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On Greenhouse Scams: "Meeting rescheduled to January,"
MugundaMan
#1 Posted : Monday, January 15, 2018 4:09:04 PM
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Don't fall victim to these scams, bros and siste's, otherwise all your meetings will be rescheduled to Njaanuary indefinitely. Read and weep;



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My name is Francis and I am the chairman of Bethany Phase 4 Investors Committee. I called your offices earlier to book an appointment for Thursday 21st Dec 2017 at 2PM to allow the investors committee to come and register there complaint with what is happening in Bethany Phase 4.

In June 2017, this committee was appointed by the over 1000 investors in Phase 4 to represent their interests. We began by meeting Diamond Property Merchants Ltd (DPM) and AgroExchage to discuss how this project would be implemented taking the learning from Phase1, Phase2 and Phase3. The following is what was agreed on during the meeting;

The farmer contract will run for 8 months per season from the 6 months per season in Phase 1, 2 and 3. This was necessitated by the experience in the previous phases that 6 months per season is too tight for the farm manager to guarantee the returns. The investors accepted.

The guaranteed income per season will be reduced from Sh200,000 to Sh185,000 per season. This was based on the experiences of the previous phases. The farmers agreed to this as well.

We also agreed that Phase 4 will be implemented in different lots spaced between by a month to mitigate the payouts in one month. This was to protect DPM and farm manager against paying all farmers at once. This was also a learning taken from there previous phases. The different lots were to be divided as follows: 200 greenhouses in July 2017, 200 in August 2017, 400 in September 2017, 400 in October 2017. The allocation in each lot was being done on a first paying first allocated basis.

We also agreed that the farmers contract will be serialized based on when the farmer paid for the greenhouses. Based on the serial number you would be able to know which lot you are in. This was accepted.

DPM directed that all payment including the greenhouses payment was to be made directly to them. They said that this was a risk management issue. They opened an account specifically for receiving the greenhouse payment. This was done to allow for an arms length relationship from other accounts. This was accepted as well.

DPM was to disburse the funds to AgroExchange based on the lots paid for. This made sense and it was agreed on.

Even after doing all these, the project has been dogged with a number of challenges most of them arising from DPM refusing to release the funds to the Farmer manager for implementing the project.

We had a meeting with DPM and Agro Exchange at the site on 9th December 2017 and the minutes have been attached. If you review the minutes you will be able to see all the problems that have been caused by non disbursement of funds by DPM. It is our opinion that all these challenges would have been avoided had DPM delivered on their side.

Our biggest concern is that DPM has collected over Sh225M from the farmers but they have only disbursed KeS 89M to the farm manager as per the meeting date. This is concerning to us and we think that DPM has channeled our funds to other areas.

We are now calling upon COFEK to get involved and immediate on this issues. We agreed on some resolutions which until today have not been executed on by DPM.

We are now kindly requesting for a meeting with COFEK, DPM, Bethany Phase 4 Committee and Agro Exchange to discuss this matter. Thank you.

COFEK RESPONSE: When the meeting was called by Cofek on December 21, 2017 DPM responded through its' lawyer who said he was proceeding on leave the following day till January 9, 2017. The lawyer said DPM would not come to the meeting but may attend if the meeting was rescheduled to January



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#2 Posted : Monday, January 15, 2018 4:54:47 PM
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Nice site, nice idea @mugundaman
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Fyatu
#3 Posted : Monday, January 15, 2018 4:59:48 PM
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Let the lazy and gullible Kenyan "middle class" be shafted hard. They call themselves farmers....hahahaha
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popat
#4 Posted : Monday, January 15, 2018 7:57:10 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Let the lazy and gullible Kenyan "middle class" be shafted hard. They call themselves farmers....hahahaha
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holycow
#5 Posted : Monday, January 15, 2018 9:58:41 PM
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Threads on Greenhouses remind me of the thread below.

http://www.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=13192
MugundaMan
#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:30:26 PM
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holycow wrote:
Threads on Greenhouses remind me of the thread below.

http://www.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=13192


Very entertaining thread that was. Asante.
hardwood
#7 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2018 6:34:10 PM
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Angelica _ann
#8 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2018 9:16:36 PM
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[quote=hardwood]It's the biggest con game

https://www.sde.co.ke/th...r-greenhouse-investment[/quote]

Some Kenyans just like being scammed. What type of business model is this with such crazy returns. Pole kwao, let them accept & move on.
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MugundaMan
#9 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2018 9:34:13 PM
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hardwood wrote:


Dunia kuna mambo, you mean fellows are still falling for greenhouse scams in 2018? Maanchap kweli!
kayhara
#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2018 9:10:02 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Dunia kuna mambo, you mean fellows are still falling for greenhouse scams in 2018? Maanchap kweli!

There is a new one being sold in Laikipia, with promised returns on your swanky greenhouse every 6 months, the plots are 450k while I know an acre around the said area goes for no more than 500k, if you have money you are willing to burn here is your chance.
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MugundaMan
#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2018 9:56:00 AM
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kayhara wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Dunia kuna mambo, you mean fellows are still falling for greenhouse scams in 2018? Maanchap kweli!

There is a new one being sold in Laikipia, with promised returns on your swanky greenhouse every 6 months, the plots are 450k while I know an acre around the said area goes for no more than 500k, if you have money you are willing to burn here is your chance.


It is one thing to buy a slightly (or even grossly) overpriced piece of land, quite another to buy a complete pipe dream. I have in fact many times bought an overpriced piece of land (1/8ths) mostly, simply because of the package that comes with it. Yes, I could probably have gotten even 1/2 acre (or more) in the same area for the same price but the overpriced 1/8th came with middle class neighbours buying the same, due diligence already done (assuming it is a reputable company), less headaches and a future community of like minded home owners. Building there will be more profitable in the long run IMHO than building on an isolated 1/2 acre in the middle of nowhere. Most "estates" in fact started this way. Like minded people pooling together and establishing a community. Look at Membley. Who knew that scrubland would be one of the poshest areas in Kenya! And the consolation is, in the long run, overpaying a little will mean zero. It's like someone who bought in Lavington in 1994 crying that they "overpaid" for a house on one acre at 8.5m while going rate was 7 m back then. Does that 1.5m really matter now with those properties scraping 300m+? Of course not.

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