are not easy and if you are doing something for the first time and it works - it's probably not as hard as people sold it. Which scientist would send a satellite into space without a risk assessment aka answering all the "what ifs"? Iam sure they have done a thorough assessment and have crossed all the t's and dotted all the i's and that is why they decided to launch meaning chances of success are close to 100%. Otherwise they would have aborted the launch to work on any shortcomings. eh? wow... I guess they are the only ones who have ever done "risk assessments". Akina Elon Musk , NASA, Russians, Indians and even Chinese blowing their launchers must have not done their "what ifs" well... LISTEN... IT'S A COMPLEX WORLD... They have done their work - but reality is unless they are basing their work off some successful launch that has happened before (standing on the shoulders of giants) they will likely discover all the lessons learnt by the nations we have listed there. This is my question - WHAT IF IT FAILS? Do they have funding and an accommodative environment for a repeat launch... e.t.c.? ama wewe ndio utakuwa mstari wa mbele kusema... WE CAN'T DO THIS... LET'S LEAVE IT? We need to have the mindset that knows failure is an possible and figure out what to do when it occurs!! especially if you are doing something new. We don't have that culture! I once heard a conversation that went something like this - A dude called Steve Blank calls his mom and says Quote:
‘Hey, Mom, I thought I’d let you know that I just lost $35 million. There is a long pause, and she goes, ‘Oh, my God, the country we came from [the Soviet Union] is no longer there. There’s no place for us to go!
'Don't worry mum' My investors have promised me another $12 million in capital to start his next company.
The mum mumbled something in Yidish and said 'Only in America!'
He had a public, humiliating failure, and still the people who lost the money had enough confidence because it was an honest failure. A culture that knows and understand that you can make small mistakes, and you can make big mistakes–as long as they’re honest and keep you going will always beat a culture that keeps on changing football coaches after every 4 international matches. So do you want us Africans to resign ourselves into a state of hopelessness and failure, that there is nothing of importance that we can do?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:Intending and actually putting things in space sio mchezo!! Are you implying that they will fail? Arent you the same same people who complain that africans do nothing to contribute to human advancement especially in terms of science? Why doubt your scientists, and some even have PhDs from MIT and Oxford? I am saying 'THEY MAY FAIL' and we need to have a plan for when that happens!! I am not saying that I doubt our scientists I am just saying that It will unlikely workout first time... and that is OK as long as we have a plan to learn from that.... these things are not easy and if you are doing something for the first time and it works - it's probably not as hard as people sold it. Which scientist would send a satellite into space without a risk assessment aka answering all the "what ifs"? Iam sure they have done a thorough assessment and have crossed all the t's and dotted all the i's and that is why they decided to launch meaning chances of success are close to 100%. Otherwise they would have aborted the launch to work on any shortcomings. eh? wow... I guess they are the only ones who have ever done "risk assessments". Akina Elon Musk , NASA, Russians, Indians and even Chinese blowing their launchers must have not done their "what ifs" well... LISTEN... IT'S A COMPLEX WORLD... They have done their work - but reality is unless they are basing their work off some successful launch that has happened before (standing on the shoulders of giants) they will likely discover all the lessons learnt by the nations we have listed there. This is my question - WHAT IF IT FAILS? Do they have funding and an accommodative environment for a repeat launch... e.t.c.? ama wewe ndio utakuwa mstari wa mbele kusema... WE CAN'T DO THIS... LET'S LEAVE IT? We need to have the mindset that knows failure is an possible and figure out what to do when it occurs!! especially if you are doing something new. We don't have that culture! I once heard a conversation that went something like this - A dude called Steve Blank calls his mom and says Quote:
‘Hey, Mom, I thought I’d let you know that I just lost $35 million. There is a long pause, and she goes, ‘Oh, my God, the country we came from [the Soviet Union] is no longer there. There’s no place for us to go!
'Don't worry mum' My investors have promised me another $12 million in capital to start his next company.
The mum mumbled something in Yidish and said 'Only in America!'
He had a public, humiliating failure, and still the people who lost the money had enough confidence because it was an honest failure. A culture that knows and understand that you can make small mistakes, and you can make big mistakes–as long as they’re honest and keep you going will always beat a culture that keeps on changing football coaches after every 4 international matches. So do you want us Africans to resign ourselves into a state of hopelessness and failure, that there is nothing of importance that we can do? au contraire! I want africans to shoot at big things but also culture resilience and patience! I am not criticizing UoN - I am merely asking them... what happens next... after a possible failure? ama watu watarusha mikono in defeat? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:mkeiy wrote:hardwood wrote:Congrats to UoN scientists.... https://www.the-star.co....nch-into-space_c1701604
Quote:The first ever satellite made by Kenya is now complete and will be launched from the International Space Station.
The satellite was developed by engineers from the University of Nairobi.
It's development cost Sh120 million.
UoN's engineer Dr Jackson Mwangi, was involved in the satellite development. @hardwood. How do they intend to do that? But first, how do they get the satellite there? Why do they want to take their satellite to ISS in the first place? Whose rocket will they use? SpaceX,Indian,Russian? Kuuliza tu! While you were away technology moved ahead.... https://www.nasa.gov/mis...search/benefits/cubesat
Quote:Deploying Small Satellites From ISS
Traditional satellites require complex systems and often, the resources of a dedicated launch vehicle to find their way into orbit. However, with some help from the International Space Station, a new class of small satellites is changing the model for how we launch new technologies into space. CubeSats, small, less than 50-centimeter and mostly 10-centimeter (4-inch) cubic satellites, have an alternative way of being deployed. Some are deployed into orbit from the space station using a robotic arm. The satellites are transported to station in soft-sided bags by cargo ships such as Japan’s H-II Transfer Vehicle (HTV). And at an appropriate time later, the satellites are taken out from the station’s cabin, and the Japanese Experiment Module (JEM) Robotic Manipulator System (JEMRMS) aims the satellites at their planned orbits and releases them. The JEM Small Satellite Orbital Deployer, an ejecting system for small satellites, was developed by JAXA.
I have not been away. Space everyday. What you quoted did not indicate the satellite size nor how they intend to get it to ISS. By the way, your Trump is stopping NASA's ISS funding as from 2025. As I said,nilikuwa nauliza tu.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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the Star wrote:
Kenya has launched its first space satellite which will be used to observe farming trends.
It was launched from an International Space Station in Florida, United States on April 2.
The satellite was developed by the University of Nairobi in collaboration with the University of Rome.
And ofcourse we are left guessing ----- I think it was with the experiments sent to ISS by Spacex This trip  SpaceX’s Dragon spacecraft arrives at the International Space Station Wednesday. Credit: NASA/JAXA/Norishige Kanai Quote:A commercial Dragon spacecraft glacially approached the International Space Station on Wednesday, allowing a robotic arm controlled by Japanese astronaut Norishige Kanai to reach out and grapple the supply ship as it soared 250 miles over Africa, completing SpaceX’s 14th mission to the research complex, and the second by the same capsule. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:Intending and actually putting things in space sio mchezo!! Are you implying that they will fail? Arent you the same same people who complain that africans do nothing to contribute to human advancement especially in terms of science? Why doubt your scientists, and some even have PhDs from MIT and Oxford? I am saying 'THEY MAY FAIL' and we need to have a plan for when that happens!! I am not saying that I doubt our scientists I am just saying that It will unlikely workout first time... and that is OK as long as we have a plan to learn from that.... these things are not easy and if you are doing something for the first time and it works - it's probably not as hard as people sold it. Which scientist would send a satellite into space without a risk assessment aka answering all the "what ifs"? Iam sure they have done a thorough assessment and have crossed all the t's and dotted all the i's and that is why they decided to launch meaning chances of success are close to 100%. Otherwise they would have aborted the launch to work on any shortcomings. eh? wow... I guess they are the only ones who have ever done "risk assessments". Akina Elon Musk , NASA, Russians, Indians and even Chinese blowing their launchers must have not done their "what ifs" well... LISTEN... IT'S A COMPLEX WORLD... They have done their work - but reality is unless they are basing their work off some successful launch that has happened before (standing on the shoulders of giants) they will likely discover all the lessons learnt by the nations we have listed there. This is my question - WHAT IF IT FAILS? Do they have funding and an accommodative environment for a repeat launch... e.t.c.? ama wewe ndio utakuwa mstari wa mbele kusema... WE CAN'T DO THIS... LET'S LEAVE IT? We need to have the mindset that knows failure is an possible and figure out what to do when it occurs!! especially if you are doing something new. We don't have that culture! I once heard a conversation that went something like this - A dude called Steve Blank calls his mom and says Quote:
‘Hey, Mom, I thought I’d let you know that I just lost $35 million. There is a long pause, and she goes, ‘Oh, my God, the country we came from [the Soviet Union] is no longer there. There’s no place for us to go!
'Don't worry mum' My investors have promised me another $12 million in capital to start his next company.
The mum mumbled something in Yidish and said 'Only in America!'
He had a public, humiliating failure, and still the people who lost the money had enough confidence because it was an honest failure. A culture that knows and understand that you can make small mistakes, and you can make big mistakes–as long as they’re honest and keep you going will always beat a culture that keeps on changing football coaches after every 4 international matches. So do you want us Africans to resign ourselves into a state of hopelessness and failure, that there is nothing of importance that we can do? au contraire! I want africans to shoot at big things but also culture resilience and patience! I am not criticizing UoN - I am merely asking them... what happens next... after a possible failure? ama watu watarusha mikono in defeat? Did it ever arrive at destination? Did it ever communicate back? i.am.back!!!!
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harrydre wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:Intending and actually putting things in space sio mchezo!! Are you implying that they will fail? Arent you the same same people who complain that africans do nothing to contribute to human advancement especially in terms of science? Why doubt your scientists, and some even have PhDs from MIT and Oxford? I am saying 'THEY MAY FAIL' and we need to have a plan for when that happens!! I am not saying that I doubt our scientists I am just saying that It will unlikely workout first time... and that is OK as long as we have a plan to learn from that.... these things are not easy and if you are doing something for the first time and it works - it's probably not as hard as people sold it. Which scientist would send a satellite into space without a risk assessment aka answering all the "what ifs"? Iam sure they have done a thorough assessment and have crossed all the t's and dotted all the i's and that is why they decided to launch meaning chances of success are close to 100%. Otherwise they would have aborted the launch to work on any shortcomings. eh? wow... I guess they are the only ones who have ever done "risk assessments". Akina Elon Musk , NASA, Russians, Indians and even Chinese blowing their launchers must have not done their "what ifs" well... LISTEN... IT'S A COMPLEX WORLD... They have done their work - but reality is unless they are basing their work off some successful launch that has happened before (standing on the shoulders of giants) they will likely discover all the lessons learnt by the nations we have listed there. This is my question - WHAT IF IT FAILS? Do they have funding and an accommodative environment for a repeat launch... e.t.c.? ama wewe ndio utakuwa mstari wa mbele kusema... WE CAN'T DO THIS... LET'S LEAVE IT? We need to have the mindset that knows failure is an possible and figure out what to do when it occurs!! especially if you are doing something new. We don't have that culture! I once heard a conversation that went something like this - A dude called Steve Blank calls his mom and says Quote:
‘Hey, Mom, I thought I’d let you know that I just lost $35 million. There is a long pause, and she goes, ‘Oh, my God, the country we came from [the Soviet Union] is no longer there. There’s no place for us to go!
'Don't worry mum' My investors have promised me another $12 million in capital to start his next company.
The mum mumbled something in Yidish and said 'Only in America!'
He had a public, humiliating failure, and still the people who lost the money had enough confidence because it was an honest failure. A culture that knows and understand that you can make small mistakes, and you can make big mistakes–as long as they’re honest and keep you going will always beat a culture that keeps on changing football coaches after every 4 international matches. So do you want us Africans to resign ourselves into a state of hopelessness and failure, that there is nothing of importance that we can do? au contraire! I want africans to shoot at big things but also culture resilience and patience! I am not criticizing UoN - I am merely asking them... what happens next... after a possible failure? ama watu watarusha mikono in defeat? Did it ever arrive at destination? Did it ever communicate back? to quote Elon Musk - even failure is good data, it part of the learning process to eventual success. The deployment of the satellite is going to be done in May otherwise its now at ISS "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:Intending and actually putting things in space sio mchezo!! Are you implying that they will fail? Arent you the same same people who complain that africans do nothing to contribute to human advancement especially in terms of science? Why doubt your scientists, and some even have PhDs from MIT and Oxford? I am saying 'THEY MAY FAIL' and we need to have a plan for when that happens!! I am not saying that I doubt our scientists I am just saying that It will unlikely workout first time... and that is OK as long as we have a plan to learn from that.... these things are not easy and if you are doing something for the first time and it works - it's probably not as hard as people sold it. Which scientist would send a satellite into space without a risk assessment aka answering all the "what ifs"? Iam sure they have done a thorough assessment and have crossed all the t's and dotted all the i's and that is why they decided to launch meaning chances of success are close to 100%. Otherwise they would have aborted the launch to work on any shortcomings. eh? wow... I guess they are the only ones who have ever done "risk assessments". Akina Elon Musk , NASA, Russians, Indians and even Chinese blowing their launchers must have not done their "what ifs" well... LISTEN... IT'S A COMPLEX WORLD... They have done their work - but reality is unless they are basing their work off some successful launch that has happened before (standing on the shoulders of giants) they will likely discover all the lessons learnt by the nations we have listed there. This is my question - WHAT IF IT FAILS? Do they have funding and an accommodative environment for a repeat launch... e.t.c.? ama wewe ndio utakuwa mstari wa mbele kusema... WE CAN'T DO THIS... LET'S LEAVE IT? We need to have the mindset that knows failure is an possible and figure out what to do when it occurs!! especially if you are doing something new. We don't have that culture! I once heard a conversation that went something like this - A dude called Steve Blank calls his mom and says Quote:
‘Hey, Mom, I thought I’d let you know that I just lost $35 million. There is a long pause, and she goes, ‘Oh, my God, the country we came from [the Soviet Union] is no longer there. There’s no place for us to go!
'Don't worry mum' My investors have promised me another $12 million in capital to start his next company.
The mum mumbled something in Yidish and said 'Only in America!'
He had a public, humiliating failure, and still the people who lost the money had enough confidence because it was an honest failure. A culture that knows and understand that you can make small mistakes, and you can make big mistakes–as long as they’re honest and keep you going will always beat a culture that keeps on changing football coaches after every 4 international matches. So do you want us Africans to resign ourselves into a state of hopelessness and failure, that there is nothing of importance that we can do? au contraire! I want africans to shoot at big things but also culture resilience and patience! I am not criticizing UoN - I am merely asking them... what happens next... after a possible failure? ama watu watarusha mikono in defeat? Did it ever arrive at destination? Did it ever communicate back? to quote Elon Musk - even failure is good data, it part of the learning process to eventual success. The deployment of the satellite is going to be done in May otherwise its now at ISS Ok.  You are already throwing an excuse out there i.am.back!!!!
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