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Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 11:05:12 PM
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Applause Applause

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
murchr
#2 Posted : Saturday, August 05, 2017 2:28:34 AM
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Very good
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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winston
#3 Posted : Saturday, August 05, 2017 10:09:51 PM
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Whoever drafted the commentary in the financials...needs a lesson in 'saying without saying'...

how could they say blatantly that they cannot forecast financial performance due to uncertainities in supply and demand etc...really? so they dont have budget? Poor....very poor.
VituVingiSana
#4 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 10:53:39 AM
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winston wrote:
Whoever drafted the commentary in the financials...needs a lesson in 'saying without saying'...

how could they say blatantly that they cannot forecast financial performance due to uncertainities in supply and demand etc...really? so they dont have budget? Poor....very poor.

Do you want them to lie to you like KQ?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
winston
#5 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 3:08:46 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
Whoever drafted the commentary in the financials...needs a lesson in 'saying without saying'...

how could they say blatantly that they cannot forecast financial performance due to uncertainities in supply and demand etc...really? so they dont have budget? Poor....very poor.

Do you want them to lie to you like KQ?


@VVS Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...not lie. But to spin it better. If they couldnt spin it better...they could have omitted the statement altogether. It only serves to paint a picture of ''as far as the next half years performance is concerned...management is as clueless as the guy next door''
VituVingiSana
#6 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 3:50:36 PM
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winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
Whoever drafted the commentary in the financials...needs a lesson in 'saying without saying'...

how could they say blatantly that they cannot forecast financial performance due to uncertainities in supply and demand etc...really? so they dont have budget? Poor....very poor.

Do you want them to lie to you like KQ?


@VVS Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...not lie. But to spin it better. If they couldnt spin it better...they could have omitted the statement altogether. It only serves to paint a picture of ''as far as the next half years performance is concerned...management is as clueless as the guy next door''

They can't control the rain nor prices of what they sell. Why spin positive stories? Under-promise and over-deliver! Compare that to KQ & its spin master!!!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Wondergirl
#7 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 4:13:52 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Applause Applause


Eight cents, hakuna interim dividend?
winston
#8 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 4:49:45 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
Whoever drafted the commentary in the financials...needs a lesson in 'saying without saying'...

how could they say blatantly that they cannot forecast financial performance due to uncertainities in supply and demand etc...really? so they dont have budget? Poor....very poor.

Do you want them to lie to you like KQ?


@VVS Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...not lie. But to spin it better. If they couldnt spin it better...they could have omitted the statement altogether. It only serves to paint a picture of ''as far as the next half years performance is concerned...management is as clueless as the guy next door''

They can't control the rain nor prices of what they sell. Why spin positive stories? Under-promise and over-deliver! Compare that to KQ & its spin master!!!


@VVS...Question is would Williamson Tea or Limuru Tea have included such a statement...comparing like for like.
Pesa Nane
#9 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 8:11:36 PM
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Wondergirl wrote:

Eight cents, hakuna interim dividend?


Quote:
DIVIDEND
The directors do not recommend the payment of an interim dividend (2016:Nil).

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
VituVingiSana
#10 Posted : Monday, August 07, 2017 10:55:27 PM
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winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
Whoever drafted the commentary in the financials...needs a lesson in 'saying without saying'...

how could they say blatantly that they cannot forecast financial performance due to uncertainities in supply and demand etc...really? so they dont have budget? Poor....very poor.

Do you want them to lie to you like KQ?


@VVS Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...not lie. But to spin it better. If they couldnt spin it better...they could have omitted the statement altogether. It only serves to paint a picture of ''as far as the next half years performance is concerned...management is as clueless as the guy next door''

They can't control the rain nor prices of what they sell. Why spin positive stories? Under-promise and over-deliver! Compare that to KQ & its spin master!!!


@VVS...Question is would Williamson Tea or Limuru Tea have included such a statement...comparing like for like.

Have you ever read Williamson/Kapchorua's commentary?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
winston
#11 Posted : Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:51:07 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
Whoever drafted the commentary in the financials...needs a lesson in 'saying without saying'...

how could they say blatantly that they cannot forecast financial performance due to uncertainities in supply and demand etc...really? so they dont have budget? Poor....very poor.

Do you want them to lie to you like KQ?


@VVS Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...not lie. But to spin it better. If they couldnt spin it better...they could have omitted the statement altogether. It only serves to paint a picture of ''as far as the next half years performance is concerned...management is as clueless as the guy next door''

They can't control the rain nor prices of what they sell. Why spin positive stories? Under-promise and over-deliver! Compare that to KQ & its spin master!!!


@VVS...Question is would Williamson Tea or Limuru Tea have included such a statement...comparing like for like.

Have you ever read Williamson/Kapchorua's commentary?



@VVS...i havent...are they similarly crafted?
Wondergirl
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:27:39 PM
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9.86% change, Wapi watu wa exchange bar......
obiero
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 25, 2018 5:56:16 PM
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winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
winston wrote:
Whoever drafted the commentary in the financials...needs a lesson in 'saying without saying'...

how could they say blatantly that they cannot forecast financial performance due to uncertainities in supply and demand etc...really? so they dont have budget? Poor....very poor.

Do you want them to lie to you like KQ?


@VVS Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...not lie. But to spin it better. If they couldnt spin it better...they could have omitted the statement altogether. It only serves to paint a picture of ''as far as the next half years performance is concerned...management is as clueless as the guy next door''

They can't control the rain nor prices of what they sell. Why spin positive stories? Under-promise and over-deliver! Compare that to KQ & its spin master!!!


@VVS...Question is would Williamson Tea or Limuru Tea have included such a statement...comparing like for like.

Have you ever read Williamson/Kapchorua's commentary?



@VVS...i havent...are they similarly crafted?

Positive sentiments from management are key.. What that statement on the financials tells you is that the ship is going under and the captain doesn't have a clue as to why or what to do next. Brakes zimekatika kwa mteremko

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Monday, January 29, 2018 12:35:02 PM
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What's with the ban on avocado exports?
Is Kakuzi affected? [I expect they practice good management on their nucleus farms]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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