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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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In the last one month alone, i have had to call an ambulance twice. First time was because my wife became abruptly very sick and she had to be operated and second time, because my son was "gone" abruply for like two minutes
In these two cases,i called an ambulance and there were in my house betwenn 5-8 minutes.
In the case of my son, an ambulance came and within one minute the emergency doctor followed behind and on the way was also a childrens doctor. ´My son was first treated at home and only when he stabilised, did they take him to hospital
I was really touched with this action from them. My wife is doing much better and she even went back to work and my son is still in hospital but out of danger.
Yesterday night, i was asking myself pertinent questions. If this had happened in nairobi, would i still be having my loved ones by now?
Guys, we can make our country better. Let us demand services from the govt and the county gvts.Every life is important and we need to guard it jealously.Excellent medical care is not a luxury, it is a human right.
I have decided, i will one day vie for a political seat and try to play my role towards improving the livelihood of our people
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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That is why we are sh*t-hole country... Many may not like that term, but it describes the reality on the ground... Unfortunately, with the current condition, even if you became a politician, you would be entrenched in the sh*tting business and you won't do much... unfortunately... We need to change the culture then we have good leaders... REMEMBER: we get the leaders we deserve i.e. they are a reflection of ourselves!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Fullykenyan wrote:In the last one month alone, i have had to call an ambulance twice. First time was because my wife became abruptly very sick and she had to be operated and second time, because my son was "gone" abruply for like two minutes
In these two cases,i called an ambulance and there were in my house betwenn 5-8 minutes.
In the case of my son, an ambulance came and within one minute the emergency doctor followed behind and on the way was also a childrens doctor. ´My son was first treated at home and only when he stabilised, did they take him to hospital
I was really touched with this action from them. My wife is doing much better and she even went back to work and my son is still in hospital but out of danger.
Yesterday night, i was asking myself pertinent questions. If this had happened in nairobi, would i still be having my loved ones by now?
Guys, we can make our country better. Let us demand services from the govt and the county gvts.Every life is important and we need to guard it jealously.Excellent medical care is not a luxury, it is a human right.
I have decided, i will one day vie for a political seat and try to play my role towards improving the livelihood of our people
Pole sana for the rough patch you have been through If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Swenani wrote:Fullykenyan wrote:In the last one month alone, i have had to call an ambulance twice. First time was because my wife became abruptly very sick and she had to be operated and second time, because my son was "gone" abruply for like two minutes
In these two cases,i called an ambulance and there were in my house betwenn 5-8 minutes.
In the case of my son, an ambulance came and within one minute the emergency doctor followed behind and on the way was also a childrens doctor. ´My son was first treated at home and only when he stabilised, did they take him to hospital
I was really touched with this action from them. My wife is doing much better and she even went back to work and my son is still in hospital but out of danger.
Yesterday night, i was asking myself pertinent questions. If this had happened in nairobi, would i still be having my loved ones by now?
Guys, we can make our country better. Let us demand services from the govt and the county gvts.Every life is important and we need to guard it jealously.Excellent medical care is not a luxury, it is a human right.
I have decided, i will one day vie for a political seat and try to play my role towards improving the livelihood of our people
Pole sana for the rough patch you have been through Thanks bro. I appreciate it
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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AlphDoti wrote:That is why we are sh*t-hole country... Many may not like that term, but it describes the reality on the ground... Unfortunately, with the current condition, even if you became a politician, you would be entrenched in the sh*tting business and you won't do much... unfortunately... We need to change the culture then we have good leaders... REMEMBER: we get the leaders we deserve i.e. they are a reflection of ourselves! Alphadoti,i really hope that at least the next generation will be diffetent.Hapana pesa tu mbele,at the expense of the common good of mwanainchi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,634
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Fullykenyan wrote:AlphDoti wrote:That is why we are sh*t-hole country... Many may not like that term, but it describes the reality on the ground... Unfortunately, with the current condition, even if you became a politician, you would be entrenched in the sh*tting business and you won't do much... unfortunately... We need to change the culture then we have good leaders... REMEMBER: we get the leaders we deserve i.e. they are a reflection of ourselves! Alphadoti,i really hope that at least the next generation will be diffetent.Hapana pesa tu mbele,at the expense of the common good of mwanainchi It is hard to notice this, but we have had an incremental improvement in quality of leadership over time (same with other areas). I recall a time when we had leaders who could not even read. They failed often because they knew no better. Today we have educated people in positions of power. Where they fail it is not out of lack of knowledge or even competence (many have even worked in developed countries) but because the temptation to corruption is too hard to resist. This is where we need a drastic improvement in the quality of the led. I agree with you that we should demand performance from those appointed to lead or serve. We have to stop deifying our leaders or giving them a pass because they belong to our tribe or clan. Kenya is only a sh*thole country because Kenyans often behave like sheep. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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@Fullykenyan, pole I hope all goes well for you. The Kenyan problem is part leadership and part us as Kenyans. Look at how we walk on pathways or drive, do you think the Ambulance would have been at your house in the same 5-8mins time? It would probably have been stuck in traffic because no one would want to give way. The nurse/paramedic would probably not give the utmost best care because either, they dont love their job, they are not well equipped, or they dont know what to do As a people we need to have some value of life "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Just take care of your family. Trying to act saviour in Kenya is often met with a lot of resistance and politics involved. I weep for Kenya. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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essyk wrote:Just take care of your family.
Trying to act saviour in Kenya is often met with a lot of resistance and politics involved.
I weep for Kenya. Dr. Kinyanjui Nganga gives us examples of those who have sarificed for the big masses... and what they said on their death bed...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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Sadly although we are making strides, we still are overlooking very simple basics that can save lives. It's was documented a few weeks ago that although we have many ambulances in Kenya, reaching them is either difficult or impossible, no single emergency lines, no clear compensation for private ambulances and fire engines. Triage, this is non existent in most of our hospitals, you might be having a heart attack and you are told to go to the back of the line. Emergency entrances at the hospitals, no crew to receive and stabilize the emergency cases, just go through the KNH is not for the faint-hearted. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,703
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Do not be too hard on Kenya. We are where we are and in my opinion we are doing quite well. The thing people forget when they move from Kenya to western or other developed countries is that those countries have not always been as they are now. The institutions, cultures and wealth have taken decades and in some countries centuries to build. All you see is an ambulance that takes 7 minutes to get to your house. What you do not see is a well designed road and highway network, a wealthy society with laws that allow training of a skilled workforce that can survive doing one job a time, security etc. The service you enjoy is only the tip of an iceberg of cultural, political, technological advances that took a long time to build.
Anybody visiting the Western countries should first be struck at how young we are as a country. Kenya did not exist as a country or even a territory before the 1880s and then for 75 years was a colony... please note that we have been independent for a shorter time time than we were under British occupation. The constitutional debates we were having to the runup to 2010 were the kind of questions the US was having in the 1780s. You visit Universities in the US that were started in the 1700s and 1800s. These are agricultural, engineering and medical colleges and all that knowledge and workforce went to develop the places that people visit today and start abusing they mother country for being backward.
We have our problems, but we must work from where we are. Some things take time. Make sure your children are in a better place than you and you will have done your part.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Kusadikika wrote:Do not be too hard on Kenya. We are where we are and in my opinion we are doing quite well. The thing people forget when they move from Kenya to western or other developed countries is that those countries have not always been as they are now. The institutions, cultures and wealth have taken decades and in some countries centuries to build. All you see is an ambulance that takes 7 minutes to get to your house. What you do not see is a well designed road and highway network, a wealthy society with laws that allow training of a skilled workforce that can survive doing one job a time, security etc. The service you enjoy is only the tip of an iceberg of cultural, political, technological advances that took a long time to build.
Anybody visiting the Western countries should first be struck at how young we are as a country. Kenya did not exist as a country or even a territory before the 1880s and then for 75 years was a colony... please note that we have been independent for a shorter time time than we were under British occupation. The constitutional debates we were having to the runup to 2010 were the kind of questions the US was having in the 1780s. You visit Universities in the US that were started in the 1700s and 1800s. These are agricultural, engineering and medical colleges and all that knowledge and workforce went to develop the places that people visit today and start abusing they mother country for being backward.
We have our problems, but we must work from where we are. Some things take time. Make sure your children are in a better place than you and you will have done your part. This is the usual "back banner" excuse we give ourselves so as we can continue slacking. Should we go the full life cycle of our predecessors so that we can evolve? How old is Singapore? Botswana? Thanks to technology we have case studies available for us to learn, but do we want to learn? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,703
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murchr wrote:Kusadikika wrote:Do not be too hard on Kenya. We are where we are and in my opinion we are doing quite well. The thing people forget when they move from Kenya to western or other developed countries is that those countries have not always been as they are now. The institutions, cultures and wealth have taken decades and in some countries centuries to build. All you see is an ambulance that takes 7 minutes to get to your house. What you do not see is a well designed road and highway network, a wealthy society with laws that allow training of a skilled workforce that can survive doing one job a time, security etc. The service you enjoy is only the tip of an iceberg of cultural, political, technological advances that took a long time to build.
Anybody visiting the Western countries should first be struck at how young we are as a country. Kenya did not exist as a country or even a territory before the 1880s and then for 75 years was a colony... please note that we have been independent for a shorter time time than we were under British occupation. The constitutional debates we were having to the runup to 2010 were the kind of questions the US was having in the 1780s. You visit Universities in the US that were started in the 1700s and 1800s. These are agricultural, engineering and medical colleges and all that knowledge and workforce went to develop the places that people visit today and start abusing they mother country for being backward.
We have our problems, but we must work from where we are. Some things take time. Make sure your children are in a better place than you and you will have done your part. This is the usual "back banner" excuse we give ourselves so as we can continue slacking. Should we go the full life cycle of our predecessors so that we can evolve? How old is Singapore? Botswana? Thanks to technology we have case studies available for us to learn, but do we want to learn? We are who we are and we are where we are. Not all explanations are excuses. I think this hardcore desire to "develop" actually does more harm to a country than good. People are taught to hate themselves just because they do not have some material advancements. People in Kenya are not slackers, go to Marikiti or Gikomba or Burma or Kenyatta market and see. Visit Kibera and Korogocho and see people fending for themselves. Slacking is not why we are here or have what we have.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Kusadikika wrote:murchr wrote:Kusadikika wrote:Do not be too hard on Kenya. We are where we are and in my opinion we are doing quite well. The thing people forget when they move from Kenya to western or other developed countries is that those countries have not always been as they are now. The institutions, cultures and wealth have taken decades and in some countries centuries to build. All you see is an ambulance that takes 7 minutes to get to your house. What you do not see is a well designed road and highway network, a wealthy society with laws that allow training of a skilled workforce that can survive doing one job a time, security etc. The service you enjoy is only the tip of an iceberg of cultural, political, technological advances that took a long time to build.
Anybody visiting the Western countries should first be struck at how young we are as a country. Kenya did not exist as a country or even a territory before the 1880s and then for 75 years was a colony... please note that we have been independent for a shorter time time than we were under British occupation. The constitutional debates we were having to the runup to 2010 were the kind of questions the US was having in the 1780s. You visit Universities in the US that were started in the 1700s and 1800s. These are agricultural, engineering and medical colleges and all that knowledge and workforce went to develop the places that people visit today and start abusing they mother country for being backward.
We have our problems, but we must work from where we are. Some things take time. Make sure your children are in a better place than you and you will have done your part. This is the usual "back banner" excuse we give ourselves so as we can continue slacking. Should we go the full life cycle of our predecessors so that we can evolve? How old is Singapore? Botswana? Thanks to technology we have case studies available for us to learn, but do we want to learn? We are who we are and we are where we are. Not all explanations are excuses. I think this hardcore desire to "develop" actually does more harm to a country than good. People are taught to hate themselves just because they do not have some material advancements. People in Kenya are not slackers, go to Marikiti or Gikomba or Burma or Kenyatta market and see. Visit Kibera and Korogocho and see people fending for themselves. Slacking is not why we are here or have what we have. Go to govt offices - the people supposed to be implementing economic policies count how many people are not slacking "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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What i have realised in kenya, is that life has no value. This is the beginning of our woes. If life has no value, you will not value anything that sustains life, let alone making living bearable.
It is true that people in kenya are not slackers but most kenyans seek only what profits them. We forget that, if we seek, what is good for the society, the gains are more and also sustainable, than when we seek individual goals.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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murchr wrote:@Fullykenyan, pole I hope all goes well for you.
The Kenyan problem is part leadership and part us as Kenyans.
Look at how we walk on pathways or drive, do you think the Ambulance would have been at your house in the same 5-8mins time? It would probably have been stuck in traffic because no one would want to give way.
The nurse/paramedic would probably not give the utmost best care because either, they dont love their job, they are not well equipped, or they dont know what to do
As a people we need to have some value of life Thanks alot. The tests for the boy all came negative.Thank God!!. However, they want to continue having him around, so that they can monitor him at least for not less than 48 hours they said. The reaction of the paramedics, the city´s emergency doctor and the children´s doctor left me in tears. The emergency doctor, later told me, that when it comes to a kid,they dont take any chances at all. The worst mistake you can make here, is to hinder an ambulance or an emergency doctor´s car. During emergency, it is like Uhuru´s motorcade on uhuru highway. For everything, i have to only pay 10 euros for it
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/6/2009 Posts: 587
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murchr wrote:Kusadikika wrote:Do not be too hard on Kenya. We are where we are and in my opinion we are doing quite well. The thing people forget when they move from Kenya to western or other developed countries is that those countries have not always been as they are now. The institutions, cultures and wealth have taken decades and in some countries centuries to build. All you see is an ambulance that takes 7 minutes to get to your house. What you do not see is a well designed road and highway network, a wealthy society with laws that allow training of a skilled workforce that can survive doing one job a time, security etc. The service you enjoy is only the tip of an iceberg of cultural, political, technological advances that took a long time to build.
Anybody visiting the Western countries should first be struck at how young we are as a country. Kenya did not exist as a country or even a territory before the 1880s and then for 75 years was a colony... please note that we have been independent for a shorter time time than we were under British occupation. The constitutional debates we were having to the runup to 2010 were the kind of questions the US was having in the 1780s. You visit Universities in the US that were started in the 1700s and 1800s. These are agricultural, engineering and medical colleges and all that knowledge and workforce went to develop the places that people visit today and start abusing they mother country for being backward.
We have our problems, but we must work from where we are. Some things take time. Make sure your children are in a better place than you and you will have done your part. This is the usual "back banner" excuse we give ourselves so as we can continue slacking. Should we go the full life cycle of our predecessors so that we can evolve? How old is Singapore? Botswana? Thanks to technology we have case studies available for us to learn, but do we want to learn?  Botswana you say!!! Talk about something that you know very well bwana na siyo kudanganya watu!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Baratang wrote:murchr wrote:Kusadikika wrote:Do not be too hard on Kenya. We are where we are and in my opinion we are doing quite well. The thing people forget when they move from Kenya to western or other developed countries is that those countries have not always been as they are now. The institutions, cultures and wealth have taken decades and in some countries centuries to build. All you see is an ambulance that takes 7 minutes to get to your house. What you do not see is a well designed road and highway network, a wealthy society with laws that allow training of a skilled workforce that can survive doing one job a time, security etc. The service you enjoy is only the tip of an iceberg of cultural, political, technological advances that took a long time to build.
Anybody visiting the Western countries should first be struck at how young we are as a country. Kenya did not exist as a country or even a territory before the 1880s and then for 75 years was a colony... please note that we have been independent for a shorter time time than we were under British occupation. The constitutional debates we were having to the runup to 2010 were the kind of questions the US was having in the 1780s. You visit Universities in the US that were started in the 1700s and 1800s. These are agricultural, engineering and medical colleges and all that knowledge and workforce went to develop the places that people visit today and start abusing they mother country for being backward.
We have our problems, but we must work from where we are. Some things take time. Make sure your children are in a better place than you and you will have done your part. This is the usual "back banner" excuse we give ourselves so as we can continue slacking. Should we go the full life cycle of our predecessors so that we can evolve? How old is Singapore? Botswana? Thanks to technology we have case studies available for us to learn, but do we want to learn? Botswana you say!!! Talk about something that you know very well bwana na siyo kudanganya watu!! @Baratang, the GDP per capita of Bostwana is far much higher than this hole full of shit called Kenya. Look again "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Fullykenyan wrote:murchr wrote:@Fullykenyan, pole I hope all goes well for you.
The Kenyan problem is part leadership and part us as Kenyans.
Look at how we walk on pathways or drive, do you think the Ambulance would have been at your house in the same 5-8mins time? It would probably have been stuck in traffic because no one would want to give way.
The nurse/paramedic would probably not give the utmost best care because either, they dont love their job, they are not well equipped, or they dont know what to do
As a people we need to have some value of life Thanks alot. The tests for the boy all came negative.Thank God!!. However, they want to continue having him around, so that they can monitor him at least for not less than 48 hours they said. The reaction of the paramedics, the city´s emergency doctor and the children´s doctor left me in tears. The emergency doctor, later told me, that when it comes to a kid,they dont take any chances at all. The worst mistake you can make here, is to hinder an ambulance or an emergency doctor´s car. During emergency, it is like Uhuru´s motorcade on uhuru highway. For everything, i have to only pay 10 euros for it Thank God all is well. I have lived in a city where traffic paves way for a hearse taking a body either to be buried or to a morgue. We still have a long way to go in as far as. We will have to change our attitudes, but what would help most is the emergence of new cities - Tatus and all with their own management rules . "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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Kusadikika wrote:murchr wrote:Kusadikika wrote:Do not be too hard on Kenya. We are where we are and in my opinion we are doing quite well. The thing people forget when they move from Kenya to western or other developed countries is that those countries have not always been as they are now. The institutions, cultures and wealth have taken decades and in some countries centuries to build. All you see is an ambulance that takes 7 minutes to get to your house. What you do not see is a well designed road and highway network, a wealthy society with laws that allow training of a skilled workforce that can survive doing one job a time, security etc. The service you enjoy is only the tip of an iceberg of cultural, political, technological advances that took a long time to build.
Anybody visiting the Western countries should first be struck at how young we are as a country. Kenya did not exist as a country or even a territory before the 1880s and then for 75 years was a colony... please note that we have been independent for a shorter time time than we were under British occupation. The constitutional debates we were having to the runup to 2010 were the kind of questions the US was having in the 1780s. You visit Universities in the US that were started in the 1700s and 1800s. These are agricultural, engineering and medical colleges and all that knowledge and workforce went to develop the places that people visit today and start abusing they mother country for being backward.
We have our problems, but we must work from where we are. Some things take time. Make sure your children are in a better place than you and you will have done your part. This is the usual "back banner" excuse we give ourselves so as we can continue slacking. Should we go the full life cycle of our predecessors so that we can evolve? How old is Singapore? Botswana? Thanks to technology we have case studies available for us to learn, but do we want to learn? We are who we are and we are where we are. Not all explanations are excuses. I think this hardcore desire to "develop" actually does more harm to a country than good. People are taught to hate themselves just because they do not have some material advancements. People in Kenya are not slackers, go to Marikiti or Gikomba or Burma or Kenyatta market and see. Visit Kibera and Korogocho and see people fending for themselves. Slacking is not why we are here or have what we have. Our problem is greedy leadership that has permeated all sectors of our society. Why do we import mitumba anything? Why do we have such poorly designed roads? They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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